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Fox News posts the ISIS propaganda video on their website.

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This is the video of ISIS burning the Jordanian pilot to death in a cage.

WARNING, EXTREMELY GRAPHIC VIDEO: ISIS burns hostage alive| Latest News Videos | Fox News

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I actually viewed this video several days ago after someone on DP pointed it out. While I didn't understand much of what was being said, I took it for the propaganda piece it is and commented on the "production values" - it could win a best documentary short feature at the Academy Awards or more likely at Sundance.

That said, I was glad to have the unfiltered opportunity to view it. Unlike the usual beheading videos, this piece furthered my belief that this is a far more serious, far more organized, far more funded threat than ones that preceded it. That's a valuable lesson to learn. I wish more people would view it in its entirety for that very reason.

As a news channel, I believe FOX did the right thing here. This helps explain the reaction of Jordan and the reaction of many Muslims not only in the west but in the Middle East as well. This video easily gets to those who follow ISIS on various websites but doesn't get to the average citizen here in the west. It's good, in my view, to fully expose these less than human savages.

And if we all want to claim Je suis Charlie, we have to take the good with the bad when it comes to reporting news and newsmakers.
 
Not only is it in absolute poor taste, they are basically advertising ISIS.

FoxNews' new tagline:

Suck it 4chan amateur pukes! :flames:
 
I actually viewed this video several days ago after someone on DP pointed it out. While I didn't understand much of what was being said, I took it for the propaganda piece it is and commented on the "production values" - it could win a best documentary short feature at the Academy Awards or more likely at Sundance.

That said, I was glad to have the unfiltered opportunity to view it. Unlike the usual beheading videos, this piece furthered my belief that this is a far more serious, far more organized, far more funded threat than ones that preceded it. That's a valuable lesson to learn. I wish more people would view it in its entirety for that very reason.

As a news channel, I believe FOX did the right thing here. This helps explain the reaction of Jordan and the reaction of many Muslims not only in the west but in the Middle East as well. This video easily gets to those who follow ISIS on various websites but doesn't get to the average citizen here in the west. It's good, in my view, to fully expose these less than human savages.

And if we all want to claim Je suis Charlie, we have to take the good with the bad when it comes to reporting news and newsmakers.

I disagree, I don't think we need videos like this to show how evil ISIS is. I think Fox News did ISIS work for them. They will show this, but you'll never see what those car bombs did to the people in Iraq and to our troops. You'll see car parts everywhere, but you won't see parts of bodies on the streets.;
 
I actually viewed this video several days ago after someone on DP pointed it out. While I didn't understand much of what was being said, I took it for the propaganda piece it is and commented on the "production values" - it could win a best documentary short feature at the Academy Awards or more likely at Sundance.

That said, I was glad to have the unfiltered opportunity to view it. Unlike the usual beheading videos, this piece furthered my belief that this is a far more serious, far more organized, far more funded threat than ones that preceded it. That's a valuable lesson to learn. I wish more people would view it in its entirety for that very reason.

As a news channel, I believe FOX did the right thing here. This helps explain the reaction of Jordan and the reaction of many Muslims not only in the west but in the Middle East as well. This video easily gets to those who follow ISIS on various websites but doesn't get to the average citizen here in the west. It's good, in my view, to fully expose these less than human savages.

And if we all want to claim Je suis Charlie, we have to take the good with the bad when it comes to reporting news and newsmakers.


I doubt many local TV stations could have fashioned as slick a presentation. I count four cameras on the event, and some switching effects not available through circuit city. It has been my contention from the first beheading that what is perceived is not what is, we are being very cleverly and sophisticatedly manipulated. Of course we see the offset, impact war visuals, US troops over Jordanian troops, kill Jordan for being America's friend. We see that, but I watch with an uneasy silence wondering what, through my cultural ignorance, am I missing. This is a call to fight, an invitation of emotion to the youth of Islam to get even against America and anyone who helps her, even fellow Muslims as this video is clearly making a case for.

Which makes Obama's prayer breakfast fiasco that much more frightening. The White House must know what are those hidden appeals, and yet Obama deliberately down played this tape by comparing it to the crusades.

I do not believe in conspiracies, too many people stand to gain too much by talking and every reporter knows everyone wants to talk...off the record.

But, this frightens me
 
If it was being posted for its news value then FOX would have included English subtitles. But they didn't because they were just going for shock value.
 
I disagree, I don't think we need videos like this to show how evil ISIS is.
I think Fox News did ISIS work for them. They will show this, but you'll never see what those car bombs did to the people in Iraq and to our troops. You'll see car parts everywhere, but you won't see parts of bodies on the streets.;

Give Obama a call.
He said we're making too big of a deal about all this terrorism mumbo jumbo.
Must be our high horse and all.
 
Okay ... soooooo ... showing the barbarity of ISIS is an advertisement for them but a President reinforcing their recruiting pitch is a history lesson.
 
ISIS needs a media outlet to advance their message. What better outlet than FOX? Gotta love free speech! Even when it comes back and bites you in the ass.
 
Good or bad what?

They posted that video 6 days ago. Have I watched it anywhere that it's available? No. But I don't look at train crashes or pictures of dead children either, so it's not my thing anyway.
 
Good or bad what?

They posted that video 6 days ago. Have I watched it anywhere that it's available? No. But I don't look at train crashes or pictures of dead children either, so it's not my thing anyway.

Greetings, tres borachos. :2wave:

Me neither, Tres. I don't need to see cruelty on the part of ISIS or anyone else to know it exists. When I saw the video of the gentle elephant in India with tears in his eyes as he was being freed from his shackles after 30 years of being beaten, starved, and worked to death, I sat at my computer table crying for a long time. Have some people become so used to personal misery in their life that they lose all sense of right and wrong? It's the only explanation I can come up with when I think of groups like ISIS, because no baby is born mean - it is taught to them, IMO.
 
This is the video of ISIS burning the Jordanian pilot to death in a cage.

WARNING, EXTREMELY GRAPHIC VIDEO: ISIS burns hostage alive| Latest News Videos | Fox News

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I think it depends on why they are showing the video. I they are trying to stir the public into lets bomb these animals until kingdom come in order to motivate the public into endorsing another war in the middle east then it is bad. If they are simply trying to show how evil these animals are then its possible it might be good. I do not know about you but I do not need a video of animals lighting a man on fire to know that ISIL is evil.I am sure most people don't as well. So I suspect the intent in to enrage the public enough into supporting another war that we have no business in.
 
This is the video of ISIS burning the Jordanian pilot to death in a cage.

WARNING, EXTREMELY GRAPHIC VIDEO: ISIS burns hostage alive| Latest News Videos | Fox News

Good or Bad

I won't be watching it. Didn't look for it. Don't want to see it. But I find no fault with those who feel differently. We are curious beings. Death and dying is one of those curiosities. It's why there are gapers' blocks at accidents. Most of us have been "guilty" (not the right word) of those curiosities at one time or another.

This one especially would be heart breaking. I simply couldn't bear it. While it wouldn't be akin to animal abuse (which would cause me to poke my eyes out B4 I would watch), it would be much too close for comfort.

One episode of Criminal Minds had dialogue in the background while they were flying home that speaks volumes to me:

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.
 
I won't be watching it. Didn't look for it. Don't want to see it. But I find no fault with those who feel differently. We are curious beings. Death and dying is one of those curiosities. It's why there are gapers' blocks at accidents. Most of us have been "guilty" (not the right word) of those curiosities at one time or another.

This one especially would be heart breaking. I simply couldn't bear it. While it wouldn't be akin to animal abuse (which would cause me to poke my eyes out B4 I would watch), it would be much too close for comfort.

One episode of Criminal Minds had dialogue in the background while they were flying home that speaks volumes to me:
I don't blame you for not watching it Maggie. I did and it was absolutely awful. I hate to say it, but it was very well produced. It personified evil.
 
I would never post it, nor watch it, out of respect for the victim and his family and out of loathing for IS. That being said, everybody has to make their own choices regarding this. Most important is that everyone realizes what sort of enemy we are up against. But I don't need that video to know that.
 
It's not journalism, it's sensationalism. Fox News continues to disgrace and discredit itself.
 
Good or bad what?

They posted that video 6 days ago. Have I watched it anywhere that it's available? No. But I don't look at train crashes or pictures of dead children either, so it's not my thing anyway.

Say that person in the video is a relative of yours, how would you feel about a news organization posting a video of his death?
 
Say that person in the video is a relative of yours, how would you feel about a news organization posting a video of his death?

Considering the person in question was a military captive, I'd appreciate they had the balls to let friends see how he died, and what the things who created the video are all about.
 
I disagree, I don't think we need videos like this to show how evil ISIS is. I think Fox News did ISIS work for them. They will show this, but you'll never see what those car bombs did to the people in Iraq and to our troops. You'll see car parts everywhere, but you won't see parts of bodies on the streets.;
I can't decide. On the one hand, yes, they (the western media) absolutely are helping ISIS with their "advertising". I don't think there's any doubt about that.

On the other hand, sometimes I feel like we in the western world have become so isolated and sheltered that we really can't begin to comprehend what is actually going on. Maybe, for good or for bad, we *need* to be shocked into deeper understanding.

ETA: In the interest of full honesty, I have not watched it, nor do I plan to.
 
I'm with others who say it depends on their reasoning. If they are doing simply because it is news and they think people have a right to know what's really going on, then I don't have a problem with it. If they are doing it because they know people will watch it and it will drive ad revenue on their site, or if they just want to find more ways to criticize the President, then I have a serious problem with it.

Since I'll never know what their reasoning is, I'll just hope it was posted for the news value and nothing else.
 
If they are trying to stir the public into lets bomb these animals until kingdom come in order to motivate the public into endorsing another war in the middle east then it is bad.

DING DING DING !!! We have a winner.

Fox wants to incite it's audience to a greater frenzy against ISIS, and Islam in general. It is doing the neo-con agenda bidding.
 
Since I'll never know what their reasoning is, I'll just hope it was posted for the news value and nothing else.

You were doing so well until this. :)
 
You were doing so well until this. :)
There's nothing wrong with hoping for the best in others. I'll always hope for that, because I never want to be one of those who sees evil in everything. There are far too many people like that in the world, people who see evil, who see conspiracy, around every corner and in every action. Those people are sad because they will never allow themselves true happiness.

I don't want to be like that. I know Fox News doesn't have the best track record for things, but I'll still hope they posted it for the right reasons.
 
Greetings, tres borachos. :2wave:

Me neither, Tres. I don't need to see cruelty on the part of ISIS or anyone else to know it exists. When I saw the video of the gentle elephant in India with tears in his eyes as he was being freed from his shackles after 30 years of being beaten, starved, and worked to death, I sat at my computer table crying for a long time. Have some people become so used to personal misery in their life that they lose all sense of right and wrong? It's the only explanation I can come up with when I think of groups like ISIS, because no baby is born mean - it is taught to them, IMO.


For over 25 years my job was to see these things and report on them. You do not get used to it.

Few reporters like it after a few times, you see one body with half the torso blown away by a shot gun, smell it, you don't want to go back. But there is a reason we have to go. Ratings. The viewer demands to see it, maybe not you or Tres, but the majority.

These protests now from the left only come after Obama's flaccid stance on terror and his asinine "crusades" comment, and it's, gasp, Fox, the worse enemy than Islamic terror...

There is also the public right to know. The American voter needs to know it's government is losing a war as much as it might be winning, just as they need to know American troops are obeying the rules, being properly fed, equipped and protected.

The problem with the left is their concept of freedom of speech is limited to their beliefs, they object to the release of anything not on their enemies list...growing longer every day.
 
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