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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Not no but hell no...Would you want your wife or daughter using the same bathroom as a guy who thinks he is a woman?

    I've been using the same bathroom as men all my life. My brother, father, husband all used the same bathroom as me. True, they didn't think they were women - but maybe if they had they would have been a bit neater....

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    But as far as not noticing, it doesn't matter if you can tell the difference between a man and a woman. The internet has proven that I cannot. Even science and the Olympics sometimes have trouble telling. It doesn't matter because you should treat people the same no matter what their gender. You shouldn't have different expectations depending on their sex. Nothing in your argument matters, the only thing that does is reproductive function.
    That was a bunch of convoluted gobbledy gook. You say it doesn't matter whether you can tell the difference between a man and a woman. You say that you cannot, but then you are arguing about what is a woman. WOW!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    Ovaries are the logical criteria to define who is female, and a woman is an adult female. You can say that taking out the ovaries makes them neuter, ie no longer a woman, or you can say that being female at birth makes them always a female, and thus always a woman. In fact, you can even call them a man if you want, there is no significant distinction there to me (though there are some significant legal conflicts regarding same sex marriage, those will likely be overruled in a matter of weeks).
    Again more convoluted gobbledy gook. Here you have made three different statements, neuter, woman, and man. WOW!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    It's not in any way an absurd notion that someone who is neutered is no longer female, if you learn to speak of biology rather than public perception. If you want to play semantic games, you can even take over those terms entirely, and define "woman" and "female" by self-identification or anything else you want. As long as you don't base the laws on those terms. What does matter is having a man that can get pregnant, or a woman that can impregnate, because this possibility defeats the purpose of gender-specific laws.
    Every year thousands of women in the US have their ovaries removed. It is beyond absurd to say that they are no longer women. To say so would mean that women like my mother are no longer women. WOW!!!

    No more to say here. As far as I am concerned this discussion has become ridiculous.

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    There are gay pedophiles, there are female pedophiles, there are even legitimately transgendered pedophiles. Preventing a sex change doesn't solve this problem, not a relevant issue. Except to say that pedophiles shouldn't be discriminated against any more than transsexuals should.
    Please tell me that I am reading this wrong.

    From the way this is phrased I can only come to one of two conclusions.

    1: You agree that transsexuals shouldn't be discriminated against but also think that pedophiles should not be discriminated against.

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    2: You are putting transsexuals on par with pedophiles in that pedophiles are pretty much the lowest form of scum on this entire planet.

    Please tell me that I am wrong on BOTH of those conclusions.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    All the madness and lies notwithstanding, it's a matter of simple mammalian biology.

    One who has XY chromosomes and was born with “boy parts” is male.

    One who has XX chromosomes and was born with “girl parts” is female.

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    I've been in healthcare fields since I was 16 and I suppose that's why my opinion comes from anatomy and physiology. If you have a penis then you are a man. If you have a vagina then you are a woman. You can feel like you are anything that you want but that doesn't make you it. You can think that you are a toaster but that won't make you one.


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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Not no but hell no...Would you want your wife or daughter using the same bathroom as a guy who thinks he is a woman?
    What possible issue would that cause?
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:65]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Well, what do you think?
    yes.....
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Please tell me that I am reading this wrong.

    From the way this is phrased I can only come to one of two conclusions.

    1: You agree that transsexuals shouldn't be discriminated against but also think that pedophiles should not be discriminated against.

    or

    2: You are putting transsexuals on par with pedophiles in that pedophiles are pretty much the lowest form of scum on this entire planet.

    Please tell me that I am wrong on BOTH of those conclusions.
    Don't want to derail the topic but both are.. if not a "disorder" at least an unfortunate condition that they don't necessarily choose to have. Why would being born with one affliction make us feel sympathy while another makes the person evil scum? Psychopaths and pedophiles are born that way and need help, not hate.

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    No more to say here. As far as I am concerned this discussion has become ridiculous.
    Oh it started out ridiculous.
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    You say that based on what?
    Chromosomes.

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Males that have surgery to transform themselves into looking female should be call a transformed to look female. Or surgical female. Someone who needs surgery to appear a gender different than what their Chromosomes indicate should not be confused with an actual gender determined by chromosomes. If we start lying about simple biological things like gender then science with got to ****.


    A test of rational. Should this guy legally be a tiger because he transformed himself into a tiger?





    That being said there is nothing wrong with a adult choosing to have elective surgery to change their appearance.

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