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Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

Is the American left becoming more and more authoritarian?


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But the left and right aren't equivocal. Are you suggesting otherwise?

They are, just ask people who claim to be liberal or conservative why they are. Most will answer something that isn't in the ideology or something inaccurate. Or they pick out one outlying idea and go with that, ignoring the base of the party's ideology. I can't talk politics with people because very few people know and understand politics, let alone the history of the parties. Somewhere along the way, both parties flipped a 180 and are now out in wonderland somewhere.

I often wonder why anyone would align with either party because I find it impossible to agree with one single party's ideology 100% of the time. I dislike both parties, but favor the right since they align with my thoughts on the economy and the role of gov't. I like how the right wants smaller gov't. and to reign in welfare spending. I like nothing about the left, they seem two-faced. They pretend to stand for equality and civil liberties, but all we have seen over the last 8 years were liberties being eroded and bad behavior rewarded. Obama did a very good job at the old bait-n-switch routine. I'm still waiting for any talking point he ran on in 2008 to come to fruition. What a disappointing liar.

They both push their own agendas with the same tanacity (my way or the highway), so in that they are equal.
 
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If we outlaw hoodies, only outlaws will wear hoodies....

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More authoritarian than when?

The Left has always been authoritarian. :lol: As the wag said, "Ideas so good, they have to be mandatory". But are they today as authoritarian as they were during (for example) the Progressive Era? I would need to see a really good break down of that claim. Perhaps they are more totalitarian, but less authoritarian.
 
Funny I remember Obama being against gay marriage until it was politically convenient, and re-signing the Patriot act after greatly expanding it. I think the left changed in the 1960's. If you think the American Right is at all comparable to the Taliban-you might be a lefty. How did you vote?

Obama is a centrist...
 
It was part of the schism. Did I delineate that geographically?

Perhaps you should just read what people post and try not to draw implications. You're not very good at that.

Kobie, it was a poor choice of words on your part. Words mean things. :2wave:
 
By your logic both parties are authoritarian. Which I agree with. They are authoritarian based on the idea that it is their way or the highway, no negotiating. That is everything wrong with the current system. No one on either side wants to come to an agreement of any kind.

This poll didn't have my option: Both parties are authoritarian. This should have been known 12 or more years ago.

It was a pretty simple question, and it sounds like your answer is yes.
 
Only to the extreme left fringe. But hey, at least you aren't claiming he's right wing, thats always amusing to see.

All this coming from the poster that is so far right he is almost falling off the chart.....
 
Only to the extreme left fringe. But hey, at least you aren't claiming he's right wing, thats always amusing to see.

By American standards he is centrist, by international standards he is firmly on the right.
 
By American standards he' a leftist, and arguably he's a centrist internationally. But in any case he's all fail.

American leftists are typically not for war, corporatism, drug prohibition, etc.
 
And who says Bush has not done the same? Remember Bush was the most secretive government for decades.

If Bush has done the same, post a link to an example (accusations based on possibilities are hardly valid). Obama might be plotting a UN take over of US National Parks- right?
Bush is the president that has used executive powers the most in history.
Do you have a specific example of how Bush has used executive powers?
As he should. Work place rights should not be defined by religious dogma.
Work place rights? Social policies ("free" birth control) are not constitutional rights, nor do these policies eliminate constitutional rights. I may want everyone to serve in the military. But that is a social policy, and I cant use this social policy to eliminate the rights of other citizens.
And? One of the most corrupt Justices was put in place by Bush..
Which one? And, how is he or she corrupt? I have a sneaking suspiscion that your definition of corrupt is:

Corrupt (adj)- Those who fail to affirm the social policies advocated by Pete EU are "corrupt".... .

Dont understand the significance on this one.
The ministerial exception alllows US religous orgainizations to make internal hiring decsions with out scrutinity from the government. Rather, these hiring decisions are unreviewable. What is important is that Obama wanted these hirings to be reviewable by the government and that he lost 9-0 as the Supreme Court.
 
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Sorry...was that a little over your head? When you start reverting to fictional Hollywood works to make your point, I have to wonder.

Hey, you're the one yammering on about the "dark side."
 
Kobie, it was a poor choice of words on your part. Words mean things. :2wave:

Yes, words do mean something. Maybe you should display some understanding of that.

Save your opinion for someone who cares.
 
Who´s votes? The white supremacist pig?



The narrative from his side is that he did give the speech at that venue but it was on a topic not related to being what you have called him.

Does he have a pattern of behavior that has caused you to condemn him?
 
American leftists are typically not for war, corporatism, drug prohibition, etc.

You have to remember that you're dealing with someone who has a definition of "left" that is rooted in fantasy.
 
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