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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Each of the following posts shows that you consider it to be a simple black and white issue. A person that has XY chromosomes is male. A person that has XX chromosomes is female. Period. There is no other possibility except through genetic diseases. Nor was my post aimed at letting you know that genetic diseases do or don't exist. That would be a silly thing to do considering. My posts are there to inform you that it is not such a black and white issue.

    Now, as I've already admitted what is or isn't a defect is of course entirely subjective with the exception of those that cause harm, such as cancer. Whether it is or not is of course up to you. I'm not arguing that side of things. I'm just mainly here to show that it isn't near as simple as so many seem to think and have implied through their posts. However I would point out that by definition a "defect" is normally something that is considered undesirable and harmful to the whole of someone/something. Now transgenderism may be considered undesirable by people, but it is not harmful to that someone. Same essentially applies to genetic diseases btw. As such categorizing transgenders as "defects" or "genetic diseases" isn't actually all that accurate.
    Sigh. I have admitted the existence of XY women and XX men many times over in these threads and in this thread here talked of XY women and even said what it was caused by.

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Sigh. I have admitted the existence of XY women and XX men many times over in these threads and in this thread here talked of XY women and even said what it was caused by.
    Yes you have. So why do you seem to be against the government treating a transgender woman as a woman? Because you think its a defect/genetic disease? Some other reason? Have I missed something that you posted or perhaps misread something that you wrote due to either my lack of reading comprehension of your type of writing or due to your lack of expressing yourself fully?

    You started out asking me a question about specific names of genes that I was going by. When I replied to that question you thought it odd that I didn't know. So I expanded upon that and my reasoning basing my post upon two things, answering your direct question to me and addressing what I saw from your posts as the implication that it was a black and white issue. Perhaps I didn't need to address that last part but I felt the need to. Lack of understanding a perspective does that to me some times.
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Does this mean at crowded sports events when there are not enough toilets for women, they can use the urinals of the mens restrooms?


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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    If the individual has gone through the procedure and hormone treatment then sure. In other words If you have the mindset of a female the genitalia of a female as well as the hormones of a female then you are indeed a female.
    Science doesn't have the ability to give someone born male the genitalia of a female. The best they can do is copy the cosmetic appearance of that genetalia. This is like putting the body of a sports car on the chassis of a compact car, it doesn't change the performance.


    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    Does this mean at crowded sports events when there are not enough toilets for women, they can use the urinals of the mens restrooms?
    Men don't mind having women in the men's room, those rules are only to protect the fairer sex.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    Science doesn't have the ability to give someone born male the genitalia of a female. The best they can do is copy the cosmetic appearance of that genetalia. This is like putting the body of a sports car on the chassis of a compact car, it doesn't change the performance.




    Men don't mind having women in the men's room, those rules are only to protect the fairer sex.


    The genitals of males and females are very similar in structure and contractile tissue. In the womb all fetuses are similar and the major difference is gonads as opposed to ovaries but as said before are similar.
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    wait, saying I don't care about other people and thier beliefs is me being prejudiced? I would think that's the exact opposite. /facepalm

    I think she took it as you placing your beliefs above theirs; that yours are more valid and therefore regardless of what other people believe, you want to enfoce your beliefs.

    That does seem to be what I remember from your posts, but I could be remembering incorrectly.

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    Does this mean at crowded sports events when there are not enough toilets for women, they can use the urinals of the mens restrooms?
    Why couldn't they use the stalls in the men's restrooms?
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    Oh it started out ridiculous.
    That tells me quite a bit right there.

    I'll be straight up with you. What you would like to do is nice. But the problem is that while sometimes sentiments may be nice, they don't conform to reality very well in certain instances.

    It's like this. Sid Gillman derived pro offenses, such as the Air Coryell offenses are nice and elegant. However, they require receivers like Randy Moss and quarterbacks like Daute Culpepper to make it work. It doesn't work with wide receivers who are only capable of running one hundred yards in 12 seconds or quarterbacks who can only throw 20 yards. Not only that but you need coaches who understand it's strengths and weaknesses. So you need coaches like Larry Coryell, not the simple minded tight T formation coaches of the little leagues. Such simple minded coaches will only get people seriously hurt. Currently society is not made up of the Randy Moss's, Daute Culpepper's, or Larry Coryell's in the analogous sense to do what you would like to do. Your post demonstrates that you don't understand this and bears witness that such is the state of the world today.
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Why couldn't they use the stalls in the men's restrooms?
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
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    I was actually joking there.

    But in all seriousness, I've accidentally used the men's restroom at WalMart before (didn't even notice the urinals until I was leaving, that's how bad I had to go). And I've seen and known women who used the men's restrooms, even with men in there, because the line for the women's restroom was too long.
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