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Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

What should President do about Marines surrounded at Al-Asad Air Base?

  • Order those US Marine flee like in Yemen

    Votes: 6 14.6%

  • Have those Marines surrender to ISIS forces

    Votes: 1 2.4%

  • Have those Marines stay and fight it out on their own

    Votes: 1 2.4%

  • Send reinforcements and stand their ground

    Votes: 7 17.1%

  • Send reinforcements and attack ISIS

    Votes: 26 63.4%
  • Total voters
    41
apdst said:
Human shields aren't necessarily hostages.

What if it was your ass out there? I bet you wouldn't care who got blowed up. But, we all know that'll never be the case. Don't we?
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Of course human shields are hostages. If they weren't, if they were complicate, they wouldn't be shields, would they? Just that they're not Americans. You wouldn't consider bombing American hostages but Syrians are just 'collateral damage'.
As for my ass, that argumentum ad hominem represents your back to the wall, laddybuck. If you've got nothing left, you're better off saying nothing.
 
Dirt Racer said:
Yes Sir!

Saves time with people who start asking were I am stationed. Since I haven't been stationed anywhere but my house since 1998. lol
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I understand... but you know the deal... it's our Title, it means something, so don't just give it away.
..and there's no need to call me Sir.. i'm just a grumpy old retired SgtMjr, not an Officer.:lol:
 
Grand Mal said:
Of course human shields are hostages. If they weren't, if they were complicate, they wouldn't be shields, would they? Just that they're not Americans. You wouldn't consider bombing American hostages but Syrians are just 'collateral damage'.
As for my ass, that argumentum ad hominem represents your back to the wall, laddybuck. If you've got nothing left, you're better off saying nothing.
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No, you're wrong about human shoelds being hostages.

Don't make assinine comments about our troops and I won't have to use that argument.
 
Thrilla said:
I understand... but you know the deal... it's our Title, it means something, so don't just give it away.
..and there's no need to call me Sir.. i'm just a grumpy old retired SgtMjr, not an Officer.:lol:
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Oh believe me when I say I carry the title proud.

I call all Marines Sir. My best friend ( Retired Mst Sgt) lives two blocks from me and I call him Sir every morning and it drives him nuts. It's also something my Dad, who is also a Marine drilled into me early.
 
US Conservative said:
Thank you for your service. It matters.
Marines right about now would have prevented this mess with ISIS.
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It was my pleasure and I was proud to do it.

If this goes down, I have faith they will get the job done.
 
imagep said:
What makes you think that the hostiles won't leave also, and what makes you think that the friendlies won't be held inside the town by hostiles?
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I don't. There would be a risk that either or both those things might happen.
 
apdst said:
No, you're wrong about human shoelds being hostages.

Don't make assinine comments about our troops and I won't have to use that argument.
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Not asinine, on the money. You are being held to account.
 
Every Nato-countries special forces/marines should willing and ready to help if needed, but I have no doubt the US can send in more special forces to help those marines ASAP. Surrender is not an option under any circumstance, for all I care they kill each and every ISIS fighter.

No need to jail them if they do not immediately surrender, if they immediately surrender send them to the countries they came from and let them rot in jail there (after a nice little "chat" to find out any and all information they have). If they do not surrender then so be it, kill'em if needed.
 
WCH said:


Sure he does. :lamo
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He has a sense of humor. Get over it.

The last guy in office couldn't even remember the punch line. All that coc and booze killed too many brain cells.
 
ludin said:
fully scale air assault with heavy tank backup. that is if we have any resources that can mobilize quickly enough.
there is no way that these guys should stay trapped or be killed.
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Wow you sure don't have much confidence in them do you?
 
joko104 said:
Then it would seem your answer would be no reinforcements are necessary as those 320 Marines equate to 32,000 ISIS fighters.
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Got a link for that or is that another one of your exaggerations?
 
Oh my god !!
Reinforcements , even up to 100,000 men .. with nuclear bombs .. even reinstate the draft ! Iraq is hopeless ..Partition this area into 3 sections one for the Kurds, one for the Shia, one for the Sunni ..
ISIS must be wiped out ..100% !
 
"order our Marines to flee" unthinkable !
"have our Marines surrender " ? NEVER!!
But, why are they in Iraq, in the first place ??
 
earthworm said:
Oh my god !!
Reinforcements , even up to 100,000 men .. with nuclear bombs .. even reinstate the draft ! Iraq is hopeless ..Partition this area into 3 sections one for the Kurds, one for the Shia, one for the Sunni ..
ISIS must be wiped out ..100% !
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there's no need for a draft... none whatsoever.

nukes?.. totally not needed

there's also no need to partition Iraq, although the idea has some merit.... any partitioning should be up to Iraqis, not anyone else.
 
" Carpet bombing ?" YES , IF one Marine is killed ! or, just to "get the job done" !
Eradicate ISIS ... And the whole world should be in on this one ..
 
I'll overreact where it comes to the health and welfare of our soldiers ...I do agree that the Iraqis should be involved in the partition of their nation ..but its hard to imagine this being successful .. Nukes shortened WW2, no question .. This fighting and killing in the middle east has been going on too damned long ..
 
Peter King said:
Every Nato-countries special forces/marines should willing and ready to help if needed, but I have no doubt the US can send in more special forces to help those marines ASAP. Surrender is not an option under any circumstance, for all I care they kill each and every ISIS fighter.

No need to jail them if they do not immediately surrender, if they immediately surrender send them to the countries they came from and let them rot in jail there (after a nice little "chat" to find out any and all information they have). If they do not surrender then so be it, kill'em if needed.
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Special forces are combat multipliers, not a strike force.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Wow you sure don't have much confidence in them do you?
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it has nothing to do with confidence. it has everything to do with getting them out of there alive and making sure we pound the enemy into
submission.
 
ludin said:
it has nothing to do with confidence. it has everything to do with getting them out of there alive and making sure we pound the enemy into
submission.
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No worries! Barrack Obama says that climate change is a bigger threat to these soldiers than ISL, and the morale of ISL (similar to Jayvees) is very low.

You can read about the President here. President Barack Obama | The White House
 
JANFU said:
Yes I know that.
Do you support carpet bombing of towns/cities that are controlled by ISIL?
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Essentially yes, though "carpet bombing" even with iron bombs is significantly more precise than in WWII nor would this have to be done from extreme altitudes or with B52s. This would give incentive for locals to resist ISIS/ISIL - or to evacuate the city - and give no advantage in seizing/conquering cities. There is no real alternative.
 
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