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Would Sarah Palin be a better president than Obama?[W:81]

Would Sarah Palin be a better president than Obama?


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there are two parts to that question that many miss

if you are a pro freedom voter who opposes socialism-an INCOMPETENT do nothing left-winger is going to be better than an efficient effective socialist. and a mediocre conservative is going to be better than any sort of lefty

I don't think Palin is as smart as Obama. I don't think she is as well spoken. But I think if she were president we would be better off in the sense we would have had another Alito on the USSC rather than Kagan. we'd have far more conservative judges on lower courts. we wouldn't have executive orders that impose leftwing nonsense

so looking at the impact on America, I'd say yes
 
I'm a registered Republican. Absolutely not.

so you think after 8 years of Obama you'd like what exists vs Palin

better judges under Obama

better administration of all the bureaucracies like ATF and IRS

better executive orders

interesting
 
I used to kinda think so.

But not so much anymore.
 
so you think after 8 years of Obama you'd like what exists vs Palin

better judges under Obama

better administration of all the bureaucracies like ATF and IRS

better executive orders

interesting

I'm sure a Quayle administration would have been interesting also.
As long as GOPs are now throwing Palin under the bus, I wonder why Bush-41's VP has escaped this ridicule.
Oh yeah, he disappeared from the Public .
 
This is mostly a question for conservatives, but all are welcome to participate.

Obama has been a gigantic disappointment, but Sarah Palin would be FAR worse in every respect.
 
It would be quite refreshing to have a person in the White House who honestly speaks their mind.

We don't have that with Obama...we would have that with Palin.


in order to speak their mind, someone must have one first.
 
This is mostly a question for conservatives, but all are welcome to participate.

Depends on your definition of better. She'd certainly be a lot more entertaining.

Seriously though, in terms of policy I think she'd be a more fiscally conservative. Lower taxes especially on business and high income earners. Low domestic spending and high military spending. Federal taxes would go down but would be cancelled out by higher local and state taxes as the states would be more on their own and would result in a net tax increase she could easily deny any part in causing. She'll remain silent on social issues except a few jokes on legalizing marijuana but would appoint conservative federal judges without much comment. I'm honestly not sure about foreign policy but do not think she understands tote global situation much less changing global dynamics. I think she'd initially try to advance a 1900s type foreign policy but learn in time the world is different today. Family life would be super fun to watch. I could vote for her if she ran.
 
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It's too difficult to conceive of how anyone could do a worse job than the current asshole in the White House. The only thing worse than Barack Obama as far as I can tell would be a Barack Obama that kept his campaign promises.
 
It has nothing to do with quantity, but quality and Constitutionality. Obama is legislating by EO.

This is an interesting conversation. Are you or were you just as critical of previous presidents?
 
This is an interesting conversation. Are you or were you just as critical of previous presidents?

Nice try at deflection. Moot point. Obama is president now, and has legislated via EO for the entirety of his administration. Do you approve of that?
 
Palin has demonstrated recently that she lacks the gravitas to serve as President. Do we really want someone who holds up an "F-you" poster representing us?
 
Nice try at deflection. Moot point. Obama is president now, and has legislated via EO for the entirety of his administration. Do you approve of that?

I just think the argument loses credibility when every president since George Washington except one has issued executive orders and the record holder in our lifetime was President Reagan.

To be completely honest, I am a republican. I voted for Mike Huckabee in the 2008 primary in support for family values and the fair tax. I voted for McCain in the general election in support for social issues, in particular the life issue.

What I do not do is vote for republicans, support republicans and oppose democrats just because I'm a republican, that's my party and my supposed job is to support the team and oppose the opposition.

I noticed since 2008 many republicans cane unhinged and seem to do exactly what I do not do and in fact object to; oppose the president because he's leads the opposition. This seems apparent based on him being held to a double standard. I find little to no credibility with arguments that claim the current president is gosh-darn awful because he did "X" but saud absolutely nothing then nor now when one of their own did "X" first and/or to a greater extent. In fact, since I'm being comeplely honest, due to the high level of osupposed outrage over the persistent doing various "X" that they had no problem then nor now when our side did the same things sometimes including dishonesty, I highly suspect these are only masks and their real problem is something else the rules do political correctness prevent them from openly acknowledging.

Do I disapprove of presudential executive orders? I'd never considered the question until Obama opponents brought it up. I don't think they're the best way to get laws enacted in a perfect world. As long as there's judicial review and the ability for congress to repeal them, I don't think its the end of the world. My favorite executive order is the emancipation proclamation. Not perfect but a step in the right direction.
 
Nice try at deflection. Moot point. Obama is president now, and has legislated via EO for the entirety of his administration. Do you approve of that?


So can you give examples of prior presidents and EO's that you found acceptable?


Also, the past comparison is perfectly germane if the topic (as was raised) that Obama is terrible with use of EO --- when history indicates the alternative would be as bad or worse.
 
Q:Would Sarah Palin be a better president than Obama?
A: A bowl of wax fruit would be a better president than Obama.
 
+1 on inanimate objects being an upgrade.

Obama is on my ignore list.
 
This is mostly a question for conservatives, but all are welcome to participate.

Palin is not the ideal candidate. She was unfairly treated when she ran for vice president and her brand suffered as a result.

Having said that, it's difficult to imagine a worse president than Obama. His muddled pro Muslim policy is making the world a more dangerous place. His progressive economic policies have slowed our economic recovery, leaving us with more unemployed, and record numbers of people in poverty on food stamps. Our economic recovery is due to energy development on public land which he opposes but took credit for.

With Palin, who was an effective and popular governor until the attack dogs went after her, I thing you would at least get someone who is firm in support of our allies, strong in opposing our enemies and someone who. as the governor of a state supported by energy development, would put a comprehensive policy to rationally deal with our energy production and needs.

Having said that, there are many more in the Republican field who are more electable. Personally though, most are unacceptable to me personally.
 
Palin is not the ideal candidate. She was unfairly treated when she ran for vice president and her brand suffered as a result.

In what respect, sawdust?

Having said that, it's difficult to imagine a worse president than Obama. His muddled pro Muslim territory is making the world a more dangerous place.
what?

His progressive economic policies have slowed our economic recovery, leaving us with more unemployed,
this is patently false.

and record numbers of people in poverty on food stamps.

if you look at numbers devoid of context, for example.

Our economic recovery is due to energy development on public land which he opposes but took credit for.
citations needed

With Palin, who was an effective and popular governor until the attack dogs went after her, I thing you would at least get someone who is firm in support of our allies, strong in opposing our enemies and someone who. as the governor of a state supported by energy development, would put a comprehensive policy to rationally deal with our energy production and needs.
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she wouldn't even know who our allies are. "drill baby drill" isn't rational. And one of her most effective deeds was to quit.
 
Having been largely actively destructive, the question isn't whether Palin would be "better" (indicating net positive) than Obama, but rather would she be "better" (indicating relative improvement) than Obama.

In which case the answer is most assuredly yes. We would not have an ACA with a President Palin. We would have had smaller deficits with a President Palin. We would not have had an administrative attack on the energy sector with a President Palin. We would not have had an effective-amnesty immigration policy with a President APWe would have a foreign policy with a President Palin.

Would she have been net positive? That's I think up for reasonable debate. But comparing her to the current administration is an incredibly low bar to clear. It's like asking if she would be able to run a marathon faster while pushing Trig in a stroller than I could while sitting on my couch eating ice cream.
 
I'm sure a Quayle administration would have been interesting also.
As long as GOPs are now throwing Palin under the bus, I wonder why Bush-41's VP has escaped this ridicule.
Oh yeah, he disappeared from the Public .

actually Quayle was pretty competent as a senator and not bad VP. He actually had more credentials in 88 than Obama had in 08
 
In what respect, sawdust?

what?


this is patently false.



if you look at numbers devoid of context, for example.

citations needed



she wouldn't even know who our allies are. "drill baby drill" isn't rational. And one of her most effective deeds was to quit.

What you ask. Do you believe that Pailin said she can see Russia from her house or that she doesn't read any news? The first quote was from SNL and used to portray her as stupid, which was a common theme in the media.

Patently false, nonsense. He supported the overthrow of Gaddafi in Lybia, who at the time while not a friend of the US, was not anti US and as a result, now Lybia is in the control of radical Islamists. Mubarak was pro western and Obama supported his overthrow in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood who for all intents supports terrorist organizations. Everyone recognizes his failed pull out of Iraq which facilitated the growth of ISIS. I can't even describe the lunacy of his policy toward Syria, which strengthen Russian involvement in the Middle East and emboldened Iran. Obama is a mess in the middle east.

If you want research on food stamps, the labor participation rate and numbers of unemployed, look them up yourself, assuming you can operate google.

Any rational and honest person knows that to be elected governor of a state you can't be stupid. Your comment about not knowing who are allies are is just a continuation of the disparagement that Palin has suffered in the media by people who claim there is a war on women, as they issue their own slurs against women. In addition, the recent economic rebound, despite declining orders for durable goods and big ticket items is the result of people having more disposable income due to the decrease in gas prices. The stock market bubble is the result of six years of pumping by the Fed. When that stops and interest rates rise, watch what happens to the market. We've had a recovery from near depression which is the longest in American history because Obama cares more about redistribution than he does about economic growth. I've never hoped for failure of his economic policies, but as I looked at them, I've never seen one which I thought was intelligent.

The best energy policy is an all of the above policy. Alternative energy is worth pursuing however there's not much of it ready for market. A war on coal, instead of promoting clean coal technologies is just ignorant seeing we have more coal than any other nation. The investment this nation has made in bankrupt alternative energy companies should tell you something.
 
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