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Do you support the legalization of prostitution?

Do you support the legalization of prostitution?


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Your message is absurd. You listed numerous restrictive laws you wanted added against prostitution. It looks like your going to go into a rage to divert from the reality of what you posted.

LMAO another dodge and ZERO facts that support your posted lie. again please present ONE in your next post . . one
I bet you continue to dodge this request

your posts fails and facts win again
 
I'm saying what I said, quoting what you said, and also agreeing with Hatuey's point too.

please continue to qoute me, because the FACT remains each time you do it continues to prove the lie you posted wrong, thank you
facts win again
 
1.)well him further repeating the lie that i want it illegal disagrees with your thoughts. If he would like to change his false and proven wrong claim to what you said he is free to do so
2.) while i dont disagree that is also meanignless to the fact that i want it legal :shrug:

do you disagree, do you think any of that impacts the fact that i want it legal?

I think your approach is far more likely to make illegal prostitution far more profitable for the average pimp. Why would they pay taxes on a whore when they could just as easily keep her locked up in some basement and pay no taxes? It's not as if we have a culture of people who want to pay taxes. Americans simply hate taxes, and a prostitution tax would be no different. Hundreds of thousands would find a way around it, and that's just a conservative estimate. Far more women then I'm willing to risk so I can make my political leans feel comfortable.
 
Prostitution and human trafficking have everything to do with one another. Human trafficking provides the product required for prostitution to thrive. That's a simple fact proven already by that shining example of in Europe. :shrug:

Good thing! Imagine if they made legal? It would disappear within a week! Right? Give way to... I don't know... legal human trafficking in a way where the state taxes for every piece of human being you bring in? What was that called when the US did it?

See: Links on Germany's failed efforts into prostitution, that statement is proven absolutely false.

I see that you aren't interested in facts or the truth here. You're seeing what you want to see, even when it's not there.
 
I think your approach is far more likely to make illegal prostitution far more profitable for the average pimp. Why would they pay taxes on a whore when they could just as easily keep her locked up in some basement and pay no taxes? It's not as if we have a culture of people who want to pay taxes. Americans simply hate taxes, and a prostitution tax would be no different. Hundreds of thousands would find a way around it, and that's just a conservative estimate. Far more women then I'm willing to risk so I can make my political leans feel comfortable.

so yes you agree with the fact that it has ZERO barring on the fact that i want it legal, thanks
 
I see that you aren't interested in facts or the truth here. You're seeing what you want to see, even when it's not there.

Prostitution and human traffic are intrinsically connected. One thrives as the result of the other. That you fail to see this is your problem, I've no time for people want to start a conversation with "human traffic doesn't support prostitution" when I just posted a whole bunch of evidence showing it does so in Europe's "success stories" like Germany.
 
so yes you agree with the fact that it has ZERO barring on the fact that i want it legal, thanks

You're right, you haven't stated you want it illegal, however the legalization you're proposing is far more likely to keep it illegal. That's what joko's salient point was. I think what he meant is that while you may pretend you want it legalized, the measures you support simply don't reflect those wishes. They reflect the exact opposite.
 
would it still be legal? YEP

hey lets further destory your failed claim

is driving legal? yep
but can a 12yr old legally drive? nope
can an illegal legally drive? nope
can one legally drive without a licenses? nope
etc etc etc

again instead of dodging it, if you disagree PLEASE present ONE single FACT that supports your failed and destroyed claim that i want it illegal . . . one . . thank you
your post fails and facts win again

I am aware of your debate style and nonsensical arguing to argue, but I'll go another round.

1. Prostitution is not illegal. Only illegal prostitution is illegal. There are far less hoops to jump thru for legal prostitution than you new illegalities list-so-long you can't even name them all.

2. You want many laws against prostitution that do not now exist.

3. You want more agencies punitively enforcing prostitution laws you want created.

4. In addition, by pushing it further underground by more law enforcement agencies involved and greater lists of punishments, you also make it more illegal.

Creating more laws outlawing prostitution than exists and more government people with punitive power, you want to make illegal prostitution less legal than it is now.

Making more laws against something with more people enforcing those laws is not reasonably called legalizing it.

What you actually want in practical terms is the government to force prostitutes to have the government be their pimp - and then assert that government would be a good pimp.
 
The REAL poll question wasn't asked:

"Should it be illegal for prostitutes to not register themselves as prostitutes with local, state and federal government?"

That's what the calls for "regulating" prostitution FIRST require.

Then the newspaper can print who all the prostitutes are and it put online as a permanent record about that person too. The moralists need to know who those hellbound prostitutes corrupting their children and destroying their marriages are, to know who to stay away from, who to picket and who to harass and threaten. Who to run out of their neighborhood and town. Who to curse and condemn in church services and political campaigns.

It also then is the duty to protect everyone from the potential that they might be dating someone who was a prostitute 30 years before and failed to divulge this. Certainly that should be required public disclosure to many on this thread. OMG, without that someone who was a prostitute in the past might actually be able to get a regular job someday and certainly all children should know if their mom was a hooker.

I disagree with all that. Vehemently.
 
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I am aware of your debate style and nonsensical arguing to argue, but I'll go another round.

1. Prostitution is not illegal. Only illegal prostitution is illegal. There are far less hoops to jump thru for legal prostitution than you new illegalities list-so-long you can't even name them all.

2. You want many laws against prostitution that do not now exist.

3. You want more agencies punitively enforcing prostitution laws you want created.

4. In addition, by pushing it further underground by more law enforcement agencies involved and greater lists of punishments, you also make it more illegal.

Creating more laws outlawing prostitution than exists and more government people with punitive power, you want to make illegal prostitution less legal than it is now.

Making more laws against something with more people enforcing those laws is not reasonably called legalizing it.

What you actually want in practical terms is the government to force prostitutes to have the government be their pimp - and then assert that government would be a good pimp.
bam another dodge!
translation: you still have ZERO facts that support your failed, destroyed and proven wrong claim that i want it illegal, thanks for further proving that.
nobody is interested in your subjective OPINIONS of what your think I want only FACTS matter and all the facts prove your lie to be wrong and no amount of dishonest, illogical ranting will change that fact

AGAIN if you disagree, please in your next post simply provide for us ONE single fact that supports your false claim that i want it illegal . . . ONE . . thank you
until you can do this or admit you posted a lie each of your continued posts on this matter will continue to fail and further expose your failed claim lol

Your posts fails and Fact wins again
 
1.)You're right, you haven't stated you want it illegal
2.), however the legalization you're proposing is far more likely to keep it illegal.
3.) That's what joko's salient point was.
4.) I think what he meant is that while you may pretend you want it legalized, the measures you support simply don't reflect those wishes. They reflect the exact opposite.

1.) 100% correct ding ding ding we have a winner
2.) you are free to have this opinion
3.) you are free to have this opinion also it wont change the fact he posted a lie or something that was factually not true as facts proved and you already pointed out yourself.
4.) again doesnt change the fact that what he said was 100% false, his opinions (and yours and mine for that matter) dont change the facts. Like i said if he would like to backpedal and admit this truth he is free too
 
Prostitution should be legal for individuals. Pimping, running a brothel, or otherwise profiting from or facilitating the prostitution of a third party should be illegal.
 
In a country of 300 million plus million people it probably will.

meanwhile l see at least 100 users voted in the poll but l cant see 50 % of those WHO voted

maybe it is a conspiracy against me by mafia

some friends cant understand that this sector cant be regulated.
 
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thanks for voting

My fear is if legal, it could become socially acceptable by some/most. If socially acceptable, ladies who otherwise would not dream of it if experiencing financial hardship could be pressured to engage in prositution to pays the bills. Taken to another level, government could eventually restrict welfare to ladies who are pursuing all legal employment options including prostitution as society labels those who refuse as holier than thou, old fashioned, sanctimonious deadbeats. I can hear it now. "What hypocrites. They didn't have a problem with getting pregnant but now want the taxpayers to feed their kids. They need to get back in bed, make some money and stop being a freeloader!"
 
Isn't that a smuggling problem, not a prostitution problem? I'm not sure that the two issues should be conflated.

If there was an avenue for adults to enter into prostitution legally, that wouldn't prevent smuggling and trafficking, but it would mitigate the dangers of those women from being abused by the criminal element.

Not that I'd personally recommend prostitution as a career choice.


if so no comment

even to your daughter ,for instance ?
 
Yes. Let it be regulated and taxed instead of that money from that industry going to criminals.
 
I think George said it best.

George Carlin "I don't understand why prostitution is illegal. Selling is legal. ****ing is legal. Why isn't selling ****ing legal? You know, why should it be illegal to sell something that's perfectly legal to give away? I can't follow the logic on that one at all! Of all the things you can do, giving someone an orgasm is hardly the worst thing in the world. In the army they give you a medal for spraying napalm on people! In civilian life you go to jail for giving someone an orgasm! Maybe I'm not supposed to understand it..."

It's true that it doesn't make any sense. Now, were it not for all the other socials ills that come with it, I could be for it.

Last I heard the red light district in Amsterdam was having some pretty significant problems with violent organized crime that run the brothels there.

Do you remember the rather brilliant comedy sketch featuring Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse in which they played laid-back police officers in Amsterdam, bragging that they no longer have to deal with the crime of murder in the Netherlands since the Dutch legalised it? Don’t laugh too hard. In 2000 the Dutch government decided to make it even easier for pimps, traffickers and punters by legalising the already massive and highly visible brothel trade. Their logic was as simple as it was deceptive: to make things safer for everyone. Make it a job like any other. Once the women were liberated from the underworld, the crooks, drug dealers and people traffickers would drift away.

Twelve years on, and we can now see the results of this experiment. Rather than afford better protection for the women, it has simply increased the market. Rather than confine the brothels to a discrete (and avoidable) part of the city, the sex industry has spilt out all over Amsterdam — including on-street. Rather than be given rights in the ‘workplace’, the prostitutes have found the pimps are as brutal as ever. The government-funded union set up to protect them has been shunned by the vast majority of prostitutes, who remain too scared to complain.
Why even Amsterdam doesn’t want legal brothels

Amsterdam Tries Upscale Fix for Red-Light District Crime

Yeah, sure. Legalize the pros, just if it came without all the other bad baggage it seems to come with.
 
Look at it this way (because this is how it is):


Government is going to be a LOT bigger in the future whether you or anyone else likes it or not. Prostitution is already an industry. It's really a perfect example of an industry worth literally tens of billions of dollars in tax revenue that is currently going to the underworld. Will the underworld still control it even if it is taxed? Possibly, but so what? The underworld controls numerous industries that are taxed, it's not as if that's unique really. If the industry is going to exist it should be taxed simply put. Any other argument is illogical. Women who are going to prostitute their bodies are already doing so whether it's legal or illegal. It might as well be taxed.
 
Prostitution and human traffic are intrinsically connected. One thrives as the result of the other. That you fail to see this is your problem, I've no time for people want to start a conversation with "human traffic doesn't support prostitution" when I just posted a whole bunch of evidence showing it does so in Europe's "success stories" like Germany.

No, you posted some anecdotes that show that legalizing prostitution doesn't stop trafficking. Which we've already agreed is true. You have shown nothing that suggests that legal prostitution makes the problem of trafficking worse. You're just making that up.
 
Yes, what two or more peopl want to do with each other for money is not something that should be regulated.
 
Legal yes, but no street prostitution. An age limit which states that prostitutes must be 21 or older.

A monthly health check up. No prostitution without condoms, that would become illegal. No prostitution business may be owned by someone with gang links or criminal convictions. All prostitutes have to get a permit in which they must prove their age, health status and of course to prevent human trafficking they must either be American citizens or have a work permit that is valid.

Most of the things you listed are already prohibited by law.
 
Most of the things you listed are already prohibited by law.

Yes, but they should be the limitations of legal prostitution and not prohibited on top of prostitution being illegal.
 
Yes, but they should be the limitations of legal prostitution and not prohibited on top of prostitution being illegal.

Those limitations already exist and they're useless.
 
Better question is how many of you want your daughters doing it?
 
Laws against prostitution have been traditionally driven to protect women and girls from sexual exploitation. I understand the motives, but it doesn't work well, and in a land where pornography is not only legal, but heavily promoted, it is absurd to think that girls are not exploited.
 
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