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Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

  • Im a right leaning American, yes.

    Votes: 8 33.3%

  • Im a left leaning American, yes.

    Votes: 5 20.8%

  • Im not American, yes.

    Votes: 1 4.2%

  • Im a right leaning American, no.

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • Im a left leaning American, no.

    Votes: 6 25.0%

  • Im not American, no.

    Votes: 1 4.2%
  • Total voters
    24
US Conservative said:
And you somehow believe this despite his clear commentary on the religious aspect that I have now posted twice for you?
I guess thats one way to go.
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Where exactly did he say that we should all celebrate the birth of Christ (whom Stein himself does not believe in)?
 
US Conservative said:
You can celebrate the birth of a significant figure in historically and culturally without being a Christian-dem socialist does.
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You can. Why are you attacking certain posters for doing what you praise Ben Stein for doing?
 
US Conservative said:
So in a way you are celebrating Christmas, no?
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I am celebrating x-mas but the question was whether or not I agreed with Ben Steins views on x-mas and I do not. I do not believe in gods so his religious view of what x-mas is, is not what I feel. I feel it is a nice festive season, the only presents we bought are for my 2 nephews and the will not be giving presents.
 
sangha said:
IMO, anyone who thinks being surrounded by loved ones on a regular basis is "routine" is spiritually impoverished and lacks the christmas spirit
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rou·tine
ro͞oˈtēn/Submit
noun
1.
a sequence of actions regularly followed; a fixed program.
"I settled down into a routine of work and sleep"
synonyms: procedure, practice, pattern, drill, regimen; More
a set sequence in a performance such as a dance or comedy act.
"he was trying to persuade her to have a tap routine in the play"
synonyms: act, performance, number, turn, piece; More
COMPUTING
a sequence of instructions for performing a task that forms a program or a distinct part of one.
adjective
adjective: routine
1.
performed as part of a regular procedure rather than for a special reason.
"the principal insisted that this was just a routine annual drill"
synonyms: standard, regular, customary, normal, usual, ordinary, typical; More
antonyms: unusual
verbrare
verb: routine; 3rd person present: routines; past tense: routined; past participle: routined; gerund or present participle: routining
1.
organize according to a routine.
"all had been routined with smoothness"
 
US Conservative said:
No, I agree with him, not your flawed inferences. Merry Christmas, btw.
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No no no no. You posted this video and even quoted him saying, "We don't honor retail sales numbers. We honor the spirit of forgiveness and love. That's Christmas for me.". And you even defended him on this point as being "celebrating Christmas".... Then you randomly changed direction at one point to it "celebrating Christ's birth"... So... Whats the deal here bud? Is Stein suddenly wrong, and one of those "atheist leftys"?
 
US Conservative said:
rou·tine
ro͞oˈtēn/Submit
noun
1.
a sequence of actions regularly followed; a fixed program.
"I settled down into a routine of work and sleep"
synonyms: procedure, practice, pattern, drill, regimen; More
a set sequence in a performance such as a dance or comedy act.
"he was trying to persuade her to have a tap routine in the play"
synonyms: act, performance, number, turn, piece; More
COMPUTING
a sequence of instructions for performing a task that forms a program or a distinct part of one.
adjective
adjective: routine
1.
performed as part of a regular procedure rather than for a special reason.
"the principal insisted that this was just a routine annual drill"
synonyms: standard, regular, customary, normal, usual, ordinary, typical; More
antonyms: unusual
verbrare
verb: routine; 3rd person present: routines; past tense: routined; past participle: routined; gerund or present participle: routining
1.
organize according to a routine.
"all had been routined with smoothness"
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None of those definitions apply to my family.

Maybe yours, but not mine.
 
Peter King said:
I am celebrating x-mas but the question was whether or not I agreed with Ben Steins views on x-mas and I do not. I do not believe in gods so his religious view of what x-mas is, is not what I feel. I feel it is a nice festive season, the only presents we bought are for my 2 nephews and the will not be giving presents.
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Fair enough and merry Christmas btw.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
No no no no. You posted this video and even quoted him saying, "We don't honor retail sales numbers. We honor the spirit of forgiveness and love. That's Christmas for me.". And you even defended him on this point as being "celebrating Christmas".... Then you randomly changed direction at one point to it "celebrating Christ's birth"... So... Whats the deal here bud? Is Stein suddenly wrong, and one of those "atheist leftys"?
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A simple question-What historical event does Christmas celebrate?
 
US Conservative said:
Fair enough and merry Christmas btw.
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I wish the same to those who have a different view of x-mas. People should celebrate it how they want too because they and only they should decide what value they place on x-mas.

And a merry Christmas to you too (and I am using Christmas here because even though I celebrate x-mas, I assume you do celebrate the birth of Christ and I respect your celebration of his birth even though I do not celebrate it).
 
Peter King said:
I wish the same to those who have a different view of x-mas. People should celebrate it how they want too because they and only they should decide what value they place on x-mas.

And a merry Christmas to you too (and I am using Christmas here because even though I celebrate x-mas, I assume you do celebrate the birth of Christ and I respect your celebration of his birth even though I do not celebrate it).
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Do you mean that in the Netherlands Christmas and x-mas have distinctly different meanings?
 
US Conservative said:
A simple question-What historical event does Christmas celebrate?
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So you are changing your point for the meaning of the celebration of Christmas? It went from upholding Ben Steins of "forgiveness and love" to "birth of Christ"?
 
US Conservative said:
Are you not taking part in the celebrations, even if you personally dont believe?
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I do not celebrate the birth of christ, I celebrate the holiday season. I do not really celebrate anything except having a good last year maybe.
 
US Conservative said:
Do you mean that in the Netherlands Christmas and x-mas have distinctly different meanings?
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Well, as we speak different languages most do not call it Christmas or x-mas. Most of us call it kerstfeest, kerst or kerstmis. We do not have the name of Christ in our word for the holiday season.

The last one, kerstmis can be translated at the mass at kerst (24th of December at midnight). Feest stands for party/celebration and when it is combined with kerst as in kerstfeest, it just means the party/celebration on the 25th and 26th of December. And kerst is just the days of 25th and 26th of December (usually in combination with a nice meal on the 24th of December when most if not all companies close earlier and all shops close early so that everybody can be home on kerstavond (evening of the 24th of December).
 
TheDemSocialist said:
So you are changing your point for the meaning of the celebration of Christmas? It went from upholding Ben Steins of "forgiveness and love" to "birth of Christ"?
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We've already established that you celebrate Christmas.
You tell me what the religious holiday celebrates.
 
Peter King said:
Well, as we speak different languages most do not call it Christmas or x-mas. Most of us call it kerstfeest, kerst or kerstmis. We do not have the name of Christ in our word for the holiday season.

The last one, kerstmis can be translated at the mass at kerst (24th of December at midnight). Feest stands for party/celebration and when it is combined with kerst as in kerstfeest, it just means the party/celebration on the 25th and 26th of December. And kerst is just the days of 25th and 26th of December (usually in combination with a nice meal on the 24th of December when most if not all companies close earlier and all shops close early so that everybody can be home on kerstavond (evening of the 24th of December).
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So Kerstfeest means Christ celebration, no? Even if you aren't Christian aren't you celebrating the birth of Christ?
 
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