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..to live there permanently.
Yeah.
..to live there permanently.
Can you please provide a link to the Federal law?
Thanks.
Not really. He knows tourists are not part of the discussion at hand. We are talking about people who travel here and live here. But, as usual, clownboy loves to erect his strawmen. And you love to cheer him on.
Actually, I'm on your side. The US is a good hearted country, and as such, we should provide medical and basic care for those who make it into the country. That said, you did sort of walk into it.
i am going to retract my former statement, because i cannot find the link i once used, i save all my important links,.... but since i dealt with this last time..... i have long since formatted my hard drive.
so i will take a hit from you and say you are correct...and i am wrong.
Does this help? Pg 1
https://www.aclu.org/files/assets/F...ted_immigrants_issue_brief_PUBLIC_VERSION.pdf
Entering the United States without being inspected and admitted,
i.e.,
illegal entry, is a misdemeanor or can be a felony, depending on the circumstances.
8 U.S.C. § 1325
. But many undocumented immigrants do not enter the United States illegally. They enter legally but
overstay, work without authorization
, drop out of school or violate the conditions of their visasin some other way. Current estimates are that approximately 45% of undocumented
immigrants did not enter illegally. SeePew Hispanic Center,
Modes of Entry for the Unauthorized Migrant Population
[May 22, 2006]
If You're Detained For Illegal Reentry to the U.S. - AllLaw.com
an illegal alien is a person who enters the US by subverting the immigration laws, and it is a felony.
people who travel to america on a work visa, or other US document, and over stay their welcome here is not a felony, however it is unlawful.
Denied admission to the U.S.;
Excluded from the U.S.;
Deported from the U.S.;
Removed from the U.S.; or
Departed from the U.S. while an order of exclusion, deportation, or removal is outstanding.
- See more at: http://immigration.findlaw.com/depo...rime-and-punishment.html#sthash.X5KBtoFo.dpuf
reading US law can be long and slow, but i am going on memory, a person who is not an american is an alien, and those who seek to enter without proper documents are illegal aliens, all other aliens that enter on government documents, are classified as "non-immigrant"
Wrong. Many illegal aliens are people who entered lawfully on a visa and overstayed. People who are here lawfully but are not citizens can be Lawfully Permanent Residents (LPR's)
Wrong. Many illegal aliens are people who entered lawfully on a visa and overstayed. People who are here lawfully but are not citizens can be Lawfully Permanent Residents (LPR's)
you have stated i am wrong, and provided your own words.
what is the document you are using for the words.....
mine the the 1924 immigration law.......
if you enter lawfully [visa/ work permit]..., you are a "non immigrant"..because the intent of expiration is to return to place of origin.
if you enter "illegally", you are an "illegal alien".....since you are not a citizen.
Correct, if you enter lawfully on a work permit, you are a non-immigrant. However, there are people who enter lawfully on a visa with the intention (and assumption) of eventually becoming citizens. Those are Lawfully Permanent Residents. They are not citizens but they are not expected to leave. They are immigrants, not "non-immigrants"
Yes, if you enter illegally, you are an illegal alien. But there's another group of illegal aliens - those who overstay on visas.
Your definitions are bit inaccurate and I am pointing out the deficiencies in your explanations. With both legal and illegal immigrants, you left out some people. In the first case, you left out those who are expected to remain here without any overstaying of their visas and with the latter, you left out those who overstay.
Also, you misrepresented the legal status of these people. They are not felons for simply overstaying a visa or crossing into the country illegally. Overstaying isn't a crime (though it is a deportable action) and crossing the border is not a felony, it's a misdemeanor. It's only a felony if you have previously been subjected to the removal process and ordered to not return.
people who travel to america on a work visa, or other US document, and over stay their welcome here is not a felony, however it is unlawful.
what is the point?
The point is that your descriptions were inaccurate.
As far as the rest of your post, like the previous ones, some of the things you said were true while others were not. I'm not going to repeat what I've already said.
i would say i could have been some what clearer.
i made it clear here.....over staying a visa is not a felony
crossing the border can be a felony the first time, it depends on the situation.
well you better, or you are wrong!
Thank you
No, the first time can not be a felony.
:lamo
REALLY???????crossing the border can be a felony the first time, it depends on the situation.
No I didn't. He was being intentionally dishonest.
REALLY???????
BOY ARE YOU GOING TO LOOK STUIP NOW!
High Speed Flight from Immigration Checkpoint (18 U.S.C. § 758). Depending on how an illegal alien enters the United States, if he came across the border and evaded law enforcement at a checkpoint, he may have violated this statute. To violate this statute, the alien must be in a motor vehicle traveling in excess of the legal speed limit and must be fleeing federal, state, or local law enforcement officers. Such offense is punishable by a fine and/or imprisonment of up to five years
False Statement to Law Enforcement. When an illegal alien is stopped or arrested as part of an investigation, particularly if it involves one of the travel-based offenses listed above, it is not uncommon for the alien to make a false statement as to the alien's identity. Depending on circumstances and state law, false statements to a law enforcement officer may be considered a misdemeanor or a felony.
Yes, speeding and making a false statement can be felonies
Crossing the border?....Not a felony
Also, you misrepresented the legal status of these people. They are not felons for simply overstaying a visa or crossing into the country illegally. Overstaying isn't a crime (though it is a deportable action) and crossing the border is not a felony, it's a misdemeanor. It's only a felony if you have previously been subjected to the removal process and ordered to not return.
people who travel to america on a work visa, or other US document, and over stay their welcome here is not a felony, however it is unlawful.
An immigrant is someone who travels to another country....