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Do you support the legalization of prostitution?

Do you support the legalization of prostitution?


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Why not they are taxing everything else these days? Plus you'd know you paid for the ? :applaud...:lol:
 
I think George said it best.

George Carlin "I don't understand why prostitution is illegal. Selling is legal. ****ing is legal. Why isn't selling ****ing legal? You know, why should it be illegal to sell something that's perfectly legal to give away? I can't follow the logic on that one at all! Of all the things you can do, giving someone an orgasm is hardly the worst thing in the world. In the army they give you a medal for spraying napalm on people! In civilian life you go to jail for giving someone an orgasm! Maybe I'm not supposed to understand it..."
Well Mr. Carlin, when you let people sell it, that creates a demand so massive it far outweighs the supply, and so to fill that supply, cartels kidnap women and bring them to market. This, Mr. Carlin, is called "human trafficking", you may want to Google it between acts.

Cartels don't move sex-slaves when there's no money in it, and that's why it's ok to give sex away for free.

The most legal prostitution should be, is to be like torrents where it's technically illegal but you really have to go out of your way and be a major pain to key players before you're ever prosecuted. Simply put, the DA should just not prosecute petty prostitution charges. There should never be a licensed prostitution industry. If people want to participate in an app where sex is advertised with a 'suggested tip' just like Lyft, but no payment is required, then Uncle Same should turn a blind eye.
 
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Well Mr. Carlin, when you let people sell it, that creates a demand so massive it far outweighs the supply, and so to fill that supply, cartels kidnap women and bring them to market. This, Mr. Carlin, is called "human trafficking", you may want to Google it between acts.

Cartels don't move sex-slaves when there's no money in it, and that's why it's ok to give sex away for free.

The most legal prostitution should be, is to be like torrents where it's technically illegal but you really have to go out of your way and be a major pain to key players before you're ever prosecuted. Simply put, the DA should just not prosecute petty prostitution charges. There should never be a licensed prostitution industry. If people want to participate in an app where sex is advertised with a 'suggested tip' just like Lyft, but no payment is required, then Uncle Same should turn a blind eye.




In the interest of a value added benefit, legalizing prostitution would inevitably be followed by taxing prostitution.

You get screwed twice in every transaction!

What a country!
 
Though I would vote "no", I think it should be a local issue at the county level. As a result, I would be accepting of legalized prostitution.
 
Are you sure you're not projecting? Not sure what any of those things have to do with not sleeping with prostitutes.

I doubt it, I've never hired a hooker in my life. I did strike out at the bar pretty badly last night though, lol. But I usually do alright.

At the end of the day, I think prostitution does more harm than people realize, both to the women involved and to society at large.
 
You'd probably be surprised at the results. There are quite a number of people out there that will support the freedom of another person to go out to do things that they do not wish to do or even find repulsive. It's a little thing we call freedom.

First, drop the snark. "Freedom" is not quite as simple a concept as you make it out to be. You're not, for example, free to do harm to others. And in this case, I believe that the women involved in prostitution and society at large are harmed by prostitution.

So it's not simply a question of freedom, it's a question of creating a fair and just society that benefits everyone.
 
First, drop the snark. "Freedom" is not quite as simple a concept as you make it out to be. You're not, for example, free to do harm to others. And in this case, I believe that the women involved in prostitution and society at large are harmed by prostitution.

So it's not simply a question of freedom, it's a question of creating a fair and just society that benefits everyone.

Actually one does have the freedom to harm another....if the other consents. Freedom never stands alone. It is coupled with rights. Your freedom to something ends where another's rights begin. But with that come others having the freedom and rights to do things you may find repulsive. Simply because you feel that said action is harmful, does not make that so. The default should be towards freedom, so the burden of proof is upon the supposed harm. So what evidence do you present to show the harm of legalized prostitution? Any example of problems from illegal prostitution do not count as that is not where we are seeking to find harm. Also keep in mind that there are many activities that hold a high potential for harm that we still allow legally anyway. Boxing, football, skydiving just to name a few.
 
I support it being legal under certain health related circumstances. The prostitute would have to get 'registered' and certified as being std free (periodic testing) and condoms would be a must. If it's discovered these conditions weren't met, arrests can be made. In theory, the clients would know who to avoid, if the prostitute's not on the register.
 
I support it being legal under certain health related circumstances. The prostitute would have to get 'registered' and certified as being std free (periodic testing) and condoms would be a must. If it's discovered these conditions weren't met, arrests can be made. In theory, the clients would know who to avoid, if the prostitute's not on the register.

How many doctors, plumbers, etc do you check to see if they are actually registered and licensed as they are supposed to be? Do you know any one who does?
 
If you despise prostitutes and want them hit with taxes, why do you want it legalized? Illegal prostitutes are required to pay income tax. Why should they be taxed more?

Where did I say I despise prostitutes? Find me the quote. I'll wait.
 
Does a plumber or electrician get to keep the majority of the fee from any given job when they are under the employ of another? Or to move to a more service oriented job, does an accountant get to keep a majority of the fee for the client that he solely handles? No, so why should the prostitute who is working for someone else be any different? If it is a business the it is a business and should be run as such. Now one who is self employed of course will keep a majority of their money, but when you work for someone else, the worker is not the one who keeps the majority of the money for any given transaction, but it retail, food service, plumbing, or sex trade.

Yeah, the plumber and electrician also aren't kept in a house against their will and beaten if they don't work. They also have legal recourse if the employer decides not to pay them. Your comparisons are absolutely ridiculous.
 
How many doctors, plumbers, etc do you check to see if they are actually registered and licensed as they are supposed to be? Do you know any one who does?

Well no, that's a good point. However, if there were an accurate online database that could be used to basically pick a prostitute that doesn't have STD, i think there is more at stake than asserting my doctor has a medical license, when that doctor must have a license as condition of employment. There is no such vetting process for prostitutes/STDs that i'm aware of. Shoving them underground is a huge reason for that.
 
Yeah, the plumber and electrician also aren't kept in a house against their will and beaten if they don't work. They also have legal recourse if the employer decides not to pay them. Your comparisons are absolutely ridiculous.

Not all prostitutes are being kept in a house against their will and beaten if they don't work. There are many - and I mean MANY - that do it because they want to.
 
Not all prostitutes are being kept in a house against their will and beaten if they don't work.

No one said they all were, however, there is a large and sizeable number of prostitutes who are. Legalization and taxation will do absolutely nothing to help them.
 
Yeah, the plumber and electrician also aren't kept in a house against their will and beaten if they don't work. They also have legal recourse if the employer decides not to pay them. Your comparisons are absolutely ridiculous.

No one said they all were, however, there is a large and sizeable number of prostitutes who are. Legalization and taxation will do absolutely nothing to help them.

Actually legalization will help them as they then have legal recourse if they are not paid. That aside hold someone against their will is illegal regarless of whether prostitution is involved or not, so such is not an argument, espeically not on the point which we were discussing in this subthread; why should a prostitute be allowed to keep a majority of her fee, assuming prostitution is legal, when no other workers in other fields are allowed to?
 
Well no, that's a good point. However, if there were an accurate online database that could be used to basically pick a prostitute that doesn't have STD, i think there is more at stake than asserting my doctor has a medical license, when that doctor must have a license as condition of employment. There is no such vetting process for prostitutes/STDs that i'm aware of. Shoving them underground is a huge reason for that.

If the prostitute has an STD then by the suggested regulations they would not be allowed to be a licensed prostitute, so would they still be in the database as active? Of course there currently is no vetting process for prostitutes since they are currently illegal. As to the doctors, there are those who operate without licenses at times, and other professions where people operate without licenses. That's where the legal charge of operating without a licenses comes from.
 
Actually legalization will help them as they then have legal recourse if they are not paid.

This has already been proven to be utter nonsense. There are thousands of women in Germany where prostitution is legal and they have absolutely no legal recourse because police officers are paid off by their pimps and handlers. If you want to continue spewing libertarian nonsense, at least base your statements on facts and not ideology.
 
No one said they all were, however, there is a large and sizeable number of prostitutes who are. Legalization and taxation will do absolutely nothing to help them.

There is a large number of women who are being held by their husbands against their will and beaten too. Yet marriage isn't illegal. There are kids who are being locked in closets and beaten. Yes it's legal to have a child in this country. You're talking about illegal confinement. You can always find exceptions to the norm. No, legalization of prostitution won't help anyone who is being beaten or held against their will. But I don't think I've seen anyone make the argument for legalizing prostitution and saying it should be done to help free women who are being beaten.
 
There is a large number of women who are being held by their husbands against their will and beaten too. Yet marriage isn't illegal.

Shipping in your wife from another country and putting her to work by beating her brains out is illegal. This is the situation of many women all over European countries where prostitution is in fact legal. Making prostitution legal won't stop any of that as proven by studies in Germany. Again, if safety of women is the concern here, there are a myriad of things that legalization won't do for women. Do you have any other ridiculous comparisons? I'd love to address them.

PS: Forcing people into prostitution and marriage have nothing to do with each other.
 
This has already been proven to be utter nonsense. There are thousands of women in Germany where prostitution is legal and they have absolutely no legal recourse because police officers are paid off by their pimps and handlers. If you want to continue spewing libertarian nonsense, at least base your statements on facts and not ideology.

Coruption is a different matter altogether and is a problem in areas way beyond prostitution. Are you trying to say that all the prostitutes in Germany are held against their will? A majority? There are laws to protect real estate renters (Apartments and such) but does that stop slum lords from paying off those who would otherwise protect the renters? Should we not bother with such laws since those people are going to be paid off anyway?
 
If the prostitute has an STD then by the suggested regulations they would not be allowed to be a licensed prostitute, so would they still be in the database as active? Of course there currently is no vetting process for prostitutes since they are currently illegal. As to the doctors, there are those who operate without licenses at times, and other professions where people operate without licenses. That's where the legal charge of operating without a licenses comes from.

They would be removed from the database/lose their 'prostitution license' in that case

I think it's a safe bet that in reputable medical offices, such as hospitals, specialists, and primary care, there are far fewer 'rogue professionals' than there are prostitutes who could be avoided under the proposed system due to having stds. No system is immune to fraud, but the point is to *minimize* it

And stds aren't simply a matter of 'informed consent' but a public health issue. Therefore it's appropriate to keep that form of prostitution illegal
 
Shipping in your wife from another country and putting her to work by beating her brains out is illegal. This is the situation of many women all over European countries where prostitution is in fact legal. Making prostitution legal won't stop any of that as proven by studies in Germany. Again, if safety of women is the concern here, there are a myriad of things that legalization won't do for women. Do you have any other ridiculous comparisons? I'd love to address them.

PS: Forcing people into prostitution and marriage have nothing to do with each other.

Do your studies show where legalization caused such situations, or are these simply situations that still exist after legalization? Has the situation improved any, even slightly or are even more people being held against their will after legalization? Links to these studies?
 
Coruption is a different matter altogether

If you REALLY don't understand how prostitution works, then yes "corruption" is another matter. However, if you do understand it, you realize all of these problems are part of the same issue. Again, if you're going to be discussing how to help women don't start off with nonsensical ideological crap like legalization will help them get paid. The reality is that there are literally tens of thousands of women in the US who are kept subjugated by men through violence. Making prostitution legal won't make these women ask for better wages and dental plans. That's simply not how it works. As a matter of fact, it will drive forced prostitution even further underground and women will be more closely monitored. Again, this isn't something you fix with ideological slogans because there it's far more complex than that.
 
Shipping in your wife from another country and putting her to work by beating her brains out is illegal. This is the situation of many women all over European countries where prostitution is in fact legal. Making prostitution legal won't stop any of that as proven by studies in Germany. Again, if safety of women is the concern here, there are a myriad of things that legalization won't do for women. Do you have any other ridiculous comparisons? I'd love to address them.

PS: Forcing people into prostitution and marriage have nothing to do with each other.

I didn't know I was talking about Germany. I was talking about the United States. I also didn't know I was talking about mail order brides. Are they the only wives in this country who get beaten?
 
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