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Do the majority of U.S. Jews support Netanyahu? [W:144]

Do the majority of U.S. Jews support Netanyahu?

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American said:
US reportedly backed down on initial goals in Iran talks | Fox News

This was reported from the start that they were back down on some of the key requirements, like no more uranium refining. They are so hellbent on a deal that they're willing to cave.
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Fox, yeah. P5+1 has maintained from the beginning that any deal will have as its premise two things, no Iranian nuclear weapons, and a robust monitoring system to ensure that. Why all the handwringing? Stop listening to the guy that has been crying wolf for twenty five years.
 
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Montecresto said:
France wasn't moved by Colin Powell's UN presentation.
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I can understand why, it was bad for business.
 
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American said:
I can understand why, it was bad for business.
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I think you missed the point. Like me at the time, France was unconvinced, and guess what, we were right. Saddam had no smoking gun.
 
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Montecresto said:
Fox, yeah. P5+1 has maintained from the beginning that any deal will have as its premise two things, no Iranian nuclear weapons, and a robust monitoring system to ensure that. Why all the handwringing? Stop listening to the guy that has been crying wolf for twenty five years.
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He has not been crying wolf nor any basis to make that claim. Israel has taken actions to prevent Iran becoming a nuclear armed power. NOR is the only question whether Iran has nuclear weapons.

One reason American military forces should be discouraged is while we fight Iranian efforts around the ME, we have a President proactively determined to 1.) lift sanctions to provide tens of billions of dollars to Iran's expansionism efforts and 2.) to prop up the government of Iran.

Putting your life on the line for a commander who wants to throw tens of billions of dollars towards the adversarial military and government, while that same commander is proactively endorsing the legitimacy of that adversary is perverse.

Since Obama wants Iran to have the money to buy all the weapons they want, why doesn't Obama just also outright sell tanks, aircraft, bombers, artillery and millions of light arms to Iran and be honest about his support of Iran becoming the dominate and controlling power of the ME? At least then Iran would be buying American made weapons rather than Russian and Chinese made weapons. At least then he would be acting honestly towards his clear goal as that is the known obvious effect of his becoming Iran's best supporter.
 
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Montecresto said:
I think you missed the point. Like me at the time, France was unconvinced, and guess what, we were right. Saddam had no smoking gun.
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Wow, if only you had been president..... :roll:
 
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American said:
Wow, if only you had been president..... :roll:
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Well no, if only the president had been president.
 
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Look at the awesome deal Iran just got. Imagine the deal Iran would have gotten if Obama was really Muslim. Scares me to even think about it.:shock:
 
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joko104 said:
He has not been crying wolf nor any basis to make that claim. Israel has taken actions to prevent Iran becoming a nuclear armed power. NOR is the only question whether Iran has nuclear weapons.

One reason American military forces should be discouraged is while we fight Iranian efforts around the ME, we have a President proactively determined to 1.) lift sanctions to provide tens of billions of dollars to Iran's expansionism efforts and 2.) to prop up the government of Iran.

Putting your life on the line for a commander who wants to throw tens of billions of dollars towards the adversarial military and government, while that same commander is proactively endorsing the legitimacy of that adversary is perverse.

Since Obama wants Iran to have the money to buy all the weapons they want, why doesn't Obama just also outright sell tanks, aircraft, bombers, artillery and millions of light arms to Iran and be honest about his support of Iran becoming the dominate and controlling power of the ME? At least then Iran would be buying American made weapons rather than Russian and Chinese made weapons. At least then he would be acting honestly towards his clear goal as that is the known obvious effect of his becoming Iran's best supporter.
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Lol. Iran is ok. It's not the monster you portray. And any finger you point at Iran applies at least equally to Saudi Arabia and Israel.
 
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American said:
Look at the awesome deal Iran just got. Imagine the deal Iran would have gotten if Obama was really Muslim. Scares me to even think about it.:shock:
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Framework, FRAMEWORK!!!!
 
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American said:
Cute buzzword.
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The framework for a deal has been constructed. It is what it is. Why are you against the P5+1 preventing Iran from building nuclear weapons, hmm?
 
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American said:
Look at the awesome deal Iran just got. Imagine the deal Iran would have gotten if Obama was really Muslim. Scares me to even think about it.:shock:
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Yes, if Obama was a Muslim believing in Muslim expansionism he might have done something extreme like declaring Iran is no longer considered a state sponsor of terrorism and lifting the economic sanctions against Iran to pour tens of billions towards Iran and underwriting both Iran's government and military finances and legitimacy.

Good thing we can be confident he would never betray and sell-out our allies that way, huh?
 
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joko104 said:
Yes, if Obama was a Muslim believing in Muslim expansionism he might have done something extreme like declaring Iran is no longer considered a state sponsor of terrorism and lifting the economic sanctions against Iran to pour tens of billions towards Iran and underwriting both Iran's government and military finances and legitimacy.

Good thing we can be confident he would never betray and sell-out our allies that way, huh?
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Iran is both a sovereign and legitimate country, too bad your bias precludes your understanding.
 
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Montecresto said:
Lol. Iran is ok. It's not the monster you portray. And any finger you point at Iran applies at least equally to Saudi Arabia and Israel.
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Since obviously you hate LGTBs and oppose any women's rights that is a reason you'd see Israel as far worse than Iran.

Besides imprisoning and terrorizing homosexuals, imprisoning and executing people who do not openly practice Islam, and denying women equal rights, what other reasons do you have for supporting Iran?
 
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Montecresto said:
Iran is both a sovereign and legitimate country, too bad your bias precludes your understanding.
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Nazi Germany was a sovereign and legitimate country too. So was Cambodia and Yugoslavia. You kind of countries that should be respected and our trading partners.
 
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joko104 said:
Nazi Germany was a sovereign and legitimate country too. So was Cambodia and Yugoslavia. You kind of countries that should be respected and our trading partners.
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Comparing Iran with Hitlers Germany, lol.
 
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Montecresto said:
Comparing Iran with Hitlers Germany, lol.
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Tell the difference - other than Nazi Germany treated women better and was more religiously tolerant. The genocide against Jews in Iran has been as effective as was Hitler. However, unlike Hitler, Iran also targets Christians, atheists and all other non-Islamic religions. Iran is vastly worst than Hitler was on human and civil rights.
 
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American said:
Why do you support Iran's violence against women?

Iran Human Rights | Amnesty International USA
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Supporting Iran is the way for bigots, racists, xenophobes, anti-Semitics and sexists to be who they are - without admitting it.

What we are learning is that Democrats really don't give a damn about human and civil rights UNLESS there may be Democrat votes in it. Pure hypocrisy and their slogans outright lies.
 
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Montecresto said:
What does that have to do with the P5+1 preventing Iran from having nuclear weapons, and your protestation thereof, hmm? Care to see Saudi Arabia's record on treatment of women, our ally?
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You tried putting words in my mouth, so I returned the favor.
 
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American said:
You tried putting words in my mouth, so I returned the favor.
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Ok, so you're supportive of the P5+1's efforts to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. And I accept your admission that Iran's nuclear program is unrelated to Iranian women's rights.
 
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joko104 said:
Supporting Iran is the way for bigots, racists, xenophobes, anti-Semitics and sexists to be who they are - without admitting it.

What we are learning is that Democrats really don't give a damn about human and civil rights UNLESS there may be Democrat votes in it. Pure hypocrisy and their slogans outright lies.
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Why are you talking to me about democrats? I'm an equal opportunity non partisan critic, reap the label of anti-American by the patronising crowd on a regular basis, lol. Oh, and Saudi Arabia has at least as bad a record as Iran and you support them as an American ally, whys that?
 
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