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Personal angst/pride, I think.Jesus. What's keeping this thread going?
Personal angst/pride, I think.Jesus. What's keeping this thread going?
Too bad we can't expect more.
And altering someone else's post...
Do YOU consider him black or white?
I shortened your post to get rid of the nonsensical fat. That you're still trying to stick around desperate to avoid the fact that you couldn't prove your claims is telling though. Jack, why do you this to yourself when you lose an argument? You did it when you couldn't clearly show why the hopes of unknown sources were relevant to the Iraq withdrawal agreement, you're doing it now. Is this an automatic reaction to not being able to argue your points?
Jesus. What's keeping this thread going?
You lost on Iraq and you lost here.
Still making it up as you go? Lol. You couldn't prove your assertions, Jack. How does it feel?
Elizabeth Warren has sometimes filled out forms claiming she is Native American. Other times claiming she is white. Which she filled out appears based upon which served her personally.
Does that constitute lying? Or being clever?
What evidence do you or for that matter Scott Brown have that she lied?
Elizabeth Warren has sometimes filled out forms claiming she is Native American. Other times claiming she is white. Which she filled out appears based upon which served her personally.
Does that constitute lying? Or being clever?
In my opinion the fact she has no real cultural connection makes it a lie regardless of her ancestry, I can truthfully state I'm 1/16 Native American and point you to a named relative of mine and which tribe half her ancestry was from (Lakota) but it would be dishonest for me to claim that for AA employment as I have no cultural connection and have suffered no discrimination as a result
Thanks.
In my opinion the fact she has no real cultural connection makes it a lie regardless of her ancestry, I can truthfully state I'm 1/16 Native American and point you to a named relative of mine and which tribe half her ancestry was from (Lakota) but it would be dishonest for me to claim that for AA employment as I have no cultural connection and have suffered no discrimination as a result
Did Warren receive the benefits of Affirmative Action?
No, the definition of Native American is not just ancestry, but also tribal membership for many tribes. A 100% white or 100% black person can be a "Native American" by their ancestry or in the present in many tribes. Unlike most "races," many tribes did not see people in racial terms, but in community or social terms. There is a distinction between what the government definitions of who is a Native American - and what various tribes say who is and isn't one of them. In addition, many Native Americans do not see themselves all as generically the same, while the government and most people do.
She is not Native American by either measure.
I asked this earlier. What was the last time (year or decade) that she checked the Native American box?
She put it in a recent book:
enator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) repeats her false claims of Native American ancestry in her new book, A Fighting Chance, which is scheduled for release next Tuesday.
"As a kid, I had learned about my Native American background the same way every kid learns about who they are: from family," Senator Warren writes in an excerpt published Wednesday in the Boston Globe.
Senator Warren then repeats a line she used often in her 2012 Senate campaign, memorialized in a September 2012 television commercial, writing "I never questioned my family’s stories or asked my parents for proof or documentation. What kid would?"
"Knowing who you are is one thing, and proving who you are is another," Warren writes.
In 2012 Breitbart News exhaustively documented the facts surrounding Senator Warren's claims of Native American ancestry and demonstrated that no credible evidence exists to support those claims. But lack of genealogical evidence has never stopped Senator Warren from boldly asserting as fact something which is flatly not true.
In May 2012, Warren's campaign offered two pieces of evidence, both quickly debunked, in a futile effort to prove her claim.
One piece of debunked evidence was her inclusion of Warren "family recipes" in the Pow Wow Chow Cookbook, published by the Five Civilized Tribes Museum of Muskogee, Oklahama in 1984. The book's publishers claimed all the recipes in the book were contributed by descendants of the five civilized tribes--Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminole.
Each recipe contributor identified the tribe from which he or she claimed to descend. In Senator Warren's case, she claimed to descend from the Cherokee tribe in each of her published recipes.
Two of the recipes contributed by Senator Warren as evidence of her Cherokee heritage and published in the Pow Wow Chow Cookbook, "Cold Omelets with Crab Meat" and "Crab with Tomato Mayonnaise Dressing" were copied from a 1979 New York Times News Service article by Pierre Franey.
A second piece of debunked evidence, a purported 1894 marriage license application which was said to list her great-great-grandmother as a Native American, was demonstrated not to exist.
Breitbart News and a noted Cherokee genealogist have documented there is no evidence to support Senator Warren's claim of Cherokee ancestry. There is evidence, however, that shows Senator Warren's great-great-great grandfather, Jonathan Crawford, was a member of the Tennessee militia in the 1830s who rounded up the local Cherokee as the first step in their forced "Trail of Tears" journey to Oklahoma.
The Globe reported Wednesday that Senator Warren writes in her book "I never asked for special treatment when I applied to college, to law school, or for jobs."
But, as Breitbart News reported in May 2012, Senator Warren has "[f]or twenty-five years since 1986, and without a shred of credible evidence . . . claimed to have Native American ancestry. She's made this claim, apparently, to three separate employers—the University of Texas Law School, the University of Pennsylvania Law School, and Harvard Law School. None apparently asked her for proof, nor did she offer any."
The Globe, which embarrassed itself so thoroughly with its inaccurate coverage of Senator Warren's ancestry claims in 2012 it had to issue a public correction to an article which falsely asserted there was documentary "evidence" of the Senator's Native American heritage, reverted to form on Wednesday and repeated Senator Warren’s falsehood: "Warren also devotes several pages to the sensitive subject of her partial Native American heritage," the paper wrote, without providing any new evidence for ancestry, partial or not.
Elizabeth Warren Repeats Her False Claims of Native American Ancestry in New Book
So 1984?
As for a form, 1984.. In writing, 2012. And it has been shown she lied as to proof she claimed.
Further, as a LAWYER, she understands - or could easily check - that her claim of 1/32nd Cherokee ancestry didn't cut it, including with Cherokees which required at least 1/16th. So even by her own claim, to claim minority status to Harvard was a lie. A fraud.
Of course, potentially a person could claim linkage to Cherokee tradition by DOING ANYTHING indicating ANYTHING the person is doing related to being Cherokee, other than using it for professional personal profit. She hasn't.
"Hire me! Vote for me! I am of military tradition. My grandfather won the Congressional Medal of Honor in WW1. I'm PROUD of the American military tradition of my family."
Response, "We looked, and your grandfather wasn't in the military. However, you great uncle was. He was a German soldier who got a medal for killing Americans."
To which Warren says, "well, I thought my grandfather had won the Congressional Medal of Honor, so I'm just going to keep using that to get ahead for the next 30 years anyway."
That's Elizabeth Warren.
She seems to be responding to her perception and point of view of the brouhaha. Not declaring something for the sake of employment. She is highly employable and electable without the connection.
WTH are you talking about?