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Is the US a Christian country?

Is the US a Christian Country?


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As per the 2011 census, Iran has almost 120,000 Christians.

There might be more than that.

Christians persecuted at alarming rate in Iran, Arab world, US report says | Fox News

Hardly explains bringing out a extremist book that I've never seen in my life before, and painting America with it. You should focus on that bull**** instead. If the worse you get here is a book, there's nothing to complain about. He just wanted to take a cheap shot at America, and maybe that should concern you too.
 

When a nation has a government-supported church, The Church of England, and the titular head of government, H M Elizabeth II is also the leader of the church -- yes, one could call England a Christian nation.

Reading the comments at The Daily Express, it seems Mr Cameron has upset the bigots and Islamophobes by his earlier statements in favour or religious tolerance. England too, seem to have a group that can only understand bilateral thinking.
 
Yeah, in Iran they'd cut your ****ing head off for holding an Easter egg. Remember that the next time you ramble on about America.

Just like baking a cake for a gay wedding.
 
Just to understand you. Canada does not tax Canadian earnings while residing out of Canada while the US taxes its citizens anywhere they reside. Are you saying that Canada should be like the US on this issue? And I understand that there are pressures to restrict overseas residence of Canadians to 6 months or less. This seems like a major restriction on freedom.

From what I understand - Canadian citizens, permanently – long term -residing out of the country during that tax year – are not required to file Canadian tax on income earned while employed outside of the country.
I could be wrong.
 
I am in the 27% , so I think we are still a "Christian" nation ... so much depends on definitions .. and the political strength of the religious .
 
OMG, not this **** again. Do you know how to use the search feature of this website?

No – When it comes to abilities to use the search function, much like intelligence, there are tall trees, there are short trees and there is me.
 
The USA is a country with freedom of and from religion. :roll:

Read the U.S. Constitution.

I have read portions of it. Not all mind you but a goodly amount.
 
Only to the deluded bigots who wish to force their faith based homophobia and "ethics" onto everyone else.

I see those who desire a this nation to be Christian, not only in majority but in law, no better than those who would force us to suffer Sharia law.
 
Yes it is. But there are so many that wish is wasn't, and expend great efforts to eradicate any Christian influence of any significance.

That would only be those ones that don't appreciate the Christian influence pressed upon them.
 
Yes it is. But there are so many that wish is wasn't, and expend great efforts to eradicate any Christian influence of any significance.

The following quotes prove you incorrect:

"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people build a wall of separation between Church & State."

- Thomas Jefferson, letter to the Danbury Baptists (1802)


“Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.”

- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr (1787)


“If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”

- George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia (1789)


"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."

- James Madison, General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Virginia (1785)
 
As Christian as Israel is Jewish.

Why was Jefferson a faithful attendant at the Sunday church at the Capitol? He once explained to a friend while they were walking to church together:

"No nation has ever existed or been governed without religion. Nor can be. The Christian religion is the best religion that has been given to man and I, as Chief Magistrate of this nation, am bound to give it the sanction of my example."

President Jefferson even closed presidential documents with “In the year of our Lord Christ”

WallBuilders - Issues and Articles - Is President Obama Correct: Is America No Longer a Christian Nation?

He too has plenty of quotes that show his indifference toward religion, though it was politically useful as your second quote demonstrates.
 
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Yes, in the sense that the majority of the country is Christian. No, in the sense that its laws are categorically secularist in nature. I can't vote because the term is ridiculously vague.

In future I will work on the ridiculous.
 
Something they typically put you in jail for or cut your head off?

I was being facetious. There is freedom of religion and then there is freedom of religion.
 
And then there's freedom from religion. That's the freedom that I like the most.

To be honest, me too. Although I think entering the NY Public Library is a "religious" experience.
 
No – When it comes to abilities to use the search function, much like intelligence, there are tall trees, there are short trees and there is me.

Yup, there's you alright.
 
The following quotes prove you incorrect:

"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people build a wall of separation between Church & State."

- Thomas Jefferson, letter to the Danbury Baptists (1802)


“Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.”

- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr (1787)


“If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”

- George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia (1789)


"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."

- James Madison, General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Virginia (1785)

My contention is that a Christian nation need not be a theocracy, nor run afoul of the separation of Church and state. Wouldn't being a Christian nation speak more to the historical make up of the people?
 
That would only be those ones that don't appreciate the Christian influence pressed upon them.

I'm not seeing anyone press Christian influences on anyone else, but I'm certainly seeing an active effort to force Christians to accept and support counter to some of their fundamental religious beliefs, as well as ridiculing, marginalizing, and attacking them.
 
Yes it is. But there are so many that wish is wasn't, and expend great efforts to eradicate any Christian influence of any significance.

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As historian John Fea notes, “If the Treaty of Tripoli is correct, and the United States was not ‘founded on the Christian religion,’ then someone forgot to tell the American people… The idea that the United States is a ‘Christian nation,’ has always been central to American identity.” But debate rages over whether the Founders were Deists and why the Constitution bears no mention of God.

Like today, the Founding elites were less spiritually pre-disposed than the overall populace. Then, as now, politicians appropriated Christian themes. Obama even invoked Jesus to support same-sex marriage. The Founders knew the talk too. But as Gregg Frazier illustrates, when Washington, Adams and Franklin appealed to Almighty God they didn’t necessarily mean Jehovah.

In The Religious Beliefs of America’s Founders, (which I’ve not yet read) Dr. Frazier suggests designations of Deist or Christian are too simple. He describes the primary beliefs of core Founders as “theistic rationalism.” Frazier notes, “They took elements of Christianity and elements of natural religion and then, using rationalism, they kept what they thought was reasonable, was rational, and rejected what they considered to be irrational.”

This hybrid, unlike Deism, per Frazier, developed a benevolent god who heard and answered prayers to impart justice. All thought Jesus a great moral philosopher, but many important Revolutionary leaders denied his Deity. But be clear, biblical Christianity isn’t mere morals. Dr. Mohler stresses, diluting the Gospel to “Christian values” won’t save perishing souls.

Was America Founded As A Christian Nation? - Forbes


in some ways, we are a christian nation

in other ways, we are not

less and less people attend church on a regular basis across our nation, but more and more people find spirituality a core part of their being

i myself do believe we are a christian nation in that we stand for principles, we believe in liberty, and we were formed as one nation under god

but that is just my two cents
 

A perfect example of how disproportionate and bizarre the current situation is.

The LGBT community is a mere single digit percentage of the population, yet are the loudest voice in the public square (with the aide of complicite Biased Lame Stream Media) and see themselves righteous in their wanting to dictate what the rest of the population should be doing and believing.

How weird and disproportionate is that?

None the less, it is also the LGBT community that is one of the major forces shoving Christian and conservative ideas and ideals off of the public square though their well known miss-characterization, bullying, marginalization, character assassination, and claimed bigotry where there really is none.
 
I'm not seeing anyone press Christian influences on anyone else, but I'm certainly seeing an active effort to force Christians to accept and support counter to some of their fundamental religious beliefs, as well as ridiculing, marginalizing, and attacking them.

Well, that would be why we have lower and higher courts to mediate such things, because someone always feels their rights are being damaged.
 
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