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Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

Has superpower status made the US too arrogant?

  • Yes

    Votes: 17 50.0%

  • No

    Votes: 17 50.0%
  • Total voters
    34
BTW, here's a link to Good Morning Miss Dove. It's a great movie, IMO.

 
MildSteel said:
Let me put it like this, I was watching and old movie that was made before I was born that I had never seen before. Perhaps you have seen it. The name of the movie was "Good Morning Miss Dove." The truth is I cried when I saw the end of the movie because I thought it was so beautiful. Today such a movie would be considered corny. Today, movies for the most part contain naked or half naked people having sex, all types of foul language, and people exemplifying the worse qualities in human beings. These movies are part of our larger culture of filthy music, filthy magazines, and other types of filthy art that reflect our decadent moral values. We seek to impose this decadent culture on others who don't, in some cases want to take part. In arrogance we demonize them for it and say they are backwards because of it.
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What is "filthy" to you, may not be "filthy" to others.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
What is "filthy" to you, may not be "filthy" to others.
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That is true. The point is that we seek to impose this culture, if you can all it culture at all, on others who think that it is filthy. That is arrogance.
 
MildSteel said:
That is true. The point is that we seek to impose this culture, if you can all it culture at all, on others who think that it is filthy. That is arrogance.
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Who is the "we" you reference and where are these Clockwork Orange booths forcing anyone to consume this culture? I think it is arrogance to think that anyone in the US is imposing anything cultural on anyone else. Heck, people like PeteEU steal (my word) this cultural content because he does not approve that a content owner would deprive him of access on his terms.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
Who is the "we" you reference and where are these Clockwork Orange booths forcing anyone to consume this culture? I think it is arrogance to think that anyone in the US is imposing anything cultural on anyone else. Heck, people like PeteEU steal (my word) this cultural content because he does not approve that a content owner would deprive him of access on his terms.
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You do realize that the US government has various agencies that do nothing but come up with various types of propaganda that contain all types of images and reference all types of cultural symbols that deliberately suggest all types of things, right?
 
MildSteel said:
You do realize that the US government has various agencies that do nothing but come up with various types of propaganda that contain all types of images and reference all types of cultural symbols that deliberately suggest all types of things, right?
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Link to some by way of example. You keep talking in generalities where only you know what you really mean.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
Link to some by way of example. You keep talking in generalities where only you know what you really mean.
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Fair enough. Here's a link that tells about Radio Sawa

Radio Sawa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Radio Sawa (Arabic: راديو سوا‎) is a 24-hour 7-day-a-week Arabic language radio station broadcasting in the Arab world. The station is a service of the Middle East Broadcasting Networks, Inc. and is publicly funded by the Broadcasting Board of Governors and the U.S. Congress.
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The station's goal is to promote pro-American attitudes to youth in the Arab world.
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So it's a radio station meant to spread pro-American propaganda to Arab youth. Now that we know what it is, here is a link to some of the songs being put forward directly from Radio Sawa's website:

http://www.radiosawa.com/content/sawa-music-best-western-802/228245.html

Please note on the page that the song "Love More" by Chris Brown, featuring Nicki Minaj, is listed. Although you can't get to the video from the website anymore, here's the song



Listen to the entire song, especially the lyrics by Nicki Minaj.

Now the very honest truth is that I am an American, and I do like Nicki Minaj because I can very much relate to what she talks about. I like her style, like the way she looks, and like what she is about. That's on a personal level, and it probably has something to do with the fact that we both are black. But straight up, it's an example of a decadent culture. It is the part of the cultural propaganda effort that is being funded by the US government.
 
Since you got me thinking about Nicki Minaj, here's a little taste. Listen at your own risk, be forewarned. I tell you this for true, a man does not stand a chance against a woman. Only higher intervention can save him.



One can only pity men. ROFLMAO!!!!!
 
It's an empire. Empires that run the world generally have reason to be, lol.
 
Ryan5 said:
It's an empire. Empires that run the world generally have reason to be, lol.
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That concept has already been addressed and shot down in this thread. Sorry slick, it just ain't there. It's only the mind in concert with egoism under the influence of ignorance playing tricks.
 
MildSteel said:
There is a saying that pride proceeds the fall. It is one thing for a country to aggressively pursue it's self interests. However, it is another thing when it seeks to impose a set of decadent moral values on people who do not want to take part. That is symptom of an underlying arrogance. Has the power made the US too arrogant?
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What values do we seek to impose on others?
 
MildSteel said:
That concept has already been addressed and shot down in this thread. Sorry slick, it just ain't there. It's only the mind in concert with egoism under the influence of ignorance playing tricks.
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Whatever you and your other little internet leftist cadre concluded in the last orgasmic agree-fest session is of no real significance to reality. The US has dozens of military bases all over the world that covertly "run" the planet whether you like it or not.
 
Ryan5 said:
Whatever you and your other little internet leftist cadre concluded in the last orgasmic agree-fest session is of no real significance to reality. The US has dozens of military bases all over the world that covertly "run" the planet whether you like it or not.
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Nice words slick. Typical of hubris filled with many flaws. Prominently, glaringly if you will, is the use of the word covert. Flawed because not only is it covert, it is overt. That is one flaw. Another flaw is that you appear to think that US control of the world is absolute, and that is simply not so. The US has a preponderance of power, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE CONFUSED WITH ABSOLUTE POWER. There is a big difference, and one reason why the US has so many problems is that some very influential people in the US attempt to conduct US foreign policy AS IF the US had absolute power in the world, and that is simply not the case. But it is true that the US is the world's sole superpower, and currently has no serious competitor in the role. But again, that is only a preponderance of power.
 
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MildSteel said:
Go back to post #73 and read the thread to the current position.
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Movies are made and if others want to watch them they do... same with music. Nobody is trying to impose the MTV music awards and that little slut Miley Cyrus bending over on the world. The world also listens to Taylor Swift and Jack Johnson. The world watches Miss Potter about the innocence and beauty of Beatrix Potter writing Peter Rabbit, Finding Neverland and the beauty and imagination of Peter Pan. We are imposing those values on others as much as the filth that you seem to only see.

I have lived in other countries and visited many more... the USA is not imposing anything. People either like US products or they don't.
 
MildSteel said:
Nice words slick. Typical of hubris filled with many flaws. Prominently, glaringly if you will, is the use of the word covert. Flawed because not only is it covert, it is overt. That is one flaw. Another flaw is that you appear to think that US control of the world is absolute, and that is simply not so. The US has a preponderance of power, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE CONFUSED WITH ABSOLUTE POWER. There is a big difference, and one reason why the US has so many problems is that some very influential people in the US attempt to conduct US foreign policy AS IF the US had absolute power in the world, and that is simply not the case. But it is true that the US is the world's sole superpower, and currently has no serious competitor in the role. But again, that is only a preponderance of power.
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Are you indicating that the USA is overtly covert?
 
Bodhisattva said:
Movies are made and if others want to watch them they do... same with music. Nobody is trying to impose the MTV music awards and that little slut Miley Cyrus bending over on the world. The world also listens to Taylor Swift and Jack Johnson. The world watches Miss Potter about the innocence and beauty of Beatrix Potter writing Peter Rabbit, Finding Neverland and the beauty and imagination of Peter Pan. We are imposing those values on others as much as the filth that you seem to only see.

I have lived in other countries and visited many more... the USA is not imposing anything. People either like US products or they don't.
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I disagree with you and I gave an example of US government funded radio station that does it. When you air it, e.g. over the electromagnetic spectrum, with US government funds, you are indeed imposing it.
 
MildSteel said:
I disagree with you and I gave an example of US government funded radio station that does it. When you air it, e.g. over the electromagnetic spectrum, with US government funds, you are indeed imposing it.
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That was not the example that you gave... you talked about filthy movies and magazines. I countered accurately.

Do you mean NPR? Does that go into other nations? Can't listeners change the frequency or turn off the radio if it does? We don't have anything US Government funded here, so you are wrong on that account.

I said what I meant.
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Yes, that the USA is covert and overt. But then again, so are many countries...
 
Yup, Beyonce is a killer!!!! Man, that hurt my feelings!!!! lol

 
Bodhisattva said:
That was not the example that you gave... you talked about filthy movies and magazines.
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No I gave a specific example of a radio station and content.
 
MildSteel said:
No I gave a specific example of a radio station and content.
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Right. Radio Sawa. One example regarding an attempt to stop hate and relate people's with the use of music. That is hardly imposing decadent values onto others. You also talked about movies to which I countered with movies... you ignored that. Businesses do not impose anything... the people will want MacDonald's or they won't buy it. That is not imposing. Really, is your entire argument about one radio station and a few "filthy" movies? Seems you have a pretty poor view of America.
 
Moving right along, since I got the mike, I might as well rock the party. I'll ya how to do it!!!! :lamo

 
Meh, these threads are always amusing.


Usually made by someone who's somehow disenfranchised by the supra Americana white global culture that dominates and subverts everything else. To that I can't blame them. That cannot be fun no matter how you cut it. I'd probably bitch too if I wasn't a direct beneficiary of it.
 
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