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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    There is a disorder where people want thier limbs cut off. Should we indulge that?
    ah yes the tried and true practice of bringing up something irrelevant to the topic
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:65]

    "These things are equally absurd to me, so they must be the same!"
    "...it is all the more clear what we have to accomplish at present: I am referring to ruthless criticism of all that exists,"

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    ah yes the tried and true practice of bringing up something irrelevant to the topic


    It is relevant when you put it in the context of my post, cherry picking it and claiming it "irrellevant" does not make it so. FAIL .
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    It is relevant when you put it in the context of my post, cherry picking it and claiming it "irrellevant" does not make it so. FAIL .
    seems as thought your post was incomplete when i responded

    nevertheless your post is a fail because the desire to cut off a body part is not the same as the desire to relieve gender dysphoria
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    seems as thought your post was incomplete when i responded

    nevertheless your post is a fail because the desire to cut off a body part is not the same as the desire to relieve gender dysphoria


    Spoken like a true propagandist.


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    Why wouldn't it be a form of BDD?


    because the reproductive organs and socual constructs of gender are involved?
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    I always wonder why people stereotype most conservatives/republicans for having similar views and being bigots, they don't appear to be wrong.
    Oh that's easy. It's because the choose to ignore that many if not most conservatives see this as a nuanced issue like most people do. It's classic painting with a broad brush.

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    That one is a perfect example of what testosterone injections coupled with weight training can do in terms of protein synthesis.
    I have to admit it made me want to juice.

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    This is intolerance of difference of opinion.

    What it should be classified is a mental disorder.

    There is a disorder where people want thier limbs cut off. Should we indulge that?


    And before you throw out the "there is scientific proof". no there isn't there are theory and hypothesis, there is no factual determination. And while we don't know, forcing others to indulge in others fantasy isn't the answer.


    Run what you brung. if you have a penis and want to wear a dress, godspeed, if you are an adult and you can find someone willing to give you harmones, and surgery godspeed.

    But to expect others, no, coerce others to accept your views, is wrong.



    I personally don't care what bathroom they use, I can see why men claiming to be women and wanting to enter womens bathrooms, would be viewed as troubling by some.
    A mental disorder?

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    A mental disorder?

    Yes.

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    XY chromosomes do not change into XX. “Boy parts” do not change into “girl parts”. No current or plausibly-anticipated technology makes it possible for someone who was born one sex to fulfill the reproductive functions of the other sex. Sex isn't just a malleable “condition” of a human body; it is an immutable, essential trait of a human being.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Biological sex is an object distinction, based on hard scientific criteria. “Gender”—where it is claimed to differ from one's biological sex—is not.
    The condition of being a woman is based on more than just a composition of chromosomes, and the nature of a person's reproductive system. This is easily demonstrated by THE FACT than some women have the chromosomal structure as males and do not have the organs necessary for reproduction. While it is true that such instances are exceptions, they are there nonetheless, and these individuals do not feel that they are not women as a result. In fact some do not notice it until they note that they do not experience the phenomenon of menstruation.

    GIRLS with Swyer syndrome have an XY chromosomal makeup (as boys normally do) instead of an XX chromosomal makeup (as girls normally do). Despite having the XY chromosomal makeup, girls with Swyer syndrome look female and have functional female genitalia and structures including a vagina, uterus and fallopian tubes.
    Swyer syndrome

    Rather the condition of being a woman can be more accurately described as an experience characterized by such things as

    1. Sexuality
    2. Tastes in the presentation of appearance, such as choice of clothing
    3. Biological functions
    4. Anatomical structures
    5. Tastes in activity
    6. Tastes in aesthetics

    Although there is variance among women within these items, when we note a strong presence of some or all of these that are common to women in general, then we can say that the person is indeed undergoing the experience of being a woman. As such, it is not unrealistic to treat them in that way, at the very least in the legal sense.
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