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Did the NYPD do the right thing by turning their backs on the mayor?

Did the NYPD do the right thing by turning their backs on the mayor?


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I'll say right off, I think it was a low class thing to do.

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With the way they've been treated, and the lack of support that has been shown them, I don't blame them one bit. I'd be inclined to do the same.
 
I'll say right off, I think it was a low class thing to do.

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Actually, it wasn't JUST the NYPD that turned their backs to de Blasio. All the LEO's visiting from near and far, and in some cases internationally, all did.

A higher class mayor wouldn't have received such treatment, but then, a higher class mayor wouldn't have thrown his own police force under the bus like the classless de Blasio did. de Blasio could have elected to say very little or nothing, and would have been better off.

You support the protesters for their chanting and calling for dead cops, yes? Yet you are against the LEOs doing the same? Expressing themselves. Interesting that inconsistency.
 
Uhhh it was incredibly dumb move on their part. What did the Mayor do?
 
You support the protesters for their chanting and calling for dead cops, yes? Yet you are against the LEOs doing the same? Expressing themselves. Interesting that inconsistency.

I haven't seen a single person supporting the VERY FEW protesters calling for dead cops.

There is also a time and place for protest, and I don't think a funeral or memorial service is it.
 
Uhhh it was incredibly dumb move on their part. What did the Mayor do?

de Blasio threw his own PD under the bus. Heck, even MOVEON.Org says so.
NYC residents demand the exit of Mayor Bill DeBlasio after 2 NYPD officers were shot and killed today 12/20/14. Accountability for his actions and words MUST be handed down.

**There is a message going around within the nypd that this petition is a rouse from occupy wall street to get information on officers. Occupy wall street has ZERO CONTROL OR SAY IN THIS PETITION!!!!**

Today, Saturday December 20th 2014, 5 days before christmas, 2 NYPD officers were shot and killed in their cruiser for no apparent reason.With the recent news surrounding the NYPD and other law enforcement agencies around the country, our mayor blasted his own police department by throwing them under the bus. His words and actions on the subject matter of late have to be held accountable. He is unfit to lead this city. He is unfit to have a relationship with his police department for his remaining tenure and he should be taken out of office IMMEDIATELY, with proper protocol to be followed to name a replacement before a special election.
MoveOn Petitions - Resignation of New York City mayor Bill DeBlasio

Police Unions, Others Blast Mayor After Shooting Deaths Of 2 NYPD Cops « CBS New York

NYPD Officers Fire Back at New York City Mayor & City Council Speaker for Insulting Their Integrity

Petition Calling for de Blasio's Resignation Reaches Over 50,000 Signatures
 
And while I don't agree with de Blasio being as unsupportive of the NYPD as he was amidst the protests, the idea that he bears any culpability in a lone nut driving up from Baltimore and plugging two officers holds no water.
 
Actually, it wasn't JUST the NYPD that turned their backs to de Blasio. All the LEO's visiting from near and far, and in some cases internationally, all did.

A higher class mayor wouldn't have received such treatment, but then, a higher class mayor wouldn't have thrown his own police force under the bus like the classless de Blasio did. de Blasio could have elected to say very little or nothing, and would have been better off.

You support the protesters for their chanting and calling for dead cops, yes? Yet you are against the LEOs doing the same? Expressing themselves. Interesting that inconsistency.
Absolutely not and your strawman is BS. Reguardless, what the Mayor said or done the police should hold themselves to a higher standard. I Know I do.
 
I haven't seen a single person supporting the VERY FEW protesters calling for dead cops.

There is also a time and place for protest, and I don't think a funeral or memorial service is it.

From the video footage that I saw, it wasn't a very few, I'd place it between 50 and 100 or so.

While I would agree wit you that a funeral isn't the right time and place for protest (unlike the Westboro idiots), I understand the LEOs position on this, and support that position.

What's the saddest to me is that a solemn time of a funeral, being there to honor a fallen fellow officer, there in support of that officer's family, the LEOs were put in a position where they felt that had to protest de Blasio.

We are seeming to forget that it was de Blasio's actions and words alone which has causing this tear in the relationship between the mayor and his police force.
 
I usually support these kinds of acts of disobedience and disrespect for authority, but a funeral is not the place to grand stand.
 
Perhaps you don't know this eohrnberger , but anyone even you can post on MoveOn, try it some time.

No, I admit I missed that. Thanks for setting it straight.
 
I'll say right off, I think it was a low class thing to do.

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Someone in a position of power basically implies that people in a certain profession are a racist trigger happy thugs who attack and murder black people and you actually have to ask that poll question about people in that profession turning their backs on that politician? That person is power stirred the pot, he is no different than Al Sharpton or some other race parasite who stirs up racial animosity. The mayor should have had their backs.But instead he planted his lips on the cocks of race hustlers and gave a huge middle finger to the police. Would this poll question been asked if the police turned their back on Al Sharpton Jessie Jackson or some other race parasite who helped stir the pot?
 
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Absolutely not and your strawman is BS. Reguardless, what the Mayor said or done the police should hold themselves to a higher standard. I Know I do.

Why not hold the mayor to a higher standard?
 
From the video footage that I saw, it wasn't a very few, I'd place it between 50 and 100 or so.

While I would agree wit you that a funeral isn't the right time and place for protest (unlike the Westboro idiots), I understand the LEOs position on this, and support that position.

What's the saddest to me is that a solemn time of a funeral, being there to honor a fallen fellow officer, there in support of that officer's family, the LEOs were put in a position where they felt that had to protest de Blasio.

We are seeming to forget that it was de Blasio's actions and words alone which has causing this tear in the relationship between the mayor and his police force.

Relatively speaking, 50 to 100 is an extremely small number.
 
Relatively speaking, 50 to 100 is an extremely small number.

In the sense of protesting, yeah, I can see that.

In the sense that they are calling for someone's or a group's murder, then quite worrisome, I'd say.
 
In the sense of protesting, yeah, I can see that.

In the sense that they are calling for someone's or a group's murder, then quite worrisome, I'd say.

Then sure, you deal with them. However, you directly accused another poster of supporting protesters chanting for dead cops.
 
I'll say right off, I think it was a low class thing to do.

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They were unprofessional at a funeral. No need to say more.
 
de Blasio threw his own PD under the bus. Heck, even MOVEON.Org says so.
MoveOn Petitions - Resignation of New York City mayor Bill DeBlasio
Well what were the "words and actions"?
Again in this link it says he "has blood on his hands"? But what did he do? Nowhere did they say anything he did that lead to this "blood on his hands"...

Same as above? WTF did he do?

Same as above?W What the hell did he do?
 
Someone in a position of power basically implies that people in a certain profession are a racist trigger happy thugs who attack and murder black people and you actually have to ask that poll question about people in that profession turning their backs on that politician? That person is power stirred the pot, he is no different than Al Sharpton or some other race parasite who stirs up racial animosity. The mayor should have had their backs.But instead he planted his lips on the cocks of race hustlers and gave a huge middle finger to the police. Would this poll question been asked if the police turned their back on Al Sharpton Jessie Jackson or some other race parasite who helped stir the pot?
I think those policemen disrespected the fallen hero, by thinking only of themselves. This was not the right place or time to do what they did.
 
Absolutely not and your strawman is BS. Reguardless, what the Mayor said or done the police should hold themselves to a higher standard. I Know I do.

Wrong. The police should be held to the same standard - they are not above the law. The problem is not the occasional rogue cop but the government prosecutor allowing that criminal allegation to go unchallenged in court. The sane, among the protestors, realize this simple truth and are calling for legal accountability not some mythical training seminar to turn things around. De Blasio wants to be seen as "on the right side" by babbling BS about racist and extremely violent police actions yet calls for training which most sane folks reject as simply political BS. You do not hold he entire NYPD accountable (or call for their training) for the criminal actions of any individual officer just as you do not hold all blacks accoutable (or call for their training) for the criminal actions of any indivdual black person.
 
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I think those policemen disrespected the fallen hero, by thinking only of themselves. This was not the right place or time to do what they did.

We do not know how the deceased officer felt about the mayor. So we do not know for sure if it is the officers or the mayor who is being disrespectful. If he was one of those officers who said they did not want the mayor attending the funerals of fallen officers then the mayor is the one being disrespectful by showing up where he is not wanted. If the police officer had no problem with the mayor then it is the police officers who are he ones being disrespectful.

If I was that officer and some politician implied I was a racist trigger happy thug who assaults and murders black people I would not want that politician anywhere near me or my family. It would be no different than not wanting Al Sharpton, Fred Phelps or some other antagonizer to show up at a funeral.
 
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I've been critical of the Brown protesters. I don't support this either.
 
Well what were the "words and actions"?

Again in this link it says he "has blood on his hands"? But what did he do? Nowhere did they say anything he did that lead to this "blood on his hands"...


Same as above? WTF did he do?


Same as above?W What the hell did he do?

Chirlane and I have had to talk to Dante for years about the dangers he may face. He’s a good young man, law abiding young man who never would think to do anything wrong. And yet because of a history that still hangs over us, the dangers he may face, we’ve had to literally train him, as families have all over this city for decades, in how to take special care in any encounter he has with the police officers—who are there to protect him. … For so many of our young people there’s a fear and for so many of our families there’s a fear. So I’ve had to worry over the years. Chirlane’s had to worry, “Is Dante safe?” each night. There’re so many families in the city who feel that each and every night: “Is my child safe?” And not just from the painful realities of crime and violence in some of our neighborhoods but, are they safe from the very people they want to have faith in as their protectors. That’s reality. …

You’ve heard in so many places, people of all backgrounds utter the same basic phrase. They’ve said, black lives matter. And they said it because it had to be said. It’s a phrase…that should be self-evident. But our history sadly requires us to say, black lives matter.



New York City Mayor Says, #BlackLivesMatter - COLORLINES

I remember watching this, and thinking, 'he just threw the cops under the bus', and sure enough, by the next day, the copy felt they had been throw under the bus as well.

de Blasio, by his own words, has pt himself in an extremely vulnerable and weak political position, WRT to his relationship with the NYPD, one where he as mayor needs them and their support far more than the NYPD needs him.
 
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