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Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

  • Absolutely not -- part of her family denies it.

    Votes: 6 7.7%

  • Absolutely -- part of her family says it's true.

    Votes: 1 1.3%

  • How the hell would I know?

    Votes: 21 26.9%

  • I don't see why this is so unbelievable.

    Votes: 6 7.7%

  • Who cares?

    Votes: 53 67.9%

  • No, seriously, this is the least important issue in the history of anything ever.

    Votes: 26 33.3%
  • Total voters
    78
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Pretty cut and dried. Have at it.
 
I .... Don't care?
 
Cardinal said:
Pretty cut and dried. Have at it.
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Elizabeth had a grandma or someone who believed that an uncle or someone had face that looked kinda sorta like a Cherokee or Pamunky or Sioux.

That makes her part indian.
 
She must have something worthwhile to say for something this silly to be perceived as scandalworthy.
 
jimbo said:
Elizabeth had a grandma or someone who believed that an uncle or someone had face that looked kinda sorta like a Cherokee or Pamunky or Sioux.

That makes her part indian.
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Yet no evidence, and last I heard it was Cherokee and Delaware ... it's now Sioux or Pamunky? Granny got around... hehe
 
Unrepresented said:
She must have something worthwhile to say for something this silly to be perceived as scandalworthy.
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Well she claimed she was American Indian on job applications to Universities she taught at.
 
jimbo said:
Elizabeth had a grandma or someone who believed that an uncle or someone had face that looked kinda sorta like a Cherokee or Pamunky or Sioux.

That makes her part indian.
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So part of her ancestry comes from India? Huh.
 
cpwill said:
Do you care if she lied about it, meaning that she was falsely seeking racial advantage, harming the credibility of the system of affirmative action while also presumably denying a spot to the next actual minority in line, for her own professional and financial benefit?
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I dont know if she lied about it, dont know if she is part Native American, etc, and quite honestly dont really care.
 
cpwill said:
Do you care if she lied about it, meaning that she was falsely seeking racial advantage, harming the credibility of the system of affirmative action while also presumably denying a spot to the next actual minority in line, for her own professional and financial benefit?
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I don't know if she lied about it.
 
She seemed to honestly believe it and considers it part of her racial identity, I don't really have any basis to truly doubt her.

Then again, if we were going by the standard numerous posters were pushing just a few months back in terms of polls on certain native american related issues, unless she's officially recognized as a member of a tribe and actively living such a "lifestyle", or is full blooded, then she isn't a "real" native american. However I don't hold a that kind of opinion regarding peoples claims regarding native american heritage.

So I'd say...based on what her family has said, she may be, she may not be, but I think she honestly believes she is so don't really think much further about it.
 
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cpwill said:
Do you care if she lied about it, meaning that she was falsely seeking racial advantage, harming the credibility of the system of affirmative action while also presumably denying a spot to the next actual minority in line, for her own professional and financial benefit?
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I don't know that she lied, but IIRC Scott Brown tried to win the election on this issue. Scum bag.
 
No, the definition of Native American is not just ancestry, but also tribal membership for many tribes. A 100% white or 100% black person can be a "Native American" by their ancestry or in the present in many tribes. Unlike most "races," many tribes did not see people in racial terms, but in community or social terms. There is a distinction between what the government definitions of who is a Native American - and what various tribes say who is and isn't one of them. In addition, many Native Americans do not see themselves all as generically the same, while the government and most people do.

She is not Native American by either measure.
 
pbrauer said:
I don't know that she lied, but IIRC Scott Brown tried to win the election on this issue. Scum bag.
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The award for partisan message of the day is yours. It is a "scumbag" thing for a candidate to do to point out the other candidate is lying - but lying is just fine. At least you admit you are absolutely indifferent to truth, rather it's just who your team leaders are.
 
joko104 said:
The award for partisan message of the day is yours. It is a "scumbag" thing for a candidate to do to point out the other candidate is lying - but lying is just fine. At least you admit you are absolutely indifferent to truth, rather it's just who your team leaders are.
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What evidence do you or for that matter Scott Brown have that she lied?
 
I don't know about her, but I myself am 1/16 Slapasquaw.
 
pbrauer said:
I don't know that she lied, but IIRC Scott Brown tried to win the election on this issue. Scum bag.
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Scott Brown tried to win the election on being Scott Brown, not the issue of her Native American ancestry or not.

That said, he did hit her with it a few times, in an ad and in a debate. Sorry, but that's politics. If she can't handle it, she needs to find another vocation.
 
Who gives a damn? Why does anyone's genetic past mean anything to who or what they are today?
 
tres borrachos said:
How the hell would I know?

(That was my poll answer)
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Greetings, tres borrachos. :2wave:

Mine was "who cares?" which sums up my total interest very accurately! :lol: Now the candidate that tells us his great-granddaddy was abducted by extraterrestrials, who experimented on him, would be a different matter altogether - he would confirm a suspicion I have about most of them in DC today, since no one could be as out of touch with what the public wants unless his story was true! :lamo:
 
If she got financial benefit from her claim, yet cannot back up her claim. She should be compelled to pay it back.
 
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