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Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

What should President do about Marines surrounded at Al-Asad Air Base?

  • Order those US Marine flee like in Yemen

    Votes: 6 14.6%

  • Have those Marines surrender to ISIS forces

    Votes: 1 2.4%

  • Have those Marines stay and fight it out on their own

    Votes: 1 2.4%

  • Send reinforcements and stand their ground

    Votes: 7 17.1%

  • Send reinforcements and attack ISIS

    Votes: 26 63.4%
  • Total voters
    41
CRUE CAB said:
What part of leave did you not understand in my initial post about the issue. Evac, destroy the air base. Pretty simple plan.
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So how many civilians killed equals 1 US Solder?
And the question I asked we not answered.
Care to answer?
 
apdst said:
Keep posting flamebait and you'll never get a straight answer.
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Not flame bait- you keep on riding around the question.
Tried to put a number on it as you have avoided a direct answer.
 
JANFU said:
So how many civilians killed equals 1 US Solder?
And the question I asked we not answered.
Care to answer?
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There is no number of them than can equal one US soldier. All of them if you must know, for all I care. At some point them people are going to have to put their big boy pants on and fight.
 
apdst said:
Are you a proponent of the regime's latest strategy which is a jobs program?
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I wanted to die when I read about that this morning. Talk about completely detached from reality!

After recent displays of almost unspeakable violence by Islamic State militants, a suggestion from the U.S. State Department about how to stop terrorists is raising eyebrows.

As CBS2’s Marcia Kramer reported Tuesday, the statement was jaw-dropping to some. The State Department said the long-term solution to stopping ISIS in its tracks is to create jobs for members of the bloodthirsty terror group.

The State Department said jobs can help stop jihad. But at least one congressman called the idea absurd.

“This is absolute insanity. We are at war with ISIS. You don’t win a war by a jobs program or by giving out more welfare,” said Rep. Peter King (R-Long Island) “This shows to me the basic misunderstanding, and really, ignorance, of the Obama administration.”
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Rep. Peter King Shocked At Claim That Jobs Program Can Stop ISIS « CBS New York

Sorry, but I am loosing all faith in the current administration.

The only response should be the immediate increase of force and pushing ISIS out of the area. Yes, we are pushing them back now, but why are we not pushing them back ourselves and lifting what seems to be a siege in the beginning? Allowing them to simply gather forces and not really doing anything to stop it is pure insanity to me. It is almost as if the Administration wants them to fail, therefore having an "out" in pulling forces from the area.
 
JANFU said:
So how many civilians killed equals 1 US Solder?
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And how many civilians must be slaughtered by ISIS until people give a damn about seeing them put down?



My your definition, why go into Germany during WWII?
 
CRUE CAB said:
So sign up and go fight. You dont think the US has bled enough for those bastards? Have we not spent enough on them? Did we not train them for a decade.
Oh, and foreign "power". LOL
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There so much a foreign power that you're terrified of them. Whether we recognize them formally or not, they have formed a country, a government, a military, a tax system - and additionally a pseudo country across the world. And they are recruiting successfully for literally 1/4th the world's population who all bow to the same God in the same direction at the same time of the day, swearing mutual allegiance to that God - a God of war, invasion, murder and intolerance from the very origins of the religion and within their religious texts.

Our soldiers haven't bleed for them, they've bleed for us. Sure, now you also are anti-military too, but they even bleed for you - for all your curse them and their leaders for it - and try to trivialize their efforts and loses as pointless and having nothing to do about you.

You are very foolish if you think we sent troops there for "them." They are there for us.
 
We already tried leaving Islamic radicals alone in their own territory. The result? The 9-11 attack.

I gather some people think they're just joking in vowing death to Americans. They have a MUCH larger population grow to draw radicals from than Germany or Japan ever did, and more of a potential for weapons to massively attack the USA directly.

They are not like the Soviets who were atheists. They really do believe that their best hope is in glorious death killing us for which they are then eternally rewarded, thus so many suicide bombers. The reason there wasn't and isn't a risk of nuclear war with Russia is Russian leaders don't want to die. Those of ISIS/ISIL and other Islamic radical groups have within their very belief system that they SHOULD give up their life to have their reward.

They get big enough, they will overthrow Pakistan. They will get nukes. Biological weapons too. AND THEY WILL USE THEM. They believe it is their spiritual duty to cause WWIII - certain ultimately they win it, but more importantly their efforts earn them a special place in eternity. This is the most dangerous growing cult around the world that has ever existed because it not only is a genocidal cult, but also a suicidal one.
 
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Oozlefinch said:
I wanted to die when I read about that this morning. Talk about completely detached from reality!


Rep. Peter King Shocked At Claim That Jobs Program Can Stop ISIS « CBS New York

Sorry, but I am loosing all faith in the current administration.

The only response should be the immediate increase of force and pushing ISIS out of the area. Yes, we are pushing them back now, but why are we not pushing them back ourselves and lifting what seems to be a siege in the beginning? Allowing them to simply gather forces and not really doing anything to stop it is pure insanity to me. It is almost as if the Administration wants them to fail, therefore having an "out" in pulling forces from the area.
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In my opinion that is exactly what Obama wants. He gave them Libya. He gave them massive amounts of weapons in Syria. Tried to give them Egypt. The list of his support of ISIS/ISIL is quite long.
 
Oozlefinch said:
I wanted to die when I read about that this morning. Talk about completely detached from reality!


Rep. Peter King Shocked At Claim That Jobs Program Can Stop ISIS « CBS New York

Sorry, but I am loosing all faith in the current administration.

The only response should be the immediate increase of force and pushing ISIS out of the area. Yes, we are pushing them back now, but why are we not pushing them back ourselves and lifting what seems to be a siege in the beginning? Allowing them to simply gather forces and not really doing anything to stop it is pure insanity to me. It is almost as if the Administration wants them to fail, therefore having an "out" in pulling forces from the area.
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Hell, even Chris, "leg tingle", Matthews was blown away.
 
JANFU said:
Not flame bait- you keep on riding around the question.
Tried to put a number on it as you have avoided a direct answer.
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Do you still beat your wife?
 
Oozlefinch said:
And how many civilians must be slaughtered by ISIS until people give a damn about seeing them put down?



My your definition, why go into Germany during WWII?
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They just burned 45 more to death near one of our bases in Iraq. And after beheading 21 Christians in Libya the other day, they have kidnapped more.

I want them dead, yesterday.
 
joko104 said:
There so much a foreign power that you're terrified of them. Whether we recognize them formally or not, they have formed a country, a government, a military, a tax system - and additionally a pseudo country across the world. And they are recruiting successfully for literally 1/4th the world's population who all bow to the same God in the same direction at the same time of the day, swearing mutual allegiance to that God - a God of war, invasion, murder and intolerance from the very origins of the religion and within their religious texts.

Our soldiers haven't bleed for them, they've bleed for us. Sure, now you also are anti-military too, but they even bleed for you - for all your curse them and their leaders for it - and try to trivialize their efforts and loses as pointless and having nothing to do about you.

You are very foolish if you think we sent troops there for "them." They are there for us.
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I quit reading when you called my terrified of them. Man up and go fight. Or STFU.
 
Oozlefinch said:
And how many civilians must be slaughtered by ISIS until people give a damn about seeing them put down?



My your definition, why go into Germany during WWII?
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When was the last time ISIS had a U boat off the shore of Florida?
 
US Conservative said:
They just burned 45 more to death near one of our bases in Iraq. And after beheading 21 Christians in Libya the other day, they have kidnapped more.

I want them dead, yesterday.
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They sure need to be stopped. This is slaughter of innocents on a scale not seen since Idi Amin.

It raises even more questions about how this is being carried out and why. Some whiners are frightened that these atrocities are a deliberate attempt to drag the US into a ground war.

I don't think so. This is an enemy taunting its power, showing that despite Obama's bombing they flourish; they can with impunity burn a Jordanian pilot to death, slaughter women and children because they were Christians and so were the crusaders, and now 45 people as though its a walk in the park.

Add this to now seven countries engaged....

Maybe its time to stop arguing about what to call them or whether they are one group, two groups, part of Al Qaeda or sons on the July revolution...man up and admit the pricks have tv and cell phones and are ****ing with us. While the president ponders on the historical consequences of stupidity a thousand years ago, maybe some one needs to focus on cancer that clearly cannot be "contained" and won't stop until they are relieved of the burden of their own heads.

Like Ghandi, I am n o pacifist, that when as in the Bible there is a time for war, let there be war instead of pretending to make war. And if we are to make war, let us make war like an advanced civilization. Instead of beheadings, incinerate the ****ers with high tech stuff
 
Fearandloathing said:
They sure need to be stopped. This is slaughter of innocents on a scale not seen since Idi Amin.

It raises even more questions about how this is being carried out and why. Some whiners are frightened that these atrocities are a deliberate attempt to drag the US into a ground war.

I don't think so. This is an enemy taunting its power, showing that despite Obama's bombing they flourish; they can with impunity burn a Jordanian pilot to death, slaughter women and children because they were Christians and so were the crusaders, and now 45 people as though its a walk in the park.

Add this to now seven countries engaged....

Maybe its time to stop arguing about what to call them or whether they are one group, two groups, part of Al Qaeda or sons on the July revolution...man up and admit the pricks have tv and cell phones and are ****ing with us. While the president ponders on the historical consequences of stupidity a thousand years ago, maybe some one needs to focus on cancer that clearly cannot be "contained" and won't stop until they are relieved of the burden of their own heads.

Like Ghandi, I am n o pacifist, that when as in the Bible there is a time for war, let there be war instead of pretending to make war. And if we are to make war, let us make war like an advanced civilization. Instead of beheadings, incinerate the ****ers with high tech stuff
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Absolutely-this IS the time for war.

And in the mean time, our removed-from-reality whitehouse suggests ISIS just needs a jobs program-and then says they can't be beaten!
WTF is this administration smoking?
State Department spokeswoman floats jobs as answer to ISIS | Fox News
 
US Conservative said:
Absolutely-this IS the time for war.

And in the mean time, our removed-from-reality whitehouse suggests ISIS just needs a jobs program-and then says they can't be beaten!
WTF is this administration smoking?
State Department spokeswoman floats jobs as answer to ISIS | Fox News
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Wait!

WHAT?

I read that four times to make sure you didn't have me with an Onion piece...

OKAAAAY!

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner! The answer to terror is jobs!

We haven't been able to create one here in the US in seven years but we are now going to kill them and keep on killing them while creating jobs for them.....

"Achmed, I cannot get a job!"

"Adul, then you should become a terrorist."

You can't make this **** up. No, you can't.

State Department did you say? Responsible for US foreign policy?

DUCK!
 
CRUE CAB said:
When was the last time ISIS had a U boat off the shore of Florida?
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Yea, and what does that have to do with ISIS?

The Soviets had subs off the coast of Florida for decades. Just being near by does not make them a threat. And just because they are not close does not mean they are not a threat.

Non-sequitur fail.
 
US Conservative said:
Absolutely-this IS the time for war.

And in the mean time, our removed-from-reality whitehouse suggests ISIS just needs a jobs program-and then says they can't be beaten!
WTF is this administration smoking?
State Department spokeswoman floats jobs as answer to ISIS | Fox News
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She acknowledged there's "no easy solution" and said the U.S. would still take out ISIS leaders. But Harf said: "If we can help countries work at the root causes of this -- what makes these 17-year-old kids pick up an AK-47 instead of trying to start a business?"
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:lamo :lamo:lamo

Hey lady....

Take a walk in Watts and ask the first kid you see with a gun why he hasn't started a business?
 
Fearandloathing said:
Wait!

WHAT?

I read that four times to make sure you didn't have me with an Onion piece...

OKAAAAY!

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner! The answer to terror is jobs!

We haven't been able to create one here in the US in seven years but we are now going to kill them and keep on killing them while creating jobs for them.....

"Achmed, I cannot get a job!"

"Adul, then you should become a terrorist."

You can't make this **** up. No, you can't.

State Department did you say? Responsible for US foreign policy?

DUCK!
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Nope, and that is what is most frightening. That somebody who is actually an official spokesman for the US Government made such a statement.

Maybe we can get them to stop the jihad if we offer them the GI Bill as well.

TerroristSchool.jpg
 
Fearandloathing said:
Wait!

WHAT?

I read that four times to make sure you didn't have me with an Onion piece...

OKAAAAY!

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner! The answer to terror is jobs!

We haven't been able to create one here in the US in seven years but we are now going to kill them and keep on killing them while creating jobs for them.....

"Achmed, I cannot get a job!"

"Adul, then you should become a terrorist."

You can't make this **** up. No, you can't.

State Department did you say? Responsible for US foreign policy?

DUCK!
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This is the fantasy land in the whitehouse. They are to the point where they are spewing long discredited spin that has already failed Americans.
But somehow it will defeat ISIS.

It should be an Onion piece-but its really hope and change.
 
Oozlefinch said:
Nope, and that is what is most frightening. That somebody who is actually an official spokesman for the US Government made such a statement.

Maybe we can get them to stop the jihad if we offer them the GI Bill as well.

TerroristSchool.jpg
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I can't imagine WTF our military thinks when it hears this crap.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Wait!

WHAT?

I read that four times to make sure you didn't have me with an Onion piece...

OKAAAAY!

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner! The answer to terror is jobs!

We haven't been able to create one here in the US in seven years but we are now going to kill them and keep on killing them while creating jobs for them.....

"Achmed, I cannot get a job!"

"Adul, then you should become a terrorist."

You can't make this **** up. No, you can't.

State Department did you say? Responsible for US foreign policy?

DUCK!
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I believe the talk about job programs was about the youth, to give them an alternative to becoming jihadist fighters.
 
joko104 said:
There so much a foreign power that you're terrified of them. Whether we recognize them formally or not, they have formed a country, a government, a military, a tax system - and additionally a pseudo country across the world. And they are recruiting successfully for literally 1/4th the world's population who all bow to the same God in the same direction at the same time of the day, swearing mutual allegiance to that God - a God of war, invasion, murder and intolerance from the very origins of the religion and within their religious texts.

Our soldiers haven't bleed for them, they've bleed for us. Sure, now you also are anti-military too, but they even bleed for you - for all your curse them and their leaders for it - and try to trivialize their efforts and loses as pointless and having nothing to do about you. You are very foolish if you think we sent troops there for "them." They are there for us.
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While some like Crue Cab feel troops are safer in their bunkhouses, and rightly so, the Military actually wants to attack those who are murdering all these people, including their fellow Americans. But the Commander in Chief is too busy playing golf in Palm Springs, taking selfies, mugging for the cameras, fundraising, and is unable to make a decision on whether to unleash the wrath of God or not just yet.
 
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