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Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Read first

Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Read first


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Re: Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Read fir

Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Fredrick Douglas, Nat Turner, Harriet Tubman, Martian Luther King Jr and so on.

Before anyone says we only put presidents on our currency, Here are some examples-

Ben Franklin $100 and a .50 coin
Alexander Hamilton $10
Susan B Anthony $1
Sacagawea $1
Chief Onepapa: $5 silver certificate
Daniel Webster: $10 United States note
Lews & Clark: $10 United States Note
VP Thomas Hendricks: $10 Silver Certificate
Michael Hillegas, 1st US Treasurer: $10 Gold Certificate
Former Treasury Secretary Hugh McCulloch: $20 National Bank Note
Former Comptroller of the currency John J. Knox, $50 National Bank Note
Thomas Hart Benton, $100 Gold Certificate
Former Chief Justice John Marshall, $500 Federal Reserve Note
Various 1st ladies on $10 dollar gold coins
Booker T. Washinton .50 cent commemorative coin



I say yes. Their contributions to this country are just as important as the other people we put on our currency.PLus if we can put state symbols, animals and other things on our currency surely we can put black civil rights and other historical figures on our currency.

Wasn't Booker T. black? Anyway, I said maybe. Blacks should be on 14% of our currency but I cannot decide if that is currency total in circulation or just 14% of the types of currency available. I will have to think on it awhile.
 
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Please link to the exact sentence in which jamesrage says "black civil rights leaders and ONLY black civil rights leaders." You do realize that arguing for one thing does not preclude supporting other things?

You're really gonna carry on with this mishegoss?

You do realize that my question was why he wasn't arguing for the entirety of historical and civil rights icons instead of just a specific, the black one right? You did pick up on that? No, I don't think you did otherwise you wouldn't be wasting my time on this BS.

So, while I never said that he was against others I did ask why wasn't he promoting all instead of one. He didn't put forth an agenda for all he only put forth one for a specific group, the black race. Further I asked why we weren't identifying these people all people by what they did rather than the color of their skin, did you read that part too or did you miss it in your attempt to mischaracterize my position and set up some Aunt Sally BS?
 
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Wasn't Booker T. black?

Yes,But he was on a commemorative coin that most people are not even aware exists.His portrait shares that coin with George Washinton Carver.
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You're really gonna carry on with this mishegoss?

You do realize that my question was why he wasn't arguing for the entirety of historical and civil rights icons instead of just a specific, the black one right? You did pick up on that? No, I don't think you did otherwise you wouldn't be wasting my time on this BS.

So, while I never said that he was against others I did ask why wasn't he promoting all instead of one. He didn't put forth an agenda for all he only put forth one for a specific group, the black race. Further I asked why we weren't identifying these people all people by what they did rather than the color of their skin, did you read that part too or did you miss it in your attempt to mischaracterize my position and set up some Aunt Sally BS?

Your initial response was "No," with no explanation. Just a reminder.

Again, arguing for, say, MLK is not an argument against, say, Cesar Chavez. Also, we ARE identifying them by what they did. It's not like anyone's arguing to put Lil' Wayne on the 20.
 
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Your initial response was "No," with no explanation. Just a reminder.

Again, arguing for, say, MLK is not an argument against, say, Cesar Chavez. Also, we ARE identifying them by what they did. It's not like anyone's arguing to put Lil' Wayne on the 20.

I'm not nor have I ever said a no for MLK is a yes for Chavez or vice versa. I elaborated at your prompting why my no was my no. I'll point to the thread title again and accentuate the word "black". That isn't identifying them by race?

As I said, I'd gladly have a myriad of Americans on the currency of any and all races -- I don't carry cash, couldn't tell you the last time I did. But even if I walked around with a gangster roll in my pocket I don't care who has their likeness on there. I'm just not supportive of some patronizing, token, symbolic gesture of appeasement or acknowledgement and I certainly am not supportive of doing so when race is so prominently represented as a praxis or pretense -- as if doing this will some how as if by magic bring a new dawn over American race relations.
 
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Yes,But he was on a commemorative coin that most people are not even aware exists.His portrait shares that coin with George Washinton Carver.
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What's it worth?

Peanuts...

:lamo

(I thought it was funny...)
 
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Yes,But he was on a commemorative coin that most people are not even aware exists.His portrait shares that coin with George Washinton Carver.
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Just my opinion, but commemorative coins don't count the same as currency intended for everyday use.
 
Re: Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Read fir

I think the faces on on our money should be changed every 5 to 10 years or so. I would like to see MLK on a bill but I would also like to see other people who have contributed greatly, such as scientists.
 
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Yes no reason not too, of course it doesnt HAVE to be done but im fine with it if it is.
 
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Wasn't Booker T. black? Anyway, I said maybe. Blacks should be on 14% of our currency but I cannot decide if that is currency total in circulation or just 14% of the types of currency available. I will have to think on it awhile.

What about non black civil rights leaders?
 
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Oh, I see...:wink2:

Wha?? :lamo

See post #41

But it isn't, so I won't.

It really is, considering you built a gigantic strawman regarding what I think of latinos. I addressed the example you gave. Cesar Chavez, a figure reviled by the right wing.

Yes, your whole presumptuous position is just that. Nonsense.

Says the guy trying to pit one race against another when it comes to who should be on the currency. Remember, you're the one who has an objection to blacks being currency because other groups aren't being considered in the same breath.
 
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I'm down. Andrew Jackson and Alexander Hamilton both, I think, could stand to be replaced.
 
Re: Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Read fir

See post #41



It really is, considering you built a gigantic strawman regarding what I think of latinos. I addressed the example you gave. Cesar Chavez, a figure reviled by the right wing.



Says the guy trying to pit one race against another when it comes to who should be on the currency. Remember, you're the one who has an objection to blacks being currency because other groups aren't being considered in the same breath.

the only strawman built has been by your hands, you've added wicker here in this post...

The point I made is plain for all to see, if you can't understand it my repeating it won't help you. You've got to put in the effort.

Good Day.

:2wave:
 
Re: Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Read fir

Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Fredrick Douglas, Nat Turner, Harriet Tubman, Martian Luther King Jr and so on.

Before anyone says we only put presidents on our currency, Here are some examples-

Ben Franklin $100 and a .50 coin
Alexander Hamilton $10
Susan B Anthony $1
Sacagawea $1
Chief Onepapa: $5 silver certificate
Daniel Webster: $10 United States note
Lews & Clark: $10 United States Note
VP Thomas Hendricks: $10 Silver Certificate
Michael Hillegas, 1st US Treasurer: $10 Gold Certificate
Former Treasury Secretary Hugh McCulloch: $20 National Bank Note
Former Comptroller of the currency John J. Knox, $50 National Bank Note
Thomas Hart Benton, $100 Gold Certificate
Former Chief Justice John Marshall, $500 Federal Reserve Note
Various 1st ladies on $10 dollar gold coins
Booker T. Washinton .50 cent commemorative coin



I say yes. Their contributions to this country are just as important as the other people we put on our currency.PLus if we can put state symbols, animals and other things on our currency surely we can put black civil rights and other historical figures on our currency.

I asked this of the wrong member. Over to you.
 
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What about non black civil rights leaders?

You should put them on currency in proportion to their races' share of the population. Since we have a limited variety of currency, I suggest we first look for two-fers or three-fers.
 
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If it spend's and stays green,the people with the most money want care. I say yes!:peace
 
Re: Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Read fir

the only strawman built has been by your hands, you've added wicker here in this post...

Says the guy who insinuated that I had something against latinos because I said Cesar Chavez was reviled by the right wing. Do you really want to go down this embarrassing road? You specifically used the Cesar Chavez example, when I addressed right wing views on him, you tried to turn my statement into a dislike for hispanics. It doesn't get sillier than that.
 
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Re: Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Read fir

Ashamed to say I've never thought about it... can't even recite from memory who's on our currency... but absolutely, I'd be all for it.
 
Re: Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Read fir

I want to see George Takei on a new $3 bill.

Thats not right. Made me laugh anyway.
 
Re: Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Read fir

Says the guy who insinuated that I had something against latinos because I said Cesar Chavez was reviled by the right wing. Do you really want to go down this embarrassing road? You specifically used the Cesar Chavez example, when I addressed right wing views on him, you tried to turn my statement into a dislike for hispanics. It doesn't get sillier than that.

WOW do you buy that straw wholesale?
 
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WOW do you buy that straw wholesale?

Latino's are reviled? Oh, you're confusing Latino's with Illegals. All Latino's are illegals in your book?

You're having trouble with your silly insinuations, aren't you?
 
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You should put them on currency in proportion to their races' share of the population. Since we have a limited variety of currency, I suggest we first look for two-fers or three-fers.
Why a racial proportion. Should be based upon the person, should it not.
 
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Why a racial proportion. Should be based upon the person, should it not.

The person is chosen in accordance with their fame, but the quota has to be set on the racial proportion. We can't be having no straight white heterosexual christian money.
 
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The person is chosen in accordance with their fame, but the quota has to be set on the racial proportion. We can't be having no straight white heterosexual christian money.
You believe in racial quotas for this.
An other areas where you support racial quotas?

United States Demographics Profile 2014
white 79.96%, black 12.85%, Asian 4.43%, Amerindian and Alaska native 0.97%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.18%, two or more races 1.61% (July 2007 estimate)
note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean persons of Spanish/Hispanic/Latino origin including those of Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, Dominican Republic, Spanish, and Central or South American origin living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.); about 15.1% of the total US population is Hispanic
So white approx 80 - Approx 13 % black - Approx 15 % Hispanic

So Native Americans, making up under 1 % would be at the bottom of the woodpile.
 
Re: Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Read fir

You believe in racial quotas for this.
An other areas where you support racial quotas?

United States Demographics Profile 2014
white 79.96%, black 12.85%, Asian 4.43%, Amerindian and Alaska native 0.97%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.18%, two or more races 1.61% (July 2007 estimate)
note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean persons of Spanish/Hispanic/Latino origin including those of Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, Dominican Republic, Spanish, and Central or South American origin living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.); about 15.1% of the total US population is Hispanic
So white approx 80 - Approx 13 % black - Approx 15 % Hispanic

So Native Americans, making up under 1 % would be at the bottom of the woodpile.

As I indicated, we can look for two-fers. Obama is a black-white, kenyan-Hawaiian, Muslim-Christian and possibly gay depending on which stories you believe. He is like a 7-fer
 
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