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Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

  • Im a right leaning American, yes.

    Votes: 9 37.5%

  • Im a left leaning American, yes.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Im not American, yes.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Im a right leaning American, no.

    Votes: 4 16.7%

  • Im a left leaning American, no.

    Votes: 7 29.2%

  • Im not American, no.

    Votes: 4 16.7%
  • Total voters
    24
The rising tide of terrorism can be directly traced to US foreign policy in the Middle East. It is simply a form of revenge for the constant bombings and occupations over there. If you want terrorism to stop then stop meddling in other countries. Remember the Golden Rule- its as simple as that.
 
PoS said:
The rising tide of terrorism can be directly traced to US foreign policy in the Middle East. It is simply a form of revenge for the constant bombings and occupations over there. If you want terrorism to stop then stop meddling in other countries. Remember the Golden Rule- its as simple as that.
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Not really PoS. :2wave: The radicals were going after their own regimes and so called holy men long before any US policy came about.
 
US Conservative said:
I never said terrorism was unique to Obama-I said its rapidly expanding under on his watch. On this, we agree.
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And terrorism increasing under Obama is not "unique", especially since its been increasing for the last 11+ years... .
 
US Conservative said:
ISIS, Paris, Africa, Asia-terrorist groups are rapidly expanding as is radical islam in general-even more disconcerting is they are becoming highly organized. Thousands around the world have died due to islamic terrorists just over the last few days. Despite Obama being POTUS, radical groups seem to be expanding.



Has terrorism flourished under Obama? In any case, kindly explain why.
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Seems like it would be more acurate to say it has skyrocketed under the republican House of Representatives. It was kinda flat the first couple years after Obama took office, then went way up once republicans took the house.
 
Redress said:
Seems like it would be more acurate to say it has skyrocketed under the republican House of Representatives. It was kinda flat the first couple years after Obama took office, then went way up once republicans took the house.
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Yep, those House repuclicants made Obama remove the troops that were keeping them somewhat holed up. ;)
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Its been "exponentially expanding" since 2004... All data suggests this.
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That is incorrect.

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Support for Islamist Fundamentalism is has a causal relationship with popular perceptions of it's success.
 
PoS said:
The rising tide of terrorism can be directly traced to US foreign policy in the Middle East. It is simply a form of revenge for the constant bombings and occupations over there. If you want terrorism to stop then stop meddling in other countries. Remember the Golden Rule- its as simple as that.
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Not spent much actual time studying Islamist Fundamentalism, huh?
 
cpwill said:
That is incorrect.

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Support for Islamist Fundamentalism is has a causal relationship with popular perceptions of it's success.
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CP, do you have a link for the page that this came from? I'd like to read the article. Thanks in advance.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Yep, those House repuclicants made Obama remove the troops that were keeping them somewhat holed up. ;)
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Wait, I thought we were playing the correlation game(see cpwill's post below yours for another example of the game and how it is played). Since we are doing that, correlations are fair game, and I found a better one than the OPs. Of course, the correlation game is ****ing idiotic, but since that is the game every one wants to play, I figured I would just play to win.
 
cpwill said:
That is incorrect.

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Support for Islamist Fundamentalism is has a causal relationship with popular perceptions of it's success.
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This is why the correlation game is a stupid game. Terrorist attacks in Iraq the last year of data(2013) was a little over 600. Your chart shows almost 10k attacks at that time. SO we are supposed to beleive that the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq influenced the number of terror attacks, everywhere, by a huge margin. That seems...unlikely at best. To put it another way, terror attacks in Iraq, 2010 to 2013 goes from about 120 to just over 600. In contrast, in Russia, attacks during that time have gone from a little over 500 to over 1400, or a much larger rise.

Source for stats: Global Terrorism Database
 
cpwill said:
Not spent much actual time studying Islamist Fundamentalism, huh?
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Watching Fox News 24/7 does not make you an expert.
 
US Conservative said:
ISIS, Paris, Africa, Asia-terrorist groups are rapidly expanding as is radical islam in general-even more disconcerting is they are becoming highly organized. Thousands around the world have died due to islamic terrorists just over the last few days. Despite Obama being POTUS, radical groups seem to be expanding.

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Has terrorism flourished under Obama? In any case, kindly explain why.
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It's flourished for as long as we've been making these interventions into foreign lands. It won't get better if we keep doing the same thing we've been doing for decade after decade.
 
Redress said:
Seems like it would be more acurate to say it has skyrocketed under the republican House of Representatives. It was kinda flat the first couple years after Obama took office, then went way up once republicans took the house.
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Lol wow, try not to sound too desperate.

Lol blaming a Republican House over the Commander in Chief of the military? lol.

No one is that crazy
 
MMC said:
Terrorism has increased by 56% under BO.....no matter how much you try to help BO save face. AQ is not on the run, nor have they been.....AQ morphed. Ansar al Sharia spread from Yemen to Libya.

AQ in the Levant became ISIL. Who Became ISIS.

Boko Haram increased their range. ISIS increased the range and expanded. AQ increased their Range and expanded. Other terrorists groups began aligning with AQ or ISIS.

This is what happens when one such as BO.....only carries Balsa wood for his big stick.
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Hi MMC..... :2wave:


If you're counting bodies 9/11 happened under Bush's watch.

The two brothers in Paris were inspired to join Al Qaeda because of the Iraq invasion and Abu Graib.
 
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11Bravo said:
Lol wow, try not to sound too desperate.

Lol blaming a Republican House over the Commander in Chief of the military? lol.

No one is that crazy
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I see my point went way over your head. Try reading a bit further in the thread and note where I make my point more clear. Counter those if you can. Bet you cannot...
 
I voted yes, but not for the reasons most. I do not believe it is because Obama is too weak, or because we are no longer technically occupying the Middle East. I voted yes because of our policy towards terrorism. It also expanded under Bush, Clinton and the Elder Bush due to this policy. We cannot go around and bomb everybody that hates us, it is not realistic. There will always be people that hate America. Unfortunately, the majority of people who hate America right now are not people who hate it "just because". They hate America because we cause them to hate us. Every time we play wack a mole with terrorism and use drones to take people out, there is collateral damage, innocent civilians. When we kill them, we make more enemies then we kill. It perpetuates violence. Obama has done too much working to go after terrorists. So that is why I voted yes. We have been entrenched in this war for so long, and every year the attacks get worse, the ideologies get more extreme, we spend more money, and lose more sons and daughters. Maybe we need a new policy, one that fosters peace. How about listen to the people who want to kill us and consider their grievances instead of bombing the sugar out of them. You cannot combat violence with more violence, it will only perpetuate itself.
 
Redress said:
I see my point went way over your head. Try reading a bit further in the thread and note where I make my point more clear. Counter those if you can. Bet you cannot...
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Nice deflection. Your post quotes the Republican house as being responsible for the rise in terrorism when they were elected in. You took the blame away from the Commander in Chief of the military, and blamed people who have nothing to do with his militaristic decision making.

Did you serve in Iraq or Afg? I'll tell you what, nothing made me more happy when Obama changed the rules of engagement to where we couldn't shoot the enemy until they shot at us first. That 'wait to get shot' rule REALLY saved lives. (Sarcasm, over 70% of the deaths in Afghanistan happened under Obama since 2001 because of that rule change).
 
11Bravo said:
Nice deflection. Your post quotes the Republican house as being responsible for the rise in terrorism when they were elected in. You took the blame away from the Commander in Chief of the military, and blamed people who have nothing to do with his militaristic decision making.

Did you serve in Iraq or Afg? I'll tell you what, nothing made me more happy when Obama changed the rules of engagement to where we couldn't shoot the enemy until they shot at us first. That 'wait to get shot' rule REALLY saved lives. (Sarcasm, over 70% of the deaths in Afghanistan happened under Obama since 2001 because of that rule change).
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Go read posts 59 and 60, then get back to me.
 
Declan said:
The POTUS before Obama is why you see terrorism flourishing all over the world. Obama hasn't helped the situation by maintaining horrible Bush policies, but I haven't see too many skiers who could stop the avalanche they are swept up in either.
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Its Bush's fault? :lamo
 
11Bravo said:
I'm addressing one post that you keep deflecting from.
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And you keep running away from where I expand and clarify the point. Hint: correlation is not causation...
 
Redress said:
And you keep running away from where I expand and clarify the point. Hint: correlation is not causation...
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Ok I see. My bad. Truce:peace
 
Redress said:
I see my point went way over your head. Try reading a bit further in the thread and note where I make my point more clear. Counter those if you can. Bet you cannot...
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What's your point?
 
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