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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Yes. This is another one of those culture fights that opponents are certain to lose. The fact that we're even having this discussion is a sign of how much ground cultural conservatism has lost over the past two decades.
    Actually you are right in this instance. Because the environment will continue to pose ever increasing opposition to what you have termed "cultural conservatism" it will continue to lose ground. Therefore as a practical matter, laws need to be implemented that reflect the reality of the existential conditions that individuals must presently confront.

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Bold is not the right word, stupid is more like it. Gang rape raises questions about bystanders' role - CNN.com
    Considering the place and how very rare such occurrences are, I'll stick my original assessment.
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    No I am not. They are the same problem. The main problem is that there is simply not the type of leadership in society today to implement what you would like to put forward. It requires a very deep level of understanding and detachment from mundane influence to do such. People who don't have these types of qualifications will simply get people hurt. Therefore it is better to have laws that can deal with the situation at hand in a practical manner.

    That is to be quite frank.
    There's nothing practical about self-identification as a means to determine legal gender, race, or anything. They are better off not asking at all.
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    There's nothing practical about self-identification as a means to determine legal gender, race, or anything. They are better off not asking at all.
    No there are practical issues such as those related to marriage.

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    No there are practical issues such as those related to marriage.
    You'd prefer to have an operation that can invalidate a marriage? There's nothing practical about that.
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    You'd prefer to have an operation that can invalidate a marriage? There's nothing practical about that.
    Actually, this isn't completely true. There hasn't been a case where someone was legally married then got a sex change operation that had their marriage invalidated because it was a legal marriage when entered into. Plus, this shouldn't be an issue (and part of the reason should be for this very fact) in a few months.
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    You'd prefer to have an operation that can invalidate a marriage? There's nothing practical about that.
    There is nothing practical about having marriage laws that discriminate against transwomen.

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Actually, this isn't completely true. There hasn't been a case where someone was legally married then got a sex change operation that had their marriage invalidated because it was a legal marriage when entered into. Plus, this shouldn't be an issue (and part of the reason should be for this very fact) in a few months.
    If the Supreme Court doesn't rule same-sex marriage a constitutional right then it's only a matter of time.

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    There is nothing practical about having marriage laws that discriminate against transwomen.
    Where do you get that from? A law against same-sex marriage doesn't discriminate against transwomen any more than it discriminates against biological women.
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    Where do you get that from? A law against same-sex marriage doesn't discriminate against transwomen any more than it discriminates against biological women.
    Apparently you have no idea of the nature of the discussion that has taken place in this thread. If you did, you would realize the absurd nature of your comment.

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Considering the place and how very rare such occurrences are, I'll stick my original assessment.
    There really isnt a safe place anywhere on this planet. But there is the illusion of safety. And to those raped statistics are meaningless. Hell I remember a boy that was killed in a restroom in a mall where it was a good neighborhood nothing like that ever happens. A man/monster cut off the boys testicles while the mother stood outside the door waiting. The boy bled to death before she knew something was wrong.

    My point is that there is no reason to endanger ones self over peeing.

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