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Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

Is Scott Walkers lack of a degree an issue

  • Yes, I dont take orders from some quitter

    Votes: 13 21.0%
  • No, he has enough real world experience to do the job

    Votes: 43 69.4%
  • Somewhat, I would like to see him finish.

    Votes: 6 9.7%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .
But then Obama had the novelty of being the first viable African American to run for president going for him. He also managed the youth vote in the 2008 election. The only thing that really carried him in the 2012 election was high African American turnout combined with the usual partisan leftwingers.
No previous president running for re-election would have survived the poor economic numbers and other issues that were dogging Obama in 2012.

Equivocate much?

The metric raised was if reelected
 
Yes, but will that message have any prayer of getting out with the national MSM? When you're dealing with people who aren't experiencing a better Wisconsin, who don't live in Wisconsin, and are told that Wisconsin is a hell hole because of Walker? I hope I'm wrong, but I've seen it happen too many times. I saw it happen in 2012 to a very good man. And there's no reason for me to believe the same tactics won't be used in 2016.

Those tactics will be used with a vengeance in 2016. The MSM will have to try even harder, because of the damage Obama has caused.
 
Most of what you operate on is assumption. I am a registered Independent. I belong to no party. I voted for Bush the first time. I did not vote for Clinton, I did not vote for Obama. Being a partisan I know you have difficulty understanding that, but a growing number of people are not Republican nor Democrats.

If I am going on assumptions, so are you. I have no party affiliation whatsoever. I am a conservative independent. It takes more then an "R" in front of a name on a ballot. I care somewhat which party wins the majority in congressional elections, but only because it can remove such extremist idiots like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid from high positions of power. Other then that, I just vote for real conservatives. That does not include moderate morons like McCain or Jeb Bush. I was basing my opinion that you are partisan on your comments on Scott Walker. I do not see you as objective on Walker. I see Walker as a conservative populist non-establishment candidate.
 
Those tactics will be used with a vengeance in 2016. The MSM will have to try even harder, because of the damage Obama has caused.

Correctomundo. (Is that a word?)
 
You are only assuming that such paperwork for volunteering would still be on file much less available on a link to the internet. That was not the digital computer age and not everything was put in a file for eternity. I served in the military in the early 1970s, and what records are available from my personnel files would be on microfilm. Not every request or memo would make it to microfilm. I am sure anyone would be hard pressed to find requests for official leave in those files, even though at the time, I would have signed a request. Volunteering for Vietnam in those days would have been handled mostly at company level and if such a request was turned down, and paperwork for such would not have been filed and held into perpetuity. I have read at more then one source that Bush did attempt to volunteer for Vietnam. Six years after Bush left office, I don't care all that much whether you are convinced.

OK, let's take this slowly.

There is no piece of paper that documents Bush having volunteered for Vietnam. None. At the outset the burden of proof is on you and your man Bush.

There would have been forms and people (that's plural) would have signed the forms including his CO. No one has ever stated that they signed or saw signed documents, including Bush's CO.

What was it Bush volunteered to do in Vietnam? He's never said. No one has ever said. Why? Clue: It wasn't to fly F-102s.

*** Big question *** When was it that Bush volunteered? What day? What month? Hell, I'll settle for what year?

If Bush wanted to go to Vietnam why did he not enlist in the regular military? Trust me, it was not hard to do at the time.

All you are giving me is "Bush volunteered for Vietnam". There is no proof, at all. None. In fact, I don't know if Bush even said that he volunteered. If you can't document it, if no one in his chain of command or in personnel ever recall it, if no one he served with saw him do it then it is an urban legend.

Hell, there is still a reward for anyone who can recall seeing Bush serve his last year in the ANG. NO ONE saw him at drill. But gung-ho Bush couldn't wait to get to 'Nam. :lamo

If Bush had wanted to ship over to Vietnam, he'd have been there. It wasn't difficult to do. LOL!
 
Yes, but will that message have any prayer of getting out with the national MSM? When you're dealing with people who aren't experiencing a better Wisconsin, who don't live in Wisconsin, and are told that Wisconsin is a hell hole because of Walker? I hope I'm wrong, but I've seen it happen too many times. I saw it happen in 2012 to a very good man. And there's no reason for me to believe the same tactics won't be used in 2016.

Actually I am optimistic. Any mileage the left thinks they will get from exploiting Walker not having a degree will peak well before the race really gets started. The democrat party is very anal with opposition research. And this is apparently all that they can come up with. And if they did not see him as a threat to whoever the democrat nominee is, they would not bother. They are just hoping for another Jeb Bush who they see as another McCain. They are holding their guns on him now. But if he is nominated, they turn on him as bad as they did his brother.
 
OK, let's take this slowly.

There is no piece of paper that documents Bush having volunteered for Vietnam. None. At the outset the burden of proof is on you and your man Bush.

There would have been forms and people (that's plural) would have signed the forms including his CO. No one has ever stated that they signed or saw signed documents, including Bush's CO.

What was it Bush volunteered to do in Vietnam? He's never said. No one has ever said. Why? Clue: It wasn't to fly F-102s.

*** Big question *** When was it that Bush volunteered? What day? What month? Hell, I'll settle for what year?

If Bush wanted to go to Vietnam why did he not enlist in the regular military? Trust me, it was not hard to do at the time.

All you are giving me is "Bush volunteered for Vietnam". There is no proof, at all. None. In fact, I don't know if Bush even said that he volunteered. If you can't document it, if no one in his chain of command or in personnel ever recall it, if no one he served with saw him do it then it is an urban legend.

Hell, there is still a reward for anyone who can recall seeing Bush serve his last year in the ANG. NO ONE saw him at drill. But gung-ho Bush couldn't wait to get to 'Nam. :lamo

If Bush had wanted to ship over to Vietnam, he'd have been there. It wasn't difficult to do. LOL!

Let's take it fast. You do not have the foggiest clue what records are kept in regards to a soldier in a given unit volunteering. There are different levels. Even if he put it in writing, it would not necessarily still be available. Not every record, request, or memo is preserved in perpetuity, especially before the computer age. And many records that are were kept and filed are not necessarily available to the general public. Considering that Bush has been out of office for six years, you are getting a bit anal about wanting proof. Bush volunteered. You can believe it or not. I don't really care. And I never suggested that he wanted to go to Vietnam from day one. Few do. He wanted to be a pilot like his dad. Most who become fighter pilots do seek to be deployed in combat units. As for the alleged missing time...that is rumors. Do you even have the foggiest clue how national guard service works? Bush's commander stated that he had all the flying time, drill time, meeting time, etc that was required. It's obvious that your only real problem with Bush is the "R" that was in front of his name on the ballots.
 
Actually I am optimistic. Any mileage the left thinks they will get from exploiting Walker not having a degree will peak well before the race really gets started. The democrat party is very anal with opposition research. And this is apparently all that they can come up with. And if they did not see him as a threat to whoever the democrat nominee is, they would not bother. They are just hoping for another Jeb Bush who they see as another McCain. They are holding their guns on him now. But if he is nominated, they turn on him as bad as they did his brother.

I hope you're right. But I'm pretty sure the Democratic machine has folks researching and trying to find any dirt, however minor, on every candidate the GOP is likely to put up for nomination. And they won't use much of that ammunition right now. But they will be weaving it into sound bites and talking points and they'll be ready to feed it to the media at the appropriate time to have major effect in the 2016 campaign. And the mainstream media will be more than happy to repeat it just as it is fed to them.
 
I hope you're right. But I'm pretty sure the Democratic machine has folks researching and trying to find any dirt, however minor, on every candidate the GOP is likely to put up for nomination. And they won't use much of that ammunition right now. But they will be weaving it into sound bites and talking points and they'll be ready to feed it to the media at the appropriate time to have major effect in the 2016 campaign. And the mainstream media will be more than happy to repeat it just as it is fed to them.


just like how you repeated WI was top 10 in unemployment and GDP growth.
LOL
 
just like how you repeated WI was top 10 in unemployment and GDP growth.
LOL

Perhaps a remedial reading course? According to one source I posted, Wisconsin in official and real unemployment rate, Wisconsin is up there with the top 10. All sources agree that last month, Wisconsin's official unemployment rate was 5.2% while the national average is 5.6%. That would put Wisconsin I think ranked 17th or 18th in lowest official unemployment rate. You were the one to say Wisconsin's unemployment rate exceeded the national average I believe.

And I have never said Wisconsin's GDP was in the top 10. I said that Wisconsin is #20 in population and #20 in GDP, which means it is certainly holding its own.
 
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That thing with Rand Paul has been discussed on quite a few websites and by bloggers.

Just curious why you're glad that Duke requires undergrad degrees to get into their medical school?

Well, guess if a person is smart enough...no need for high school. Go straight to med school. I knew a number of people in college who were "pre-med" students who were in majoring "OLOGIES" of one type or another...and even chemistry. They graduated. If I had my ruthers when seeing a doc, I'd prefer an ologie/chem undergrads that went on to med school than an english undergrad, but thats just me.

I see medical professionals who have gather a body of knowledge that usually involves undergrad work...might possibly be skill/practice enhancing. But that's just me.

If the undergrad drop out works for you...groove.
 
You assume a lot. Personally I can name some democrats I would have considered voting for. For instance if democrat Zell Miller (when he was healthy) were running against a RINO like John McCain, I would have voted for Miller. I also would have picked JFK over Nixon, if I had been old enough to vote at the time. Can't think of any active democrat today I would consider voting for though.
1) My observation was regarding a specific person.

2) For all their protestations, said person never did offer any personal examples to the contrary.
 
I wonder if a guy who couldnt finish college, and then goes into career politician mode will value higher education as much as most people?


It appears that he does not value it for Wisconsin.

Scott Walker Is One Of The Few Governors Still Cutting Higher-Ed Spending | FiveThirtyEight

This seems like a pretty relevant piece of information when regarding him as a potential Presidential candidate.

I think it is interesting how he is trying to repurpose the university to deliver graduates who will have skills that are desired by the state.
 
that's easy to fix, you're fired. go work somewhere else.

if I owned a business any moron employee who talked like that would be given a box of tissues and a pink slip.

let the eggheads refuse to work, we can always find more eggheads who will comply with their supervisor.

I'm a business owner without a college degree. In the 8 years of being in business and the previous 20 working for other people, of the many people I have hired and fired or been a mentor to in apprenticeship I can tell you that a college degree has meant absolutely zero to quality or proficiency on the job. These days I am more likely to hire someone with a good attitude and problem solving skills that someone with a degree even in our field. I can teach job specific skills, college does not teach good attitude or work ethic. Quite the opposite in my experience. I hold 9 Master certifications and am the go to guy in the area for diagnostics, when other shops get hung up on something it ends up at my shop. My most successful apprentice studied under me for 2 years and THEN went to school for it.
 
If somebody hasn't figured out what Scott Walker would do by now, and what his motivation and mindset would be, then really they're too effing stupid to vote.

Same goes for any other candidate who is two decades plus beyond normal college age years.
 
I take back any positive kudos that I've been attempting to give to Scott Walker. He's a common run-of-the-mill imbecile politician.

HEADLINE...

Scott Walker: 'I Don't Really Know' Whether Obama Loves America

Really? The boy ain't got no love for America?

Where is Walker's: "THIS IS MY VISION FOR AMERICA! These are what I believe to be successful plans to fix some of the things I consider to be hardships on America!"

Geeezzzzusss Gawd...what a crock of ****ing ****!
 
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I take back any positive kudos that I've been attempting to give to Scott Walker. He's a common run-of-the-mill imbecile politician.

HEADLINE...



Really? The boy ain't got no love for America?

Where is Walker's: "THIS IS MY VISION FOR AMERICA! These are what I believe to be successful plans to fix some of the things I consider to be hardships on America!"

Geeezzzzusss Gawd...what a crock of ****ing ****!

Charming guy, isn't he? Subtle as a rutting moose. Except when Walker is asked about his belief in evolution, then he's all shuck and jive.
 
I take back any positive kudos that I've been attempting to give to Scott Walker. He's a common run-of-the-mill imbecile politician.

HEADLINE...



Really? The boy ain't got no love for America?

Where is Walker's: "THIS IS MY VISION FOR AMERICA! These are what I believe to be successful plans to fix some of the things I consider to be hardships on America!"

Geeezzzzusss Gawd...what a crock of ****ing ****!

Charming guy, isn't he? Subtle as a rutting moose. Except when Walker is asked about his belief in evolution, then he's all shuck and jive.

:roll: he was asked basically to see if conflict could be stirred up between him and Guliani, and he passed on the offer by pointing out that he doesn't know (and he doesn't). I don't think anyone is going to see this in a negative light who wasn't already predisposed to vote against him.
 
I hope you're right. But I'm pretty sure the Democratic machine has folks researching and trying to find any dirt, however minor, on every candidate the GOP is likely to put up for nomination. And they won't use much of that ammunition right now. But they will be weaving it into sound bites and talking points and they'll be ready to feed it to the media at the appropriate time to have major effect in the 2016 campaign. And the mainstream media will be more than happy to repeat it just as it is fed to them.

Yes......the democrats are brutal on opposition research. If he pulled a girl's pigtails in third grade, we will hear about it. However you can pretty much tell how much they have by how they start out. I think if they had anything really devastating, they would have used it as he was taking on the civil service labor unions and fighting off the recall effort.
 
Yes, on what basis was he accepted to Occidental, and what were his grades there? Why are these such a mystery?

I imagine his grades are okay. I think he's hiding something else....perhaps behavior, perhaps organizations or groups he may have belonged to which would be embarrassing to him now.
 
I take back any positive kudos that I've been attempting to give to Scott Walker. He's a common run-of-the-mill imbecile politician.

HEADLINE...



Really? The boy ain't got no love for America?

Where is Walker's: "THIS IS MY VISION FOR AMERICA! These are what I believe to be successful plans to fix some of the things I consider to be hardships on America!"

Geeezzzzusss Gawd...what a crock of ****ing ****!

I think Obama's loyalties are fair game. He started off his first term going on an international apology tour. He cannot seem to form the words "radical Islamic terrorism" He is defensive in regards to Islam to the point where he delves back to the crusades and tells us not to get on our high horse. And there is the matter of his attending radical reverend Jeremiah Wright's church for 10 years.
 
Yes......the democrats are brutal on opposition research. If he pulled a girl's pigtails in third grade, we will hear about it. However you can pretty much tell how much they have by how they start out. I think if they had anything really devastating, they would have used it as he was taking on the civil service labor unions and fighting off the recall effort.

There are two tactics at play here and neither is very bright. IF, and I say IF an opposition candidate has real baggage, you hold on to it and see how far he gets, then drop the bomb.

Here they are attacking out of the gate, on petty insignificant issues on all candidates, apparently to undermine faith in all the Republican party. A very, very stupid tactic when you are trailing.

They have always been sore losers and now, after last November and Obama's growing list of severe weaknesses, thousands of lies, fabrications and utterances being continuously exposed, they are in panic mode. They have no viable candidate and those sniffing at the possibility are simply not presidential timber.

About a year after Obama was elected and these boards were filled with leftist arrogance, I advised the chickens would come home to roost. Payback is just beginning, the Senate is not done investigating the IRS scandal, I suspect the majority, having been beaten and trashed by Harry "smash mouth" Reid are going to be less than cordial about ramming stakes into the Obama administration and the Democratic party itself and the dregs who occupy chairs in congress.

The Democrats in their strutting arrogance forgot the first rule of politics...."they" can shoot back.

Now, with no prospects, no forwards, no game plan, they see the opposing team, bigger, stronger, smarter skating at them in a 5 on 3 rush and all they can do is yell insults at them.
 
There are two tactics at play here and neither is very bright. IF, and I say IF an opposition candidate has real baggage, you hold on to it and see how far he gets, then drop the bomb.

Here they are attacking out of the gate, on petty insignificant issues on all candidates, apparently to undermine faith in all the Republican party. A very, very stupid tactic when you are trailing.

They have always been sore losers and now, after last November and Obama's growing list of severe weaknesses, thousands of lies, fabrications and utterances being continuously exposed, they are in panic mode. They have no viable candidate and those sniffing at the possibility are simply not presidential timber.

About a year after Obama was elected and these boards were filled with leftist arrogance, I advised the chickens would come home to roost. Payback is just beginning, the Senate is not done investigating the IRS scandal, I suspect the majority, having been beaten and trashed by Harry "smash mouth" Reid are going to be less than cordial about ramming stakes into the Obama administration and the Democratic party itself and the dregs who occupy chairs in congress.

The Democrats in their strutting arrogance forgot the first rule of politics...."they" can shoot back.

Now, with no prospects, no forwards, no game plan, they see the opposing team, bigger, stronger, smarter skating at them in a 5 on 3 rush and all they can do is yell insults at them.

It took the 2014 midterms for the left to realize and accept how badly they were damaged by the 2010 midterms, and it went a lot deeper then just losing control of the house of representatives. They lost the control of the majority of state legislatures as well, giving the republicans the majority of gerrymanding power for the first time in over five decades. The legislature in my own state went republican for the first time since Ulysses S Grant was president in the late 1800s. The republicans have a majority in the house of reps bigger then they have had in over 70 years. About the only bright spot the democrats can claim is that more republican senate seats will be up for grabs in 2016.
Unfortunately for them, the obamacare chickens will be coming home to roost by then.
 
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