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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by 505 View Post
    No, you haven't. Your "possibility" has not been proven to have anything to do with the argument. Burden of proof is on you to make the connection, not for somebody else to prove that there isn't one.
    Sorry, it still comes down to the, claiming that a transwoman is really a man simply because they have the XY combination, and yet cannot prove their positive claim of transwomen having nothing other than the XY combination.

    So here is some backup on one of my possibilities. Mind you I still am not claiming that this is a cause yet alone the only clause of transsexualism.
    Chimera (genetics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Note the third example. If they can have partial sex organs of the opposite gender, what else develop in them that could cause them to be other than the obvious external genitals? Of course their immediate argument is that genetic anomalies don't count. I'm saying that unless you do the test to confirm or eliminate the existence of said anomaly within the transsexual, you can't claim that they don't have a genetic anomaly and are a straight (no puns intended) man or woman.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    How many babies have been conceived and born through ”artificial vaginas”?
    I can get a woman to get pregnant and bypass the vagina altogether. The vagina has nothing to do with pregnancy save as the most confident access to the uterus. But a uterus isn't the definition of a woman either, as there are women born with their reproduction organs while still having a vagina.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    Not all vaginas conceive and give birth to children.
    That is their primary biological function. It is not very honest to describe an artificial imitation thereof as functioning well, if is is not able to fulfill this function at all.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    You are factually wrong on this. I understand that in your view such a person is their original gender. An artificial heart is still a heart. An artificial hand is still an hand. An artificial vagina is still a vagina...and functions much better than most artificial hands.
    No, it's a penis cut up and moved around to look like a vagina. No doctor that I have seen calls it equivalent to the real thing. Even if it was however you're right that it wouldn't be in my eyes.

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    Bigots and narrow minded people have mutilated minds.
    That makes no sense. It is factual they cut up the gential area of the male to make something that looks like a vagina. Mutilating someone's healthy genitals to look like a vagina is an extreme case of genital mutilation and absolutely barbaric behaviour.

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That makes no sense. It is factual they cut up the gential area of the male to make something that looks like a vagina. Mutilating someone's healthy genitals to look like a vagina is an extreme case of genital mutilation and absolutely barbaric behaviour.
    Indeed.

    It is not much different than a practice which occurs in some backward African societies, which, when discussed in any civilized setting, is harshly condemned for the brutal savagery that it is.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    That is their primary biological function. It is not very honest to describe an artificial imitation thereof as functioning well, if is is not able to fulfill this function at all.
    You're confusing the vagina and the uterus. A woman can get pregnant with a uterus and not a vagina, but the inverse cannot hold true.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, it's a penis cut up and moved around to look like a vagina. No doctor that I have seen calls it equivalent to the real thing. Even if it was however you're right that it wouldn't be in my eyes.
    An artificial vagina is as equivalent to a real vagina as an artificial heart or hand or whatever is to the real thing. John Bobbitt has an artificial penis. There is no question that the artificial is not the same as the real thing. Are you saying that Mr. Bobbitt has no penis at all? Are you claiming that our solders with prosthetics have no arms/legs/hand/whatever at all? Is it your position that the person with the artificial heart has no heart at all? None of these artificial items work as well as the real things, not the heart, the vagina, the hand, or the penis. But they work and they serve the function of that which they are modeled after.
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

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    Henrin, you never cease to amaze me with your bigotry.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Sorry, it still comes down to the, claiming that a transwoman is really a man simply because they have the XY combination, and yet cannot prove their positive claim of transwomen having nothing other than the XY combination.
    And since nobody in this thread has access to the needed people and equipment to conduct such testing, perhaps it's best to just drop it, eh?
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