Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black Pres? [W:222]

Fletch · Feb 3, 2015

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Fearandloathing said:
and proof that the superior candidate is not necessarily qualified for the job.

Elections are marketing and he fooled you...twice

Well, he didn't fool me. But yes a superior candidate does not equate to a superior officeholder. No greater proof of that fact is there than Obama.

dogtowner · Feb 3, 2015

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It shows that grossly incompetant bufoons have no business being allowed in the white house.

Peter King · Feb 3, 2015

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by lack of a better option I voted "no", but I think African American presidential candidates will have it a lot tougher to get even nominated by their party in the future.

apdst · Feb 3, 2015

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MildSteel said:
It has been said repeatedly by some over the years that the United States is not ready for a black President. Is the Obama Presidency proof of this?

No! Obama's presidency proves that America isn't ready for a total ****ing idiot for president.

rocket88 · Feb 3, 2015

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tres borrachos said:
I don't see that Obama could just switch parties and be accepted by people who only defend those with an "R" behind their names. Same as there are people who wouldn't support Ted Cruz if he all of a sudden had a "D" behind his name. I love Joe Manchin - and he's a "D". I can't stand Rick Santorum - and he was an "R". I voted for my state's "D" governor a few times - while I was casting votes on the same ballot for candidates with an "R" after their names.

Some of us don't like Obama for the same reason some people didn't like Bush 41 and Bush 43 and Reagan and Clinton and Carter and Ford and so on....because we don't like the policies. His color and his party affiliation are irrelevant.

I remember when the left adored Joe Lieberman...until he supported McCain.....then he wasn't election worthy anymore.

The left and the right are pretty dead even here, rocket.

Absolutely it's not just a right wing phenomenon. No question about it. But we both know that there are people who don't like him because he's a Democrat, just like there are some people who don't like him because he's black. It's incredibly dumb to write off all criticism to that, but it's incredibly naive to think that those people don't exist.

MildSteel · Feb 3, 2015

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Redress said:
No, she is talking about polling and her support among demographic groups. That is exactly what she is talking about, literally, in so many words.

Hard working white people? Yeah right. Sounds like a page out of Lee Atwater's book.

MildSteel · Feb 3, 2015

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MMC said:
Well, we do know what the totals for the Black Vote was, and I wasn't trying to say that there weren't any that voted for him just because he was black. All have acceptance of their own race in one way or others.

Lets not forget Bush Junior is also at fault for creating the waste of Space and Money.....DHS.

I remember the first election being in the barbershop. Guys started talking about all that "messiah" stuff. I could not take it and had to say something. People got mad. So yeah, it's that way.

Poor Dubya. WOW!

MildSteel · Feb 3, 2015

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faithful_servant said:
When?? Show me a comment by a Rep. congresscritter that used Pres. Obama's race against him. Show me comment by a Rep. governor that used his race against him.

Here you go

Rep. Lamborn likens Obama to a “tar baby” - Salon.com

Even if some people say “well, the Republicans should have done this, or should have done that,” they will hold the President responsible. Now, I don’t even want to be associated with him, it’s like touching a, a tar baby

And I don't want to hear any "he meant something else" crap.

MildSteel · Feb 3, 2015

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joG said:
There are certain problems for a minority President, especially in a country with a strong issue with pc. But none of those problems is anywhere near, I would have thought, to the size problem an otherwise poor President creates.

I find that the two candidates put forward by the major parties just don't do anything for me. Politics has become such a sham, full of deceit and hate mongering.

MildSteel · Feb 3, 2015

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CanadaJohn said:
It is proof that even an idiot, with the right PR and sales pitch, can be and do anything in America. America, great land of possibilities.

Obama is anything but an idiot. That said, in my opinion, his instincts are at odds with the current constraints on the position.

MildSteel · Feb 3, 2015

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faithful_servant said:
What defines truth is that it ISN'T subjective. If it's subjective, then it's an opinion and not truth.

If I say I like big booty girls, that is an opinion, is subjective, and the truth.

MildSteel · Feb 3, 2015

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Redress said:
My thought was useless because you could find some one on the internets who agreed with your ignorant view? Really? So if I can find some one on the internets who agrees with me, does that make your thoughts useless? Might want to think about that...

It's useless because it is a poor excuse and not convincing at all.

Smeagol · Feb 3, 2015

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MildSteel said:
It has been said repeatedly by some over the years that the United States is not ready for a black President. Is the Obama Presidency proof of this?

He was elected twice. America looks ready to me. That's not to say some people lost their minds over it, but they were obviously outnumbered.

If policy didn't matter, I'd love to see a black republican elected President soon if for no other reason to once and for all make race a non-issue for being the President of any camp and my extension, any job in America. I hen look what happened. :lamo Bonus, my support for him increased the more I believed he was being treated unfairly. By 2012 I was completely disgusted by the GOP culture.

MildSteel · Feb 3, 2015

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Jack Fabulous said:
I think it really is as simple as this: If we weren't ready for a black President than we would have never elected one... TWICE!

The presidential electorate, while a part of the power structure, it quite out of the loop in terms of the practical implementation of policy.

MildSteel · Feb 3, 2015

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Smeagol said:
He was elected twice. America looks ready to me. That's not to say some people lost their minds over it, but they were obviously outnumbered.

If policy didn't matter, I'd love to see a black republican elected President soon if for no other reason to once and for all make race a non-issue for being the President of any camp and my extension, any job in America. I hen look what happened. :lamo Bonus, my support for him increased the more I believed he was being treated unfairly. By 2012 I was completely disgusted by the GOP culture.

The GOP needs some major work. Conservative ideology has it merits. But the way it is implemented in the Republican party is messed up.

Jack Fabulous · Feb 3, 2015

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MildSteel said:
The presidential electorate, while a part of the power structure, it quite out of the loop in terms of the practical implementation of policy.

What does the practical implementation of policy have to do with the question at hand?

Peter King · Feb 3, 2015

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apdst said:
No! Obama's presidency proves that America isn't ready for a total ****ing idiot for president.

Well, if Obama is an idiot, then we have been "blessed" with 16 years of idiots as presidents. Now it may not affect me as it affect many Americans, but it has affected most in the Western world. My brother in law served in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Friends served there too (or family of friends). The economic crash of 2008 has caused unemployment, lower pensions and a lot of government cutbacks.

Let's hope the next one is not going to be another "idiot". And Yes, that includes Biden (please not him), Ben Carson, Michelle Bachman, Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum, Peter King, Jeff Boss, Howard Dean, George Clooney or Rahm Emanuel.

MildSteel · Feb 3, 2015

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Jack Fabulous said:
What does the practical implementation of policy have to do with the question at hand?

Because it demonstrates how effective the President is at implementing his agenda.

MildSteel · Feb 3, 2015

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Peter King said:
Well, if Obama is an idiot, then we have been "blessed" with 16 years of idiots as presidents. Now it may not affect me as it affect many Americans, but it has affected most in the Western world. My brother in law served in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Friends served there too (or family of friends). The economic crash of 2008 has caused unemployment, lower pensions and a lot of government cutbacks.

Let's hope the next one is not going to be another "idiot". And Yes, that includes Biden (please not him), Ben Carson, Michelle Bachman, Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum, Peter King, Jeff Boss, Howard Dean, George Clooney or Rahm Emanuel.

Perhaps you have hit on something here. Maybe the problem is that only an idiot would want the job.

Peter King · Feb 3, 2015

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MildSteel said:
Perhaps you have hit on something here. Maybe the problem is that only an idiot would want the job.

I am afraid that this may be true, but please, no Santorum. The man is a liar and I have a big dislike against him. People can be anti-euthanasia as they want, but don't lie about it.

Jack Fabulous · Feb 3, 2015

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MildSteel said:
Because it demonstrates how effective the President is at implementing his agenda.

That would indicate that the agenda is the problem and not the color of his skin.

MildSteel · Feb 3, 2015

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Peter King said:
I am afraid that this may be true, but please, no Santorum. The man is a liar and I have a big dislike against him. People can be anti-euthanasia as they want, but don't lie about it.

Well you don't have to worry about that from me. That's for sure.

MildSteel · Feb 3, 2015

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Jack Fabulous said:
That would indicate that the agenda is the problem and not the color of his skin.

Not necessarily.

LowDown · Feb 3, 2015

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Paxaeon said:
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If Obama could walk on water, the political right would say "he can't swim." Why? I look at this this way, Obama is also called "Bush II" or sometimes "Bush Lite." He's more conservative than Bush and had implicitly adopted many Bush policies. Still, the political right hates him. I can only come to one conclusion as to why; Race.

If Obama turned orphans into seat covers the left wingers would compliment the stitching.

If Obama was found with a giraffe and a box of sex toys the left wingers would call him an animal lover.

If Obama was caught drinking the blood of babies the left wingers would call him a gourmet.

Obama has done plenty wrong and many of his policies have been disastrous. Not to recognize that is racist.

MildSteel · Feb 3, 2015

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LowDown said:
If Obama turned orphans into seat covers the left wingers would compliment the stitching.

If Obama was found with a giraffe and a box of sex toys the left wingers would call him an animal lover.

If Obama was caught drinking the blood of babies the left wingers would call him a gourmet.

Giraffe and sex toys??? :lamo

Maybe they would be Valentine's day gifts for Michelle!!! :lamo

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