View Poll Results: Should transwomen be legally trreated as women?

Voters
162. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    77 47.53%
  • No

    63 38.89%
  • Maybe

    11 6.79%
  • Don't know

    11 6.79%
Page 12 of 141 FirstFirst ... 210111213142262112 ... LastLast
Results 111 to 120 of 1409

Thread: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

  1. #111
    Sage
    roguenuke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Raleigh, NC
    Last Seen
    12-05-16 @ 06:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    28,923

    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Ah. Well, then, if there is a concern about gender, feel free to do so. I don't think anyone is going to stop you, except perhaps some folks on the other side who might one day argue that doing so is bigoted.
    Sex wasn't tested either, just in case you were wondering.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

  2. #112
    Sage

    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    56,621

    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Might I note right now that all of the six 'No' responses are male posters?
    Men are HATEFUL!



  3. #113
    Lady Libertarian

    Josie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    25,503

    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Might I note right now that all of the six 'No' responses are male posters?
    I'll change that since I totally agree with digsbe.

  4. #114
    Sage
    cpwill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    USofA
    Last Seen
    03-25-17 @ 02:09 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    55,281

    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Might I note right now that all of the six 'No' responses are male posters?
    Nah. I just redefined myself to a third, joint, gender.
    Worth noting, Democrats: President Trump will have a Pen and a Phone. #Precedent.

  5. #115
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Kentucky
    Last Seen
    06-05-15 @ 07:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Communist
    Posts
    2,264

    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    The fact that this has 8 votes of no bothers me....

  6. #116
    Sage

    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    56,621

    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    The fact that this has 8 votes of no bothers me....
    Why does that bother you? Did you really think people would buy into the idea that men are women because of hormones and surgery?

  7. #117
    Educator Helvidius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Good ol' US of A
    Last Seen
    01-31-17 @ 11:41 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    735

    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    I generally agree that Transwomen should be treated as women, but I can see where there would be some issues.

    For example, a UFC fighter who is a Transwoman: Do you allow them to fight with the women?
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

  8. #118
    Temp Suspended
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    03-17-17 @ 05:09 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    14,518

    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    I find it strange the entire discussion is about the locker room.

    how are sports handled? Are we saying a transwomen can legally compete with women in professional sports?

    I'm pretty ignorant on this issues, but wouldn't' they have a genetic advantage?

  9. #119
    Undisclosed
    Unrepresented's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    San Diego
    Last Seen
    06-12-16 @ 08:05 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,230

    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    All the madness and lies notwithstanding, it's a matter of simple mammalian biology.

    One who has XY chromosomes and was born with “boy parts” is male.

    One who has XX chromosomes and was born with “girl parts” is female.

    “Transgenderism” is nothing more than insanity backed up by Political Correctness.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

  10. #120
    Puer Aeternus
    Tsunami's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Virginia
    Last Seen
    11-08-16 @ 03:55 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    1,132

    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Why do you care? What difference does it possibly make in your life or your family's life for a transgendered person to be legally treated as the sex they transitioned to?
    In the modern era of gender equality, the number of issues where the government deals with sex/gender is shrinking, but there are still a few. For example, men and women have separate prison facilities. Women aren't allowed in military combat. Gay marriage is illegal in some states. There are issues of custody upon the birth of a child. None of these situations may apply to me directly, but it is in the public's best interest to deal with them all.

    Except for the military combat restriction, all of these issues are better defined by biological sex than by gender. The practical purpose of having separate prisons is so that a person cannot impregnate their cellmate. Gender reassignment surgery doesn't necessarily prevent this from happening, so it would be better to separate prisoners by biological sex. Basing same-sex marriage laws on gender would mean that there is a surgical operation that invalidates a marriage. Obviously this doesn't make sense for many reasons. Neither does allowing public exposure of breasts to be legal if the person defines those breasts as "male" rather than "female". These are some examples of why biological sex is a better criteria for lawmaking than gender.

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Perhaps I missed it, but I haven't heard anyone who opposes say exactly what defines a person's sex.
    Biological sex has been defined a number of different ways by science, and still there always seem to be exceptions. But the concept of sex comes from reproductive function, and as mentioned above that is the main purpose of differentiating between the two. So I personally would define it as such: anyone with a functional ovary is female, anyone with a functional testicle is male. This covers 99% of the population. For someone who has neither, we could define it by chromosomes, or by genitals, or simply use a third term such as "neuter" -- but it doesn't make much practical difference, as they can't reproduce so they are immune to most of the significant issues. There are intersex individuals with ambiguous genitalia born relatively often, but there has never been a true human hermaphrodite recorded by medical science with both ovary and testicle, so as far as I know this simple criteria applies to every human on earth.

    This relates only to biological sex. Gender is a totally separate thing. It is based on cultural stereotypes that are mostly false. I understand sympathizing with someone who feels like they are the opposite gender, and I have no problem with treating them the way they want to be treated when feasible. That just comes down to human decency. But for legal and practical purposes, biology is better defined and a better practical criteria on almost every issue, and should be used as the basis for our laws rather than gender. This takes nothing away from a trans- person who should be free to live their life as they please, just not redefine biology.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    The fact that this has 8 votes of no bothers me....
    I voted no, not because I don't like transgender people or want to deprive them of their rights, but because basing laws on something self-identified like "gender" makes less rational sense than basing laws on biological sex, which currently cannot be changed by science.
    Schadenfreude ist die schönste Freude.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •