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Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

What should President do about Marines surrounded at Al-Asad Air Base?


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Yea, and what have they actually done? How about we parachute all of them into Syria and Iraq and let them talk ISIS to death?

Translation: We really don't do anything but we want you to think we matter.

Lets give em jobs, then Obama will ride in on his magical unicorn handing out snowcones.
They probably dont eat many snowcones, its too hot!
 
Like I should care about anything the Fund for Peace says?


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Yea, and what have they actually done? How about we parachute all of them into Syria and Iraq and let them talk ISIS to death?

Translation: We really don't do anything but we want you to think we matter.

this is what we call a logical fallacy. This one you are holding is called "poisoning the well". Its a variation of an ad hominem
 
The military isn't worth a ****. They don't protect us, they go abroad and kill people, destroy property, and make us enemies, they have no value, and the worship that the military receives is vain.

I am not certain one would need to read any other post from you in order to get your position on our military.

Like I said earlier, either you had a bad day or just got wrapped up defending your position on the Marines being surrounded. Or maybe you really feel like the Military is not worth a ****.

If I misunderstood this post, please correct me and I will gladly apologize.
 
This is serious s*** and a Custer style massacre could be in the making. Obama needs to either get in or get out, this halfway half ass war on ISIS is a recipe for disaster.

The perception of Obama in the old country is that he is inept and a fool. Maybe he does not love America as Guiliani claims.
 
This is serious s*** and a Custer style massacre could be in the making. Obama needs to either get in or get out, this halfway half ass war on ISIS is a recipe for disaster.

The perception of Obama in the old country is that he is inept and a fool. Maybe he does not love America as Guiliani claims.

What I find disturbing about the poll is the surprising number of people who actually voted for one of the first three choices!!
 
The perception of Obama in the old country is that he is inept and a fool. Maybe he does not love America as Guiliani claims.

Maybe? Giuliani put it mildly. B. Hussein Obama is a damned, dishonorable liar who does not wish this country well. He should have been impeached a long time ago.
 
I am not certain one would need to read any other post from you in order to get your position on our military.

Like I said earlier, either you had a bad day or just got wrapped up defending your position on the Marines being surrounded. Or maybe you really feel like the Military is not worth a ****.

If I misunderstood this post, please correct me and I will gladly apologize.

I make no apologies, nor do I seek any. As I said, I've got thousands of posts articulating this position.
 
And that will America safer?

Yes. Our foreign policy has caused our problems. Instead of knee jerk reactions to terror attacks, we need to consider the causes of them. Once we do that, then we will be much safer.
 
I make no apologies, nor do I seek any. As I said, I've got thousands of posts articulating this position.

Very well, I know where you stand now. Thanks for making it clear. It will be easier to navigate the forum with one more persons posts to skip over.
 
Very well, I know where you stand now. Thanks for making it clear. It will be easier to navigate the forum with one more persons posts to skip over.

There you go.
 
Why anyone who has not been brainwashed by government/Neo con propoganda would join the United States military today is beyond me.

Dying in the middle of nowhere to defend causes that are getting merkier and merkier by the day seems like a very poor career move to me.

And patriotism? :roll: please. Running all over the world and pissing off just about everyone (even with the best of intentions) with the Stars and Stripes on your shoulder seems to be hurting America FAR more then helping it...not to mention getting a lot of it's brave citizens killed in hopeless causes.

There have been many times that joining the military was patriotic...this ain't one of them. The government (both Bush AND Obama) are putting the military in terrible situations that it has NO CHANCE to win.
It is not the military that is at fault. It is the pathetic POTUS's that are telling it what to do.

And it is the fault of the electorate for putting these political losers in the White House.
 
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Yes. Our foreign policy has caused our problems. Instead of knee jerk reactions to terror attacks, we need to consider the causes of them. Once we do that, then we will be much safer.
What do you believe are the reasons behind these terror attacks?
 
Why anyone who has not been brainwashed by government/Neo con propoganda would join the United States military today is beyond me.

Dying in the middle of nowhere to defend causes that are getting merkier and merkier by the day seems like a very poor career move to me.

And patriotism? :roll: please. Running all over the world and pissing off just about everyone (even with the best of intentions) with the Stars and Stripes on your shoulder seems to be hurting America FAR more then helping it...not to mention getting a lot of it's brave citizens killed in hopeless causes.

There have been many times that joining the military was patriotic...this ain't one of them. The government (both Bush AND Obama) are putting the military in terrible situations that it has NO CHANCE to win.
It is not the military that is at fault. It is the pathetic POTUS's that are telling it what to do.

And it is the fault of the electorate for putting these political losers in the White House.
In fact the military supported Bush but definitely do not support Obama. Military Times: Mere 15 Percent of Troops Approve of Obama Why would any rational person support Barry Obama?
 
What do you believe are the reasons behind these terror attacks?

Probably a sort of hatred for the great white north. Or even a dislike of sow bellies, lilly whites, that haven't anything more to do than make an issue of German politics. Who can know?
 
What do you believe are the reasons behind these terror attacks?

Occupying their lands, stealing their oil, propping up leaders for our own interests. If other countries tried that in the US, how would you feel?
 
35% say to flee or surrender ... This poll must be contaminated by Islamic extremists .. ? Just too ludicrous ! Are there that many people who hate us ??
 
Any harm comes to those Marines and Obama should be tried as a traitor. Anyone who disagrees should be tried along side him.

The only people being 'contained' are our Marines.
I can "see" your emotion .... and Reagan should be tried as well (Lebanon, previous century, 200) ??
 
Occupying their lands, stealing their oil, propping up leaders for our own interests. If other countries tried that in the US, how would you feel?
A point , an excellent point , probably the root of terrorism ....but that bit about "stealing oil" .. the oil should "belong" to the people of this earth ..
 
I can "see" your emotion .... and Reagan should be tried as well (Lebanon, previous century, 200) ??

We were part of an International peace-keeping force. (the UN)) in Lebanon, not some trainers placed in a war zone by a pathetic excuse for a POTUS.
 
Your contempt and trivialization of our military in your messages is out of control being combined with a seeming inability to handle dispute.

Contempt? LOL. Trivialization? Bigger LOL. Like I said, sign up. Go fight. If you can. Our current military and public has done plenty. More than plenty.
I have no problem handling a dispute, on my own. Unlike you who wish to send others to do it for you. Well not really for you, for a foreign nation that don't give a rats ass about you.
 
35% say to flee or surrender ... This poll must be contaminated by Islamic extremists .. ? Just too ludicrous ! Are there that many people who hate us ??
I say leave. And I am about as far as an Islamic extremist as you can get.
But I say, have fun there. Sign up and go. Stay as long as you want. Fight all you want. Instead of wanting to watch other peoples kids die in a worthless war.
 
Occupying their lands, stealing their oil, propping up leaders for our own interests. If other countries tried that in the US, how would you feel?

LOLOLOLOL. Stealing oil. We get almost no oil from them.
 
LOLOLOLOL. Stealing oil. We get almost no oil from them.

The US has though exploited plenty of oil from the Middle East. US and British oil companies were among the first to organise, and the two governments had no compunction about kicking any opposition to the curb. So though we might see little oil flowing this direction now, it's not always been that way. And, a stated purpose for US engagement in the ME since at least the Carter administration, is the free uninterrupted flow of oil from the region.

This is what happened in the early 1950s in Iran. The Iranian government, under Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadeq, nationalized Iran's oil in 1951. Iran's concession was unusual for the Middle East in that there was only one parent company, BP. When its holdings were nationalized, BP obtained court orders enjoining other companies from buying oil from the Iranian government. Afraid of the example that a successful nationali- zation might set for other Middle Eastern oil exporting states, the British and American governments worked to destabilize and eventually to overthrow the Mossadeq regime. The restoration of the Shah in 1953 following a brief period of ouster also reinstated foreign oil companies as managers of the nationalized Iranian oil company.

http://www.globaloilwatch.com/reports/political-economy-middle-eastern-oil-tetreault.pdf
 
The US has though exploited plenty of oil from the Middle East. US and British oil companies were among the first to organise, and the two governments had no compunction about kicking any opposition to the curb. So though we might see little oil flowing this direction now, it's not always been that way. And, a stated purpose for US engagement in the ME since at least the Carter administration, is the free uninterrupted flow of oil from the region.

This is what happened in the early 1950s in Iran. The Iranian government, under Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadeq, nationalized Iran's oil in 1951. Iran's concession was unusual for the Middle East in that there was only one parent company, BP. When its holdings were nationalized, BP obtained court orders enjoining other companies from buying oil from the Iranian government. Afraid of the example that a successful nationali- zation might set for other Middle Eastern oil exporting states, the British and American governments worked to destabilize and eventually to overthrow the Mossadeq regime. The restoration of the Shah in 1953 following a brief period of ouster also reinstated foreign oil companies as managers of the nationalized Iranian oil company.

http://www.globaloilwatch.com/reports/political-economy-middle-eastern-oil-tetreault.pdf
Oh, now its the middle east as a whole. Please.
 
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