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Offended or no?

Does this picture offend you?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • No

    Votes: 72 98.6%
  • Total voters
    73
1750Texan said:
Exactly...we should have it removed for political ads. ///
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I do not think it should be removed from anywhere. Freedom of speech and all. I consider it inappropriate to use it as a prop, but that is only binding to myself.
 
Moot said:
I assume he fought for freedom.
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I don't think so. But that's beside the point. Do you really believe that after a soldier returns from war that he has earned the right to do as he wishes with the American flag. Even if it's a violation of the flag code?
 
Montecresto said:
I don't think so. But that's beside the point. Do you really believe that after a soldier returns from war that he has earned the right to do as he wishes with the American flag. Even if it's a violation of the flag code?
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As an American I think he has the right to do whatever he wants with the flag. People fought and died for that freedom.
 
It doesn't offend me. Should it?
Maybe there's something I'm just not seeing.
 
Not offended at all.
 
I've been following this story since it broke sometime yesterday or early this morning. Americans have been using the American flag in symbolic ways I suppose since there has been a flag and the flag code hasn't entered into a whole lot of it. From Lapel pins to red and white backdrops for automobiles and the opening scene of the movie "Patton" to symbolic snips of partial flags in all sorts of promotions and posters and logos and official seals or whatever. . . .

People who don't seem to be bothered in any way if Congress passes a law that clearly violates our customs and ethics or SCOTUS sends down a ruling that offends our strongest moral convictions or the President issues an executive order that changes or ignores an existing law or makes a new one. . . .

But they get their nose out of joint if a beautiful symbolic photo isn't really kosher according to the formal flag code? And then there are those who think the baby is being disrespected being cradled in the American flag. . . .it all just boggles the mind.

No. The photo does not offend me in the least.
 
Moot said:
As an American I think he has the right to do whatever he wants with the flag. People fought and died for that freedom.
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Ok. I doubt that the military would make that claim, but I'll take no further issue with you on it.
 
Superfly said:
Photo of baby in American flag shrouded in controversy


Is this photo considered offensive to you?

Clearly, it violates US Flag Code, but does it bother you that it does?


(if this has already been mentioned somewhere else on the board, you can merge the topics, but I couldn't find it)
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No, just the opposite of offensive or controversial. To use the flag in this manner shows exactly what the US is for that baby, her safety net, her home, her security, her heritage. Or at least that is how I see it, for the man who had his child in the flag in this manner just is his way to honor his child, his country and the love for flag and country.

I cannot see how anybody would be truly offended by this.
 
Moot said:
He served to protect our freedom...and that includes using the flag for whatever.
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So if he wants to wipe his ass with it, you are fine with that? Just because he served. How about others that didnt serve. You fine with flag burning as a form of free speech?
 
Montecresto said:
Ok. I doubt that the military would make that claim, but I'll take no further issue with you on it.
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The military doesn't have exclusivity over the flag....it belongs to all of us. Not sure what your point is.
 
CRUE CAB said:
You fine with flag burning as a form of free speech?
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For those who love their country, no act by a fool or enemy will change that love, but it is important to let people do what they want because that way we learn about them...
 
Offended? No.

Inappropriate? Yeah

Worth making a big deal over? Nah, not unless I start seeing pics from all across America of babies sleeping in hammocks made from the U.S. Flag. Then I'll have decide whether to protest or set up a "U.S. Flags For Sale" sign on my front lawn. :mrgreen:
 
Hell no its not offensive! I can't see how anyone would think it is. I even asked my neighbor who is an old school vet and she said no its not offensive.

Also, according to the article Vanessa had even asked several high ranking military members who said no, it doesn't violate the Flag Code.
 
Moot said:
The military doesn't have exclusivity over the flag....it belongs to all of us. Not sure what your point is.
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That the military would officially disagree with you that fighting in combat earns an individual the right to do as they wish with the flag. Including wipe their ass with it as Crue suggested.
 
CRUE CAB said:
So if he wants to wipe his ass with it, you are fine with that? Just because he served. How about others that didnt serve. You fine with flag burning as a form of free speech?
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Getting offended is a small price to pay for free speech considering a lot of our fore fathers fought and died for that right. Don't you believe in the First Amendment?
 
Superfly said:
Photo of baby in American flag shrouded in controversy


Is this photo considered offensive to you?

Clearly, it violates US Flag Code, but does it bother you that it does?


(if this has already been mentioned somewhere else on the board, you can merge the topics, but I couldn't find it)
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No, it doesn't offend me, and I couldn't care less about the US flag code. I don't really understand the near-worship some people have for the flag.
 
Montecresto said:
That the military would officially disagree with you that fighting in combat earns an individual the right to do as they wish with the flag. Including wipe their ass with it as Crue suggested.
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Lucky for us we still have a civilian government instead of a military dictatorship. I'm surprised that I have to defend one of our most basic rights, freedom of speech.....but, I'm proud to do it.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Hell no its not offensive! I can't see how anyone would think it is. I even asked my neighbor who is an old school vet and she said no its not offensive.

Also, according to the article Vanessa had even asked several high ranking military members who said no, it doesn't violate the Flag Code.
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§176. Respect for flag
No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.
• (a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
• (b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
• (c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
• (d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.
• (e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.
• (f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.
• (g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.
• (h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
• (i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.
• (j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
• (k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.
 
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