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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Do you believe that story of hers? I don't.
    After this encounter with her I find it hard to believe anything she says...

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    So the poor guy who's had his amputated due to cancer (yes, it happens) is no longer male?

    Come on Bod, these issues are never that black and white. Gender identity, like sexuality, is so much to do with what you feel inside.
    First, was he born with it? Yes.

    Second, I have repeatedly stated that it is not black and white...

    Third, a male biologically is a male.,, just a fact.

    Lastly, gender identity is fine. No problem with it.

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I hope that you are doing that on purpose... othewise I have lost all of my faith in you.
    What other reason would there be to not legally recognize a transgendered woman or man as such?

    I get that this makes some people uncomfortable, I do. But that is still their discomfort. They need to deal with it. Just as people need to deal with discomfort over so many other things, such as having people breastfeeding in public or even having those of the same sex either naked in front of them or seeing them get naked. Plus, what about the men who would feel uncomfortable with a transgender woman in their locker room? Their feelings of discomfort aren't important? Why wouldn't women also feel uncomfortable with this "woman" around them in places like the restroom or locker room?

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    Or any of these guys really, because that is what women would see them as, men, despite their being transgendered/transsexual men, meaning they were born as women and would be viewed as "women" to many arguing "you can't change what you are born as".

    Simply repeating "well they are a man or woman physically", really isn't an argument. It doesn't get down to why they need that label and why that label can't be changed, let alone what that label is really based on. There are plenty of ways to describe a "woman" or a "man" biologically, and then plenty of ways to completely defeat that definition with what happens in real life. And when people almost always judge gender by appearance, usually how a person is dressed, presents themself, then it shows that gender is not really dependent on those physical characteristics. Sex might be for most, but gender would deal with how we refer to people, "yes ma'am", "no sir", she, he, her, him, etc.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
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    Ignored and bye... won't take the idiocy or ignoring/lying any further...

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is of no importance to the case in question. The individual is a man and from the sounds of it they were married before surgery.
    Another Henrinian proclamation.

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    A woman has ovaries, a man has testicles, there is no more to being a man or woman than that.
    Wrong, not all women have ovaries. I have clearly demonstrated how that is not the case. There is no need to go further, unless you have another line of thought to put forward.

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Another Henrinian proclamation.
    Do facts mess up your world view?

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Do facts mess up your world view?
    Do you have anything to post besides insults?

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Do you have anything to post besides insults?
    Do you often mistakes point of fact with insults?

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Do you often mistakes point of fact with insults?
    You mistake your personal animosity against me for facts. You have nothing to post but insults. As I suggested earlier, why don't you go down to the place where it is allowed, post one of your childish threads and engage in your disrespectful behavior to your hearts content. You simply don't have anything substantial to say.

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