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Who is smarter?

Who is smarter?


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Obama or Cheney?

Obama's not only smarter (and appears to be more educated) but he's also wiser...and as most of us realize, there's a big difference between intelligence and wisdom. A lot of that came from Obama's broad range of experience in his formative years. Cheney is also a chicken-hawk - he got something like five draft deferments during Vietnam, but he's oh-so-eager to send young men off to their deaths.

That, and Obama's willing to publicly admit his mistakes...whereas I don't think Cheney ever has. To me, the courage to publicly admit one's mistakes counts for a lot..
 
To paraphrase the poll:

I have a point to make, so I'm going to make a poll so that half way through I can finally make my point.

I wish we could keep the hack threads in the hack section.
 
6 % Unemployment with 92 Million Americans not working and the DOW being influenced by FED policies like QE and ZIRP are really nothing to brag about.

And Obama's Foreign Policy legacy will include things like giving ISIS the means to spread across the Middle East and into Libya while his State Department Secretary did everything possible to circumvent FOIA and oversight committee request.


You shouldn’t get your numbers from Mike Huckabee. He’s lying.

That Squirrel-fryin' fool says 92 million Americans are jobless.

If 92 million people couldn’t find jobs, it would be the worst economic crisis in US history.
Here’s what the grifter did. Huckabee misrepresented one of the numbers reported by the Bureau of Labor Statistics with the monthly jobless numbers. In the last report, there were 91.8 million people categorized as “Not in the labor force.” Here’s the BLS definition for the category:

So compared to where we were, we’re doing great. And GW Bush created the foreign policy that allowed the thugs and heathens to take over the ME.
 
You shouldn’t get your numbers from Mike Huckabee. He’s lying.

That Squirrel-fryin' fool says 92 million Americans are jobless.



So compared to where we were, we’re doing great. And GW Bush created the foreign policy that allowed the thugs and heathens to take over the ME.

LOLOLOLOL !!!

The Daily Kos ??? Are you friken kidding me ?? What the hell is wrong with you people ? You post a link from one of the most Hack sites on the internet while you accuse me of getting my information from Mike Huckabee.....Lol ! Where did I even link to Mike Huckabee ??

And we're doing great ?? In what alternate reality do you live in ?? Obama pulls every last remnant of American Military presence out of Iraq, clears out Libya and creates a huge power vacuum which allows ISIS to tear across the Middle East unchecked.

Oh that's right, they were a " JV " team, nothing to be worried about....:lamo

His Secretary of State set up a private Email server for the explicit purpose of circumventing FOIA and oversight committee request and so she could cover her ass for her Benghazi Video lies and the massive foreign donations to the Clinton Foundation while her husband, the ex-President of the United States hung out with his good buddy at Orgy Island.

92 Million Americans of working age not working and that's with 8 Trillion in new debt and 4 Trillion in new liquidity from QE and Median household income hasn't even recovered to 2007 levels yet. Hey, do you realize that Bill Clinton gave Halliburton their first " No-Bid " contract ??

Yup, for his Kosovo diversion. I mean you people have NOTHING to defend yourself with anymore except stale Bush accusations. If your'e getting sick of defending criminals and corrupt Politicans you really should stop supporting Democrats.
 
An irrational question and an inherently ignorance-based partisan one.


They're both smart obviously to have reached the levels they've reached. What they actually believe in their heads nobody truly knows anyways, not even their own wives.
 
The above is what Fox News spoon-feeds their adherents. In reality, we've got 5.5% unemployment, we're in the 60th month of private-sector job growth (which is the longest in American history), the Dow keeps hitting record territory (and hit record territory something like 40 times last year), the S&P is in record territory, the NASDAQ is nearing record territory...and there's more:

OK, everybody, let’s get excited about 2015. Sure, there’s Ebola and Vladimir Putin and Islamic State terrorism. Western Europe is back in an economic rut, Japan’s recovery is faltering again, and China looks as if it’s headed for its slowest growth since 1990. But there are good things happening, too. Like, well, strong sales of recreational vehicles made in northern Indiana! “We’re in the recovery—we’re recovered,” says Derald Bontrager, chairman of the Recreational Vehicle Industry Association. “Obama visited this area three times. We were referred to as the ‘white-hot center of the economy.’ ” Bontrager, the chief executive officer of family-owned Jayco in Middlebury, Ind., predicts the industry will tie unit sales records in 2015 and break them in 2016, thanks to rising U.S. employment and continued low interest rates.

The good times aren’t confined to northern Indiana, the hub of RV manufacturing. The U.S. as a whole is emerging as the most likely candidate to power world growth in 2015. North Dakota is crazy busy with shale oil production. Seattle is swamped with Boeing (BA) orders. In Silicon Valley, Apple (AAPL) is selling tons of iPhones. New York City has more jobs than ever, as tech companies such as Google (GOOG) (with more than 4,000 employees in the city) lead the way.


BUT if you listen to the Fox News crowd, OBAMA'S DESTROYING THE AMERICAN ECONOMY!!!!!!

I dont typically watch Fox news. I'm just looking at the new economic data in context with other relevant economic indicators. Since I'm not a Obama supporter I have the luxury to look deeper than the Governments misguided declarations of a " recovery " without it contradicting my ideology.

Personally, I think a Policy that purposely ignores the tens of millions of Americans that continue to struggle with poverty and unemployment is pretty cold hearted.
 
Obama's not only smarter (and appears to be more educated) but he's also wiser...and as most of us realize, there's a big difference between intelligence and wisdom. A lot of that came from Obama's broad range of experience in his formative years. Cheney is also a chicken-hawk - he got something like five draft deferments during Vietnam, but he's oh-so-eager to send young men off to their deaths.

That, and Obama's willing to publicly admit his mistakes...whereas I don't think Cheney ever has. To me, the courage to publicly admit one's mistakes counts for a lot..


Lol !

Based on what ? Hiss predisposition to a failed leftist ideology ? His disastrous Foreign Policy decisions ? A Health Care law that was passed thanks to two years of lies about " keeping your Dr and Insurance " that increases cost on the Middle Class ?

His Green Jobs initiative ? His failed Stimulus ? The Trillions in new debt ? The 92 Million Americans that are out of work 6 years into his Presidency ? Black unemployment rates double that of other Americans ? A 40 % increase in Food Stamps ? Lol

WHAT exactly makes him smarter ??
 
Obama or Cheney?

So you are asking people who are dumber than both men to decide which is smarter. Since you put exactly zero criteria out there by which to measure the intelligence of each man, something tells me the results will fall exactly along party lines.

Pointless thread
 
I dont typically watch Fox news. I'm just looking at the new economic data in context with other relevant economic indicators. Since I'm not a Obama supporter I have the luxury to look deeper than the Governments misguided declarations of a " recovery " without it contradicting my ideology.

Personally, I think a Policy that purposely ignores the tens of millions of Americans that continue to struggle with poverty and unemployment is pretty cold hearted.

Says the guy who apparently believes in who-the-hell-cares-about-the-poor-people-'cause-they'll-do-fine-if-you-don't-do-a-damn-thing-for-them Reaganomics.
 
Lol !

Based on what ? Hiss predisposition to a failed leftist ideology ? His disastrous Foreign Policy decisions ? A Health Care law that was passed thanks to two years of lies about " keeping your Dr and Insurance " that increases cost on the Middle Class ?

His Green Jobs initiative ? His failed Stimulus ? The Trillions in new debt ? The 92 Million Americans that are out of work 6 years into his Presidency ? Black unemployment rates double that of other Americans ? A 40 % increase in Food Stamps ? Lol

WHAT exactly makes him smarter ??

As compared to the guy who helped lie America into a war where we were spending over ten billion dollars per MONTH just to send our kids to die in the illegal and unprovoked invasion of Iraq. Or did you not know that the very first freaking cabinet meeting Dubya and Cheney had after they first took office was concerning the invasion of Iraq, and who would get the oil fields?

Iraq was a war crime in the purest sense of the phrase...but since it was a balls-for-brains conservative who lied us into it, well, THAT made it all okay.
 
The only thing I know about their intelligence is their political careers. While Cheney is exceptionally literate in the essential characteristics of power (probably more so than Obama, although Obama is an exceptionally fast learner) he is definitely less enlightened about about the essence of power (he's not philosophical enough).

In practical terms, that means that Cheney knows how to use power very efficiently, but not why to use it or even what it is for.

Cheney does not know how to use a damn thing efficiently. He's just a rich old fart that f***** up two trillion dollars in U.S. taxpayer money and got thousands of young Americans killed in the name of his phoney wild goose chase. That's what you call a moron, a fool, the village idiot, and a dunce. Even he was given access to so much power all he could deliver was fail. Epic fail. How the hell could anyone who led a whole country on the biggest wild goose chase in history be intelligent?
 
Obama's not only smarter (and appears to be more educated) but he's also wiser...and as most of us realize, there's a big difference between intelligence and wisdom. A lot of that came from Obama's broad range of experience in his formative years. Cheney is also a chicken-hawk - he got something like five draft deferments during Vietnam, but he's oh-so-eager to send young men off to their deaths.

That, and Obama's willing to publicly admit his mistakes...whereas I don't think Cheney ever has. To me, the courage to publicly admit one's mistakes counts for a lot..

Of course he is more intelligent. The only thing that people can put forward for Cheney is that he occupied a position in the good old boy network. Any damn fool could do that job. All you got to do is talk like you hate Muslims, minorities, and the poor and they will say you are a great genius who fits in well with their organization. Even a damn monkey could do it

 
Obama's not only smarter (and appears to be more educated) but he's also wiser...and as most of us realize, there's a big difference between intelligence and wisdom. A lot of that came from Obama's broad range of experience in his formative years. Cheney is also a chicken-hawk - he got something like five draft deferments during Vietnam, but he's oh-so-eager to send young men off to their deaths.

That, and Obama's willing to publicly admit his mistakes...whereas I don't think Cheney ever has. To me, the courage to publicly admit one's mistakes counts for a lot..

Obama fan boyism as its worst. Obama's an empty suit whose main virtue is that voting for him allowed lots of guilty whites to be able to say "Hey I am not a racist-I voted for Obama"
 
Says the guy who apparently believes in who-the-hell-cares-about-the-poor-people-'cause-they'll-do-fine-if-you-don't-do-a-damn-thing-for-them Reaganomics.
ah the far left meme-if you don't vote for socialist collectivist nonsense you hate poor people
 
Well, this thread is going absolutely nowhere. :coffeepap

F*** all these snake, snail, puppy dog tail mf's. I know who the king is around here!!! :lamo

Any rate that's enough of all that ugly talk and BS. I had a long day hard day. I want to think beauty for the evening. This is for you, o beautiful feline princess! I do it all for you and all the beautiful ladies!!!!

 
F*** all these snake, snail, puppy dog tail mf's. I know who the king is around here!!! :lamo

Any rate that's enough of all that ugly talk and BS. I had a long day hard day. I want to think beauty for the evening. This is for you, o beautiful feline princess! I do it all for you and all the beautiful ladies!!!!

King? LOL, funniest thing I have heard tonight.
 
For all the haters, it ain't gonna work, no matter what you try. There is a story once about some very brave men who refused to bow to a king

15 Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?

16 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter.

17 If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king.

18 But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.


19 Then was Nebuchadnezzar full of fury, and the form of his visage was changed against Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego: therefore he spake, and commanded that they should heat the furnace one seven times more than it was wont to be heated.

20 And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace.

21 Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

22 Therefore because the king's commandment was urgent, and the furnace exceeding hot, the flame of the fire slew those men that took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.

23 And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

24 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king.

25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

That's how I feel about it. I may be wretched and full of flaws, but in my heart, I want to be like the REAL sons of Abraham.

Tell em about it my sister

 
For all the haters, it ain't gonna work, no matter what you try. There is a story once about some very brave men who refused to bow to a king



That's how I feel about it. I may be wretched and full of flaws, but in my heart, I want to be like the REAL sons of Abraham.

Tell em about it my sister
You derailing your own thread now?
 
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Yep it's lowdown what they try to do to ya!

 
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