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No, churches should not be required to perform any marriages they don't want to.
I hate the whole "left leaning" or "right leaning" but no "somewhere in the middle" or "other" option for polls like this.
I voted "left leaning" based on my stance regarding SSM.
No, churches should not be required to perform any marriages they don't want to.
I feel that the irrational fear of this very outcome is much of what drives the "anti-gay marriage" position.
As though extending beyond the traditional gender barrier on a civil marriage somehow negates the 1st amendment.
If anything, it forced churches to be a bit more honest about their quasi-religious business interests.
Suddenly it's not so easy to operate a business as though it was an extension of a church.
as many posters have pointed out it makes the whole thread fail based on that alone
Should churches be forced to perform gay marriages?
We hear much about gay marriage these days, both in the media and in politics. However, many religions (not just Christians) are expressly against gay marriage. There are exceptions, but in general that is the current situation.
Should churches be forced to perform gay marriages?
My thoughts TK.
Are churches "forced" to marry straight people?
Pretty sure the answer is no.
So why/how could they be forced to marry gay people?
How could any church be forced to do this in the USA with out violating the 1st Amendment? :roll: :roll:
That's the question that I'd like to see answered
Because it would be discrimination? They offer marriages as do bakers bridal cake.
Because it would be discrimination? They offer marriages as do bakers bridal cake.
1.)Absolutely not. If we are going for separation of church and state then that goes both ways. The church should not appeal to government to define acceptable terms for marriage, and the government should not appeal to the church by forcing them to marry whoever shows up.
2.) If the LGBT community is asking for this, then they are overstepping their position.
Yeah because the government never forces people to do things against their will under the threat of force, right?
What is the point of this poll? No one is arguing that they should. Moreover, it would not be constitutional. Its nothing but a straw man. Churches already do not recognize all sorts of marriages that the government does recognize. For example, if you divorce and then remarry the Catholic Church will not recognize the second marriage. The same is the case with same sex marriage.
Right now, polls are worthless. Somebody's gaming them.I think someone is messing with the vote. I cant believe that 5 right leaning people voted yes and dont believe that 6 left leaning people did. Until I just voted, there were exactly the same number of yes's as no's. I just dont believe that that happened without someone messing with it.
It's not a demand. It's a request, a mere suggestion. Some churches are just more efficient as requesting and suggesting than others.What do you call a church that demands 10% of your income to be a member?
Fair enough (I happen to agree) but the question was if churches should be forced to do so.
I hate the whole "left leaning" or "right leaning" but no "somewhere in the middle" or "other" option for polls like this.
I voted "left leaning" based on my stance regarding SSM.
Should churches be forced to perform gay marriages?
There have already been steps taken in this direction, that ought to have been seen as clearly unconstitutional, but which have been allowed anyway. The big step was in forcing photographers, caterers, bakers, and such, to provide service to homosexual mockeries of weddings, and to subject them to civil liability and/or criminal charges for refusing to do so. This is blatantly unconstitutional, and yet it has been allowed to happen. Compared to that, it is a very small step from there to forcing churches to participate in homosexual mockeries of weddings.
If we were going to stop short of forcing churches to participate in such sickness, then we would have stopped before we reached the point of forcing businesses to participate in it.
Umm... churches dont eat.