sawdust
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So you were being intellectually dishonest.
No, just amusing myself Saturday morning.
So you were being intellectually dishonest.
Odd, I would find someone who uses the word "firearm" when discussing the 2A to be too dishonest to argue with.
that makes no sense whatsoever
I am sorry you didn't understand the point
firearms are a type of arm which is clearly protected from government restrictions by the 2A
I'm sincerely amazed by the Poll turnout. I know DP members are heavily Republican and Conservative
and that is the antiehesis of Green politics. If the Poll numbers are correct, then we have a very large
participation by non-members. I would like to think that is the factual case. Both for the readership and
the participation.
Is that a litmus issue for you?
where do Greens and the Dem leadership actually differ other than on magnitude
she's a gun banner-so is Obama
She's a tax hiker-so is Obama
she wants to get rid of coal-so does Obama
etc
Her positions are not shared by most Americans, that I'll tell ya confidently.
But then, the Green party's "eco-socialism" shouldn't be taken seriously, should it?
Since Green party members are. by necessity, extremist lefties with a crazed environmentalist bent and could not be more opposite to the free market, free people principles of libertarianism, there are no circumstances under which I would offer any support for this candidate.
I do not understand how anyone could waver between a libertarian and the literal opposite of a libertarian, unless they were only voting on superficial matters irrelevant to the issue stances the candidates hold.
The platforms of most third parties are not shared by most Americans, that's why they keep losing pathetically.
I think most people are not aware of third party stances because they don't own a mega phone.
This only poses an issue when people confuse any platform with free market fundamentalism.
If third parties appealed to a goodly number of Americans, they'd get more money in donations and therefore, could buy a megaphone. That they cannot shows that nobody want to give them money.
It's hard to confuse actually respecting the human right to property and individual liberty versus being a collectivist authoritarian (but I repeat myself) who does not.
Let's be perfectly honest. Most money from the Dem or Rep party comes from deep pockets and not from grass roots initiatives.
And where are the deep pockets that support third parties? They don't exist? Because the platforms do not attract such deep pocket supporters. You really can't spin it any other way, you're just making excuses.
I'm glad they are not supported by deep pockets and are mostly supported by grass root initiatives. That speaks volumes for who they support.
It also means they have no shot in hell of ever getting elected.
Sadly, I agree. It also illustrates how corrupt our political system is because it has been hijack by the highest bidders.
Since Green party members are. by necessity, extremist lefties with a crazed environmentalist bent and could not be more opposite to the free market, free people principles of libertarianism, there are no circumstances under which I would offer any support for this candidate.
To be clear, I don't like the GOP at large because they are too accommodating of unconstitutional leftist notions like the welfare state and entitlement programs. The LP is an uncompromising rightist party.
I do not understand how anyone could waver between a libertarian and the literal opposite of a libertarian, unless they were only voting on superficial matters irrelevant to the issue stances the candidates hold.
I'm a Green, so this post sucked me in like a black hole. I would definitely vote for Jill Stein. I will do
whatever is necessary to build a viable third party to make people realize that if they keep voting for a
two-headed coin of Dems/Pepubs, they will keep getting the same thing. What more needs to be said?
Politics is inherently a popularity contest. You support someone who isn't popular. You shouldn't be surprised that she will never win, she has nothing in her platform that would make people vote for her, even if they knew everything about her. Welcome to reality.