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Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

  • Im a right leaning American, yes.

    Votes: 9 37.5%

  • Im a left leaning American, yes.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Im not American, yes.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Im a right leaning American, no.

    Votes: 4 16.7%

  • Im a left leaning American, no.

    Votes: 7 29.2%

  • Im not American, no.

    Votes: 4 16.7%
  • Total voters
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US Conservative said:
So then you mean to say that yes terror has expanded under Obama, as a results of his policies?
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Oh boy... You claim to one to have a honest poll, but you even admit you cant have an honest poll...
 
Paschendale said:
They were not suppressed at all. The oppression and violence only served to make them inevitable.
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No! No! Dont bring up how the "war on terror" actually creates more terror!!!

"The report suggests that U.S. foreign policy has played a big role in making the problem worse: "The rise in terrorist activity coincided with the US invasion of Iraq," it concludes. "This created large power vacuums in the country allowing different factions to surface and become violent." Indeed, among the five countries accounting for the bulk of attacks, the U.S. has prosecuted lengthy ground wars in two (Iraq and Afghanistan), a drone campaign in one (Pakistan), and airstrikes in a fourth (Syria)." After 13 years, 2 wars and trillions in military spending, terrorist attacks are rising sharply - The Washington Post

C'mon, we have to keep up the talking points and hackery only about how this is Obama's fault and not the broader picture of the war on terror, and the continuation of the war on terror brought under Obama (which somehow they are for, but against because its Obama???)...
 
Paschendale said:
They were not suppressed at all. The oppression and violence only served to make them inevitable.
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These radical groups were very much suppressed-by the Ottomans, Russians, British, French, etc. And while its true that the baseline for those cultures has always been violent, at the very least these terror attacks were generally suppressed.
 
US Conservative said:
These radical groups were very much suppressed-by the Ottomans, Russians, British, French, etc. And while its true that the baseline for those cultures has always been violent, at the very least these terror attacks were generally suppressed.
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Revisionist history and insulting other cultures. Classy.
 
US Conservative said:
You've already admitted that terror is flourishing under Obama.
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Again its not unique under Obama.......... I know you like to focus on one person while ignoring the whole thing of history, historical trends, and historical consequences..
 
US Conservative said:
So we agree here, then that terror is flourishing under Obama?
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I think he meant Bush left us with a huge snowball rolling downhill and it's hard to stop it. At least Obama didn't tell them to "bring it on".

The Bush Doctrine policy of "preventive war" not only failed to prevent future conflicts in Iraq and the Middle East, but also created a power vacuum that emboldened renegade and genocidal groups like ISIS.

Sadly, President Bush's September 20, 2001 Address to a Joint Session of Congress now seems like a hopefully naïve, almost innocent fantasy compared to the nightmare erupting today in Iraq. Bush's words that day should be the soundtrack for today's televised chaos:


Our war on terror begins with Al Qaeda, but it does not end there.

It will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped and defeated.

Americans are asking "Why do they hate us?''

They hate what they see right here in this chamber: a democratically elected government. Their leaders are self-appointed. They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other.

...Americans are asking, "How will we fight and win this war?''

...we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism. Every nation in every region now has a decision to make: Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.

...Our nation, this generation, will lift the dark threat of violence from our people and our future. We will rally the world to this cause by our efforts, by our courage. We will not tire, we will not falter and we will not fail.

...Fellow citizens, we'll meet violence with patient justice, assured of the rightness of our cause and confident of the victories to come.

In all that lies before us, may God grant us wisdom and may he watch over the United States of America.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/isis-atrocities-in-iraq-r_b_5661346.html
 
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US Conservative said:
These radical groups were very much suppressed-by the Ottomans, Russians, British, French, etc. And while its true that the baseline for those cultures has always been violent, at the very least these terror attacks were generally suppressed.
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That was until Bush Jr. invaded Iraq.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Again its not unique under Obama.......... I know you like to focus on one person while ignoring the whole thing of history, historical trends, and historical consequences..
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I never said terrorism was unique to Obama-I said its rapidly expanding under on his watch. On this, we agree.
 
US Conservative said:
So its better that Obama bows and supplicates as it expands even more? I guess thats one way to go. :doh
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He didn't bow to Bin Laden or let him go like Bush. We have also eliminated scores of Alqeada leaders during Obama's Administration. Oh and he hasn't allowed any major attacks on US soil while ignoring dire warnings about an attack either. He also has not invaded any Mideast countries spiking terrorist recruiting skyhigh.
Sometimes it is better to walk softly and carry a big stick.
 
US Conservative said:
Ah yes that canard. Well heres the good news, P. Obama wont be President much longer-and the next one wont cry about his predecessor. Perhaps you can take the opportunity to note what a real POTUS is.
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Fear not, when it comes to the mess in the Middle East and terrorism anywhere, GW Bush's name will come up no matter how much time has past. It's called "infamy" Actions have consequences and Bush was a man of action, even when he did nothing. Especially when he did nothing. No President but Bush has allowed so many innocent Americans to be killed on his watch. Who could forget that? Or what Political Party he represented?
 
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US Conservative said:
Ah yes that canard. Well heres the good news, P. Obama wont be President much longer-and the next one wont cry about his predecessor. Perhaps you can take the opportunity to note what a real POTUS is.
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iguanaman said:
He didn't bow to Bin Laden or let him go like Bush. We have also eliminated scores of Alqeada leaders during Obama's Administration. Oh and he hasn't allowed any major attacks on US soil while ignoring dire warnings about an attack either. He also has not invaded any Mideast countries spiking terrorist recruiting skyhigh.
Sometimes it is better to walk softly and carry a big stick.
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Terrorism has increased by 56% under BO.....no matter how much you try to help BO save face. AQ is not on the run, nor have they been.....AQ morphed. Ansar al Sharia spread from Yemen to Libya.

AQ in the Levant became ISIL. Who Became ISIS.

Boko Haram increased their range. ISIS increased the range and expanded. AQ increased their Range and expanded. Other terrorists groups began aligning with AQ or ISIS.

This is what happens when one such as BO.....only carries Balsa wood for his big stick.
 
iguanaman said:
He didn't bow to Bin Laden or let him go like Bush. We have also eliminated scores of Alqeada leaders during Obama's Administration. Oh and he hasn't allowed any major attacks on US soil while ignoring dire warnings about an attack either. He also has not invaded any Mideast countries spiking terrorist recruiting skyhigh.
Sometimes it is better to walk softly and carry a big stick.
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Bush didn't let him go either, and the infrastructure he established was critical in getting Bin Laden. Bush didn't release prisoners to harm US soldiers and kill innocents as is now happening. In the mean time, terrorism continues to flourish under Obama.
 
iguanaman said:
Fear not, when it comes to the mess in the Middle East and terrorism anywhere, GW Bush's name will come up no matter how much time has past. It's called "infamy" Actions have consequences and Bush was a man of action, even when he did nothing. Especially when he did nothing. No President but Bush has allowed so many innocent Americans to be killed on his watch. Who could forget that? Or what Political Party he represented?
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Its only infamous to lefties, and in any case blaming Bush is an implicit admission that Obama has failed. Its time for the left to see what a real POTUS looks like-and it wont be anything like Obama.
 
MMC said:
Terrorism has increased by 56% under BO.....no matter how much you try to help BO save face. AQ is not on the run, nor have they been.....AQ morphed. Ansar al Sharia spread from Yemen to Libya.

AQ in the Levant became ISIL. Who Became ISIS.

Boko Haram increased their range. ISIS increased the range and expanded. AQ increased their Range and expanded. Other terrorists groups began aligning with AQ or ISIS.

This is what happens when one such as BO.....only carries Balsa wood for his big stick.
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Indeed. The world respects strength-and that ain't BO. In fact, BO stinks.
 
US Conservative said:
Bush didn't let him go either, and the infrastructure he established was critical in getting Bin Laden. Bush didn't release prisoners to harm US soldiers and kill innocents as is now happening. In the mean time, terrorism continues to flourish under Obama.
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Heya USC. :2wave: Unfortunately.....yes Bush did release prisoners, and even more than BO peep. But suffice to say.....the difference is in. Who is left to release. Those now that are still prisoners. Are considered to be the worst of the worse. Which is why Bush is accredited for the larger release. Over 500 as opposed to BO's 100 and 90 or so.
 
MMC said:
Heya USC. :2wave: Unfortunately.....yes Bush did release prisoners, and even more than BO peep. But suffice to say.....the difference is in. Who is left to release. Those now that are still prisoners. Are considered to be the worse of the worse. Which is why Bush is accredited for the larger release. Over 500 as opposed to BO's 100 and 90 or so.
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Yeah I guess the current head of ISIS counts.
 
US Conservative said:
Yeah I guess the current head of ISIS counts.
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Plus BO released the Fab Five of the Taliban. 3 that were the connections for AQ and others like them. 2 that Mentored Bin Laden.

I think they have upped the percentage of how many return back to the battlefield. Especially when it is the only paying job in town.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Terrorism has been "flourishing" ever since 2004..........
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Oh boy that war on terror seems to be working real well!


But I get it, OBAMA SUCKS! THE LEFT SUCKS!
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It is certainly an interesting graph. I suspect the reasons are more complicated than you imply, but thank you for the picture.
 
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