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Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test? [W:249]

Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

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Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

MildSteel said:
According to William Kristol, Bibi would be the Republican nominee if the rules did not prevent it.
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I read that yesterday as well.
 
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MildSteel said:
There were Muslims living in what is now Israel before there was an Israel. What exactly do you think happened that those people ended up in Gaza?
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obviously... and just as obvious I am referring to the Muslim/Arab nations that attacked... not the ones that did not attack. That lead to segragation. Pretty simple stuff.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
obviously... and just as obvious I am referring to the Muslim/Arab nations that attacked... not the ones that did not attack. That lead to segragation. Pretty simple stuff.
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Oh really? Well since its so simple then Israel should allow them to return, those countries are not attacking now. It must not be as simple as you would have us believe.
 
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MildSteel said:
Oh really? Well since its so simple then Israel should allow them to return, those countries are not attacking now. It must not be as simple as you would have us believe.
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Was Israel not attacked by Hamas just last year with thousands of rockets and tunnel invasions? Current Events = not your friend.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
Was Israel not attacked by Hamas just last year with thousands of rockets and tunnel invasions? Current Events = not your friend.
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Wasn't there a period of time when there were no rocket attacks? You have it wrong, current events are not Israel's friend, and their treatment of the Palestinians is not getting them any friends.
 
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MildSteel said:
Wasn't there a period of time when there were no rocket attacks? You have it wrong, current events are not Israel's friend, and their treatment of the Palestinians is not getting them any friends.
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So after little bullies push you, slap you, hit you and treaten to kill you you hang out with them? That is retarded... I can see you are anti-Israeli instead of pro-peace so we are done.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
So after little bullies push you, slap you, hit you and treaten to kill you you hang out with them? That is retarded... I can see you are anti-Israeli instead of pro-peace so we are done.
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Oh, hundreds of thousands of people forced to leave their homes is bullying and slapping? Indeed it is, its just Israel is the bully.
 
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MildSteel said:
Oh, hundreds of thousands of people forced to leave their homes is bullying and slapping? Indeed it is, its just Israel is the bully.
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Israel was attacked first. Israel was repeatedly attacked... but go ahead and defend terrorists. Illuminates your character...
 
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Montecresto said:
Yes, but the problem with that assertion is the fact that Russia hasn't done what they've been accused of in Ukraine. The US supported a coup in Kiev in the fall of 2013. And the violent overthrow of the elected government. Not a democratic move, at all. Russia's response in Crimea was to that EU/US interference and to secure their interests and people's. I'm not the only one that disagrees on this, there's plenty that do not consider Russia in breach of the BM.
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Would you care to link to the Ukrainians who think that the treaty does not apply in this case.

Of course the aggressor that has breached the agreement would say they are justified. Of course the weak and gutless Obama would say that the treaty does not apply. If it meant he had to do something brave, he would run away faster than Hussein Bolt.

The Ukraine had defined borders and they entered into an agreement to maintain those borders with the USA. The USA reneged on that agreement to, once again, abandon one of its allies and another of its commitments.

It is common in the world today that our enemies do not fear us and our allies do not trust us.

As a country under the feckless leadership of the weak kneed Obama and erratic policies, we have earned both positions.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
Israel was attacked first. Israel was repeatedly attacked... but go ahead and defend terrorists. Illuminates your character...
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Oh so Israel won't let those people go back because they were attacked first? Amazing!
 
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joko104 said:
Any country that gives up it's own defense reliant upon the West and USA are true fools. This has been shown over and over. If Israel gives up it's defensive buffer as Obama and Western countries - plus as Israel's sworn enemies - demand, the Jews of Israel are doomed.
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In the case of this ally, Obama has shown that not only will he not support them, he will actively undermine them.

If Netanyahu feels abandoned by this posturing, weak pretender, he is justified in that feeling.
 
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MildSteel said:
Oh so Israel won't let those people go back because they were attacked first? Amazing!
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Same principle as we don't let criminals out of prison when they attacked us first... I hope you are trolling. Either way... bye.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
Same principle as we don't let criminals out of prison when they attacked us first... I hope you are trolling. Either way... bye.
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Since we don't let criminals out of prison why was Ariel Sharon, the murderer and war criminal the Prime Minister of Israel?
 
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MildSteel said:
Since we don't let criminals out of prison why was Ariel Sharon, the murderer and war criminal the Prime Minister of Israel?
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Concepts = not your friend.

The list is growing.
 
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MildSteel said:
Wasn't there a period of time when there were no rocket attacks? You have it wrong, current events are not Israel's friend, and their treatment of the Palestinians is not getting them any friends.
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You really don't understand the history of that region. For nearly 7 decades Jews of Israel have proposed a reasonable partition and exclusively Arab state. The result was and is refusal and demand that all Jews leave - although Israel as a Jewish nation dates back 3000 years and literally millions of Jews have died defending it against everyone including a million killed in fighting the Romans.

You refuse to comment on the genocidal atrocities against Jews including by Arabs and Muslims. There is no conclusion to reach but that you are vehemently anti-Semitic. Are you Arabic ancestry? Muslim? What reason is there for the hate fixation against Jews and extreme moral hypocrisy of your messages?
 
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Bodhisattva said:
Concepts = not your friend.

The list is growing.
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What? You can't explain how the war criminal Ariel Sharon was made Prime Minister of Israel?
 
Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

MildSteel said:
What? You can't explain how the war criminal Ariel Sharon was made Prime Minister of Israel?
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They elected him... again, simple.
 
Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

Bodhisattva said:
They elected him... again, simple.
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What? They elected a war criminal to be Prime Minister of Israel? You said criminals should not be let out of prison. Why would someone elect a war criminal to be Prime Minister of Israel? A war criminal should be put in prison.
 
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MildSteel said:
What? They elected a war criminal to be Prime Minister of Israel? You said criminals should not be let out of prison. Why would someone elect a war criminal to be Prime Minister of Israel? A war criminal should be put in prison.
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The Point *HERE*







Your Understanding *HERE*




WHOOSH!!
 
Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

Bodhisattva said:
The Point *HERE
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The point is that you said criminals should not be let out of prison. But Ariel Sharon was a war criminal and was Prime Minister of Israel. Why did they elect a war criminal to the post of Prime Minister?
 
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MildSteel said:
The point is that you said criminals should not be let out of prison. But Ariel Sharon was a war criminal and was Prime Minister of Israel. Why did they elect a war criminal to the post of Prime Minister?
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I did not say that we don't let them out ever... and ask the Israeli's. You are really grasping... it wreaks of desparation.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
I did not say that we don't let them out ever... and ask the Israeli's. You are really grasping... it wreaks of desparation.
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There is nothing desperate about it. You want to justify not letting Palestinians return to their homes on the principle of not letting prisoners out of prison, but at the same time Israel elected a war criminal to be Prime Minister. It appears that the point is above your head.
 
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MildSteel said:
There is nothing desperate about it. You want to justify not letting Palestinians return to their homes on the principle of not letting prisoners out of prison, but at the same time Israel elected a war criminal to be Prime Minister. It appears that the point is above your head.
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I never said that I don't want Palestinians to return to their homes... try again because you are sinking fast.
 
Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

Bodhisattva said:
I never said that I don't want Palestinians to return to their homes
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I never said that you said you didn't want the Palestinians to return to their homes. Here's what you did say

MildSteel said

Oh so Israel won't let those people go back because they were attacked first?
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Same principle as we don't let criminals out of prison when they attacked us first
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Here it is right here

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/220418-has-support-israel-become-new-gop-litmus-test-22.html#post1064486057
 
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