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Do the majority of U.S. Jews support Netanyahu? [W:144]

Do the majority of U.S. Jews support Netanyahu?

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Re: Do the majority of U.S. Jews support Netanyahu?

joko104 said:
What about a poll asking us to declare if we think American Atheists oppose the Israeli elected PM?

What do American Buddhists think about it? What about bi-polar American Islanders? What do American-Australians think?
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What about you make one?
 
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Cryptic said:
The majority of American Jews do not know who Netanyahu is.
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Can you prove that silly assertion??
 
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Apocalypse said:
That'swhat I'm saying, that the majority of these 72% who said yes are not fundamentalists.
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No, that number includes the fundies.
 
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joko104 said:
Your claim that you are one of "us" of Israeli Jews is what is the lie. The BIG lie is you using the word "we."

You got proof that American Jews agree with you that the holocaust was a hoax? You go proof that Israeli Jews are in a conspiracy with fundamentalist end times Christians to cause all wars and chaos in the ME?

PROVE THOSE ABSURD ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ISRAELI JEWS OR THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT.
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So I take it that you're a Jew? And a neocon Jew to boot??
 
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joko104 said:
Show me a poll that asked people to define what the word "Armageddon" means. Ask Americans "do you believe (any) book of the Bible is true?" and a majority will say yes.
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Sure, but it doesn't mark it so!
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
Right, but the intensity of support is definitely the highest among conservative evangelical Christians. I would answer that I support Israel when polled because it is a democracy and an ally. However, that does not mean that I am not critical of the government of Israel at times. Conservative Evangelicals are supportive of Israel because they believe that is God's will and that no nation will prosper that doesn't blindly support Israel on everything. Moreover, they believe we live in the end times and that Israel will play a central role in it. So there is a difference there.
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A difference (and I will heartily agree with you) that is hugely beneficial to Israel. Slowly as it is, that's diminishing.

How quickly things change. The days of taking evangelical support for Israel for granted are over. As they are increasingly confronted with an evangelical-friendly, anti-Israel narrative, more and more of these Christians are turning against the Jewish state.[1]

The End of Evangelical Support for Israel?: The Jewish State's International Standing :: Middle East Quarterly

Christian Evangelicals increasingly support Palestinian human rights.
Christian Evangelicals increasingly support Palestinian human rights

American Evangelicals' Support For Israel Is Waning.
American Evangelicals' Support For Israel Is Waning, Reports Say
 
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Montecresto said:
Can you prove that silly assertion??
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No.

The assertion, however, is based on 44 years of experience with US culture. In the end, most americans regardless of race, religion, or general poltical orientation; have very little knowledge about anything that does not directly impact their daily lives. Netanyahu simply does not impact the daily lives of most American jews.

So yes.... I think one can safely make the assertion that most american jews do not know who Netanyahu is.
 
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Cryptic said:
No.

The assertion, however, is based on 44 years of experience with US culture. In the end, most americans regardless of race, religion, or general poltical orientation; have very little knowledge about anything that does not directly impact their daily lives. Netanyahu simply does not impact the daily lives of most American jews.

So yes.... I think one can safely make the assertion that most american jews do not know who Netanyahu is.
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To the bolded, I thought so.
 
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Montecresto said:
A difference (and I will heartily agree with you) that is hugely beneficial to Israel. Slowly as it is, that's diminishing.

How quickly things change. The days of taking evangelical support for Israel for granted are over. As they are increasingly confronted with an evangelical-friendly, anti-Israel narrative, more and more of these Christians are turning against the Jewish state.[1]

The End of Evangelical Support for Israel?: The Jewish State's International Standing :: Middle East Quarterly

Christian Evangelicals increasingly support Palestinian human rights.
Christian Evangelicals increasingly support Palestinian human rights

American Evangelicals' Support For Israel Is Waning.
American Evangelicals' Support For Israel Is Waning, Reports Say
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I will believe it when I see it. I can't tell you how many times I have basically heard the following argument from Southern Baptists and other Evangelicals in regards to Israel:

"Those Palestinians need to understand that God gave that land to the Jews"
 
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Montecresto said:
To the bolded, I thought so.
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And why do you feel that Jews are different than other americans?
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
I will believe it when I see it. I can't tell you how many times I have basically heard the following argument from Southern Baptists and other Evangelicals in regards to Israel:

"Those Palestinians need to understand that God gave that land to the Jews"
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Oh I agree with you that it's still there. But s-l-o-w-l-y, it's waning. And the least supportive demographic is the under thirty! And they are the future.

Young Americans Moving Away From Israel Support
http://forward.com/articles/203589/young-americans-moving-away-from-israel-support/
 
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Montecresto said:
Yes, he's been wrong, and he's still wrong, and we have the framework for a deal with Iran now. So, as before, there's nothing to worry about.
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Sure, there's nothing to worry about. You go with that.
 
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American said:
Sure, there's nothing to worry about. You go with that.
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I'll go with that while you duck and cover worrying about the smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud over an American city.
 
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Just because the media and talking heads simplify it to a singular question of whether Iran obtains nuclear weapons, that is NOT the only issue at all - as there is the greater question of the effects of lifting sanctions against Iran - adding tens of billions to Iran's coffers AND supporting the Iranian government.

Iran is the #1 source of chaos and revolution all over the ME. Lifting sanctions will pour billions of dollars into that effort and empower the legitimacy of the government, which can claim it's militarism has resulted in the victory of the sanctions lifted - ie they defeated the USA on the world stage by military and disruptive actions in other countries throughout the region.

The REAL problem with the "deal" is that is a a pro-Iran stance Obama has taken seeking ways to enrich and empower the Iranian government and Iranian expansionism. If for no other reason, the nuclear issue is a justification to continue to starve down Iran's ability to export terrorism and expand it's influence.

Those who support the deal have to explain why they want to empower and enrich Iran's government and military, not just the nuclear issue.
 
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Montecresto said:
Because they are more politically active than the average American.

The Jewish Americans . Political Activism | PBS
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Your source does not indicate that they are moe poltically active than other americans. Rather, it isimply gives general examples of their activism starting in 1911.

You seem to have a belief that most Jewish Americans are knowledgable about Israeli politics and by extension, in the policies advanced by a certain Israeli politician (despite the fact that most US jews have never even visited Israel- and no, I cant "prove" that assertion).

In the end, American Jews are pretty much like everybody else: Their level of knowledge about a subject declines drastically if the subject does not impact their daily lives. Netanyahu does not impact the daily lives of most American Jews. Therefore, most do not know specifically who he is.
 
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Montecresto said:
I'll go with that while you duck and cover worrying about the smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud over an American city.
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I probably won't do that, but I won't trust any deal made by Kerry and Obama. This is all about their legacies, nothing more in my opinion.
 
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Cryptic said:
Your source does not indicate that they are moe poltically active than other americans. Rather, it isimply gives general examples of their activism starting in 1911.

You seem to have a belief that most Jewish Americans are knowledgable about Israeli politics and by extension, in the policies advanced by a certain Israeli politician (despite the fact that most US jews have never even visited Israel- and no, I cant "prove" that assertion).

In the end, American Jews are pretty much like everybody else: Their level of knowledge about a subject declines drastically if the subject does not impact their daily lives. Netanyahu does not impact the daily lives of most American Jews. Therefore, most do not know specifically who he is.
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Lol, Jews know who Netanyahu is, and your suggestion that they don't is silly.
 
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Montecresto said:
So I take it that you're a Jew? And a neocon Jew to boot??
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A "neocon" Jew? :roll:

No, I'm not Jewish. I'm not white either. Actually, "my people" though legally Americans claim they are not and never had been as they never reached a peace treaty and literally refused US citizenship when offered.

Anyone who is an American has an equal stake and interest in the fate and actions of Israel. To claim it is greater for American Jews is outright bigotry and some Nazi-like eugenics viewpoint.
 
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American said:
I probably won't do that, but I won't trust any deal made by Kerry and Obama. This is all about their legacies, nothing more in my opinion.
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Could you possibly be honest enough to acknowledge that this is a P5+1, Russia, China, France, Germany, UK, And US agreement. Not a John Kerry/Iranian agreement.
 
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Montecresto said:
Could you possibly be honest enough to acknowledge that this is a P5+1, Russia, China, France, Germany, UK, And US agreement. Not a John Kerry/Iranian agreement.
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Oh yeah, I forgot. Guess I should have mentioned how much I trust the Russians, the Chinese and the French. That doesn't leave many left to hang my hat on. Maybe if Obama hadn't see the bar so low early in 2009 I'd have some faith.

President Barack Obama willing to negotiate with Iran 'without preconditions' | US news | The Guardian
 
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American said:
Oh yeah, I forgot. Guess I should have mentioned how much I trust the Russians, the Chinese and the French. That doesn't leave many left to hang my hat on. Maybe if Obama hadn't see the bar so low early in 2009 I'd have some faith.

President Barack Obama willing to negotiate with Iran 'without preconditions' | US news | The Guardian
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Fair enough. So you think the French, the Chinese and the Russians want Iran to become a nuclear power. And why is it that you don't trust those three?
 
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Montecresto said:
Fair enough. So you think the French, the Chinese and the Russians want Iran to become a nuclear power. And why is it that you don't trust those three?
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Because at least two of them do business with Iran. France was selling Iraq weapons right up to the start of the Iraq War; so I don't trust them for ****.
 
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American said:
Because at least two of them do business with Iran. France was selling Iraq weapons right up to the start of the Iraq War; so I don't trust them for ****.
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France wasn't moved by Colin Powell's UN presentation.
 
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