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Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?[W:118]

Should the State force Sally to be ****'d by white men?


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An interesting question that got asked.


Sally decides to go to Nevada and become a prostitute. She wants to go to college later on, and needs the money.

Sally, however, is black, and has traumatic memories of being racially discriminated against / abused / what-have-you by white men. So Sally decides she's not willing to have sex with white men - it's too personal, too painful.


Should the state force Sally to have sex with white men, against her will? Should the state force her to be sexually penetrated by the men who will re-awaken her trauma, or punish her if she doesn't want to?
 
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Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

No, nor a republican.
 
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Only the christian victimhood complex could come up with such insane hyperbole. Selling a cake to a homosexual is not the same thing as being forced to have sex with someone. I wish that you had at least an ounce of shame and you should be embarrassed for making such a comparison.
 
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Only the christian victimhood complex could come up with such insane hyperbole. Selling a cake to a homosexual is not the same thing as being forced to have sex with someone. I wish that you had at least an ounce of shame and you should be embarrassed for making such a comparison.

I've also been asked if I should have to do business with a pedophile, a Nazi, a puppy beater, someone in the act of committing bestiality, etc. If these threads go on for much longer someone will demand to know whether a deli should be forced to make a sandwich for a time-traveling, cyborg Nazi alien.
 
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Only the christian victimhood complex could come up with such insane hyperbole. Selling a cake to a homosexual is not the same thing as being forced to have sex with someone. I wish that you had at least an ounce of shame and you should be embarrassed for making such a comparison.

Ah. So it's easier to pretend to spin away. :)




But no - Sally is discriminating in who she is willing to do business with based on race. Should the state force her to cease her discrimination and let her self get ****'d by white men?




I predict that few folks in favor of forcing Christians to violate their faith will be willing to vote.
 
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I've also been asked if I should have to do business with a pedophile, a Nazi, a puppy beater, someone in the act of committing bestiality, etc. If these threads go on for much longer someone will demand to know whether a deli should be forced to make a sandwich for a time-traveling, cyborg Nazi alien.

i asked in another thread and no one from "your" side would respond

i have a hasidic jewish bakery a few blocks from my house......there is a meeting place for members of the nazi party less than four miles from the bakery

should the members of that "club" be able to force the owners to bake them a "happy birthday Hitler cake?"

i doubt they ever would ask....but what if they did

do the accommodation laws extend into right/wrong issues like this?

this is a kosher jewish bakery......

my opinion is no.....they should NEVER have to make that cake.....period

but what say you all?
 
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i asked in another thread and no one from "your" side would respond

i have a hasidic jewish bakery a few blocks from my house......

Oy vey...

there is a meeting place for members of the nazi party less than four miles from the bakery. Should the members of that "club" be able to force the owners to bake them a "happy birthday Hitler cake?"

No, and it's not hypocrisy. And I know you won't understand why, either. Which is fine by me. Therefore feel free to make yet another troll video like the eight zillion other troll videos that have been popping up around the internet within the past week, thinking you've made some point.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

If Sally is a legally recognized prostitute in the state of Nevada and thus her product is sex, then denying that product to individuals based upon their race is by definition discrimination.

If it is that big of a deal with Sally, then she is certainly free to find another profession to work in and thus would never have to sell her product (sex with her) to a white man.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

i asked in another thread and no one from "your" side would respond

i have a hasidic jewish bakery a few blocks from my house......there is a meeting place for members of the nazi party less than four miles from the bakery

should the members of that "club" be able to force the owners to bake them a "happy birthday Hitler cake?"

i doubt they ever would ask....but what if they did

do the accommodation laws extend into right/wrong issues like this?

this is a kosher jewish bakery......

my opinion is no.....they should NEVER have to make that cake.....period

but what say you all?

No they shouldn't. Everybody should discriminate against genocidal bigots. What harm does being gay do to anyone?
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

If Sally is a legally recognized prostitute in the state of Nevada and thus her product is sex, then denying that product to individuals based upon their race is by definition discrimination.

If it is that big of a deal with Sally, then she is certainly free to find another profession to work in and thus would never have to sell her product (sex with her) to a white man.

I think that what one puts INSIDE there body trumps any anti discrimination law. If I was her, I'd pay the fine and go on.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

If Sally is a legally recognized prostitute in the state of Nevada and thus her product is sex, then denying that product to individuals based upon their race is by definition discrimination.

If it is that big of a deal with Sally, then she is certainly free to find another profession to work in and thus would never have to sell her product (sex with her) to a white man.

This is not a question about Sally, but about the State. Sally has been a prostitute for some time now, and discriminating all that time - should the state punish her for her discrimination or force her to have sex with white men?
 
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Oy vey...



No, and it's not hypocrisy. And I know you won't understand why, either. Which is fine by me. Therefore feel free to make yet another troll video like the eight zillion other troll videos that have been popping up around the internet within the past week, thinking you've made some point.


What if a SS couple demanded the Jewish Bakery provide leavened bread for their wedding during Passover?
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

:) Oh hey look - thus far no one is willing to vote.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

What if a SS couple demanded the Jewish Bakery provide leavened bread for their wedding during Passover?

What if the owner of the bakery was a T-1000 sent from the future to kill the future son of the SS couple? And what if the T-1000 was also a transformer that could turn into a dinosaur?
 
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:) Oh hey look - thus far no one is willing to vote.

I voted that Christians should not be made to sell to gay weddings. I would even support Christian bakeries right to post signage that they won't cater to nazis, the KKK or gays.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

What if a SS couple demanded the Jewish Bakery provide leavened bread for their wedding during Passover?

You think that Jewish bakeries only sell unleavened bread during Passover week (the days of unleavened bread)?
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

i asked in another thread and no one from "your" side would respond

i have a hasidic jewish bakery a few blocks from my house......there is a meeting place for members of the nazi party less than four miles from the bakery

should the members of that "club" be able to force the owners to bake them a "happy birthday Hitler cake?"

i doubt they ever would ask....but what if they did

do the accommodation laws extend into right/wrong issues like this?

this is a kosher jewish bakery......

my opinion is no.....they should NEVER have to make that cake.....period

but what say you all?

The answer in a case like that would depend partly on whether the Nazis fell into a category of people the state public accommodations law protected.

But even where a protected group is involved, I think there is a strong argument that a law that forced a baker to write certain messages he disagreed with would be unconstitutional as government-compelled speech. The right not to be compelled by law to express views you do not agree with is part of the freedom of speech guaranteed by the First Amendment. And a state cannot infringe that right in the name of preventing discrimination in public accommodations.

Say a graphic artist who is a white supremacist runs a small shop where he sells his posters, cards, flyers, etc. Under his state's law, the shop is a public accommodation, and that law prohibits discrimination based on race. Much of what the artist sells he designed himself, but he also does some custom orders. Should he have to design a flyer to a black customer's specifications, which are that it should be entitled "Black Power!" and include certain images of blacks beating whites and certain racial insults against whites?
 
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If Sally cannot reasonably serve a substantial part of the public, she should not own or be working in a public business where that is required.

Just like the Muslim woman at Target who did not want to handle pork. Then she should not have taken that job.

If Sally will not comply with the business regulations of the state, her license for that business should be revoked or her boss should fire her. Or stick her in the office to do paperwork or other tasks required for that business.
 
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This is not a question about Sally, but about the State. Sally has been a prostitute for some time now, and discriminating all that time - should the state punish her for her discrimination or force her to have sex with white men?

Business law / Social Contract 101: If you open a business in a country, state, or municipality, then you agree to abide by the laws and municipal codes of that country, state or municipality. If Sally doesn't like the anti-discrimination laws of Nevada then she is free to find another line of work. No one is forcing anyone to do anything.
 
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I think that what one puts INSIDE there body trumps any anti discrimination law. If I was her, I'd pay the fine and go on.

Or she could simply find another line of work. She is choosing to be a prostitute in a state with legalized prostitution. Implicit in that decision is to abide by the laws that regulate her profession in that state. If she does not like those laws, she can simply find another profession or move somewhere else. However, no one is forcing her to do anything.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

Business law / Social Contract 101: If you open a business in a country, state, or municipality, then you agree to abide by the laws and municipal codes of that country, state or municipality. If Sally doesn't like the anti-discrimination laws of Nevada then she is free to find another line of work. No one is forcing anyone to do anything.
Exactly.

Cp is under the impression that christianists are above the law.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

i asked in another thread and no one from "your" side would respond

i have a hasidic jewish bakery a few blocks from my house......there is a meeting place for members of the nazi party less than four miles from the bakery

should the members of that "club" be able to force the owners to bake them a "happy birthday Hitler cake?"

i doubt they ever would ask....but what if they did

do the accommodation laws extend into right/wrong issues like this?

this is a kosher jewish bakery......

my opinion is no.....they should NEVER have to make that cake.....period

but what say you all?

Meh, the Jewish bakeries in NJ make fantastic hot-crossed buns for Easter, celebrating that Jesus is risen.

The Jewish delis also sell pork products.

Like I have said, this is just 'selective' refusal based 'religious beliefs.' In other words, judging these particular sinners rather than serving them like they do all the other sinners or objecting to conflicting religious celebrations/rituals.

In other words, IMO, it's based on personal objections, not religious. Most are just using religion as an excuse. They are *using* their religion.
 
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An interesting question that got asked.


Sally decides to go to Nevada and become a prostitute. She wants to go to college later on, and needs the money.

Sally, however, is black, and has traumatic memories of being racially discriminated against / abused / what-have-you by white men. So Sally decides she's not willing to have sex with white men - it's too personal, too painful.


Should the state force Sally to have sex with white men, against her will? Should the state force her to be sexually penetrated by the men who will re-awaken her trauma, or punish her if she doesn't want to?

I sawe this example a couple days ago and wondered when the echo chamber would get around to bringing it here. It is a good example of what is wrong with the echo chamber, no fact checking, repeating stupid memes, and generally failing to think for themselves. First off, as best I can tell(I will admit to not finding it explicitly stated), it appears brothels are private clubs. You do not just walk into a brothel like a bar, but buzz for admittance. Also, the prostitutes themselves are not private contractors, which changes the rules somewhat. But that aside, based on anecdote, prostitutes are required to sleep with whoever is let in: Working In Nevada:

If they decide to refuse a customer, management must be provided with what it deems an acceptable reason. Some "customers" should certainly be avoided at all costs. They might be rude, rough, or drunk, want too much for their money, have an attitude problem, or just simply be jerks. I don't think anyone should have to provide sexual services to men like that. Yet, many of the brothels put the burden of proof on the prostitute. She must justify her right to refuse business, even though she loses money herself by doing so.

So it looks like you trying to equate one thing with something completely different because you want them to be the same so you can make a lame point you heard in the echo chamber fails.
 
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What if the owner of the bakery was a T-1000 sent from the future to kill the future son of the SS couple? And what if the T-1000 was also a transformer that could turn into a dinosaur?

I forgot, you aren't ever serious. My apologies.
 
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SouthernDemocrat;1064504329[B said:
]Or she could simply find another line of work. [/B] She is choosing to be a prostitute in a state with legalized prostitution. Implicit in that decision is to abide by the laws that regulate her profession in that state. If she does not like those laws, she can simply find another profession or move somewhere else. However, no one is forcing her to do anything.

To the bolded. I would recommend that to all prostitutes. Lol. No, no one is, or should force her to do anything. People violate stupid laws all the time accepting the associated risks. That's why I said, intimate as that "profession" is, she may do as she pleases and pay the fine. Of course wouldn't that be a bit difficult to prove, sense Sally probably turns away people for a host of different reasons. This is where, like analogies, hypotheticals at some level break down.
 
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