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Does Anyone Actually Care What the Sexual Preference is of People Anymore?

Does Anyone Care What the Sexual Preference of Others is?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 13.6%

  • No

    Votes: 47 71.2%

  • Other

    Votes: 10 15.2%
  • Total voters
    66
MarineTpartier said:
Rebellion can be any number of things, not just homosexuality. It can be rebellion by repeatedly committing adultery, getting drunk, etc. All of those, by the way, are sins and are forgivable. There is no unforgivable sin no matter how many times you commit it. To say there is one would be a lie. Unlike the "organizations" you speak of, God will always accept someone back no matter how far they fall. That includes homosexuals. We, as Christians, are not meant to be the condemners. We are to continue to love all people, no matter their sin, and hope to have them accept Jesus Christ as their savior.
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Although I am not Christian, I think there is much value in your statement. I also believe that doing something over and over isn't really the point, as much as eventually realizing the error, and changing your own life. As for the homosexual issue, that is something that the majority of them have no choice in. It is their nature, and the way they were born. I don't expect a homosexual not to be him or herself, just as I don't expect a heterosexual not to act in accordance with his or her own nature. The things which I believe we should be concerned with, are the things which are choices, and which cause harm to others (theft, lying, cheating, killing, etc). I don't believe that "God" expects us to try and change something which is so heavily innate as sexual preference. If God does expect that, I am perfectly willing to let God and the individual deal with it, and I won't concern myself with it.
 
MarineTpartier said:
I'm not going to debate theology with you.
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Smart move. :thumbs: A Christian should never debate theology with someone who knows more about the Bible. It's a guaranteed loss.

A lot of atheist have actually read the entire Bible multiple times. That's how they became atheist. This is not true of Christians. They buy a new Bible every year, show it off, put it on a shelf and never read it. You should limit your debate to Christians. They are highly likely to know less than you. That way you will be able to win every single argument.

Never debate theology with an atheist. They know their stuff.
 
lizzie said:
Although I am not Christian, I think there is much value in your statement. I also believe that doing something over and over isn't really the point, as much as eventually realizing the error, and changing your own life. As for the homosexual issue, that is something that the majority of them have no choice in. It is their nature, and the way they were born. I don't expect a homosexual not to be him or herself, just as I don't expect a heterosexual not to act in accordance with his or her own nature. The things which I believe we should be concerned with, are the things which are choices, and which cause harm to others (theft, lying, cheating, killing, etc). I don't believe that "God" expects us to try and change something which is so heavily innate as sexual preference. If God does expect that, I am perfectly willing to let God and the individual deal with it, and I won't concern myself with it.
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I love the bolded quote. Best perspective I've heard from someone that isn't a Christian.
 
lizzie said:
I don't expect a homosexual not to be him or herself, just as I don't expect a heterosexual not to act in accordance with his or her own nature.
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If the average man lived by this standard every single male both heterosexual and homosexual would be in jail for sexual assault. This argument is so weak. Some women have really nice boobies. Some women have really hot buns. Do you really expect heterosexual men to act in accordance with his own nature? If we tolerated this kind of barbaric behavior then women would never leave their houses. Women would be forced to wear chastity belts and iron bras.

Don't you also notice how little kids are violent with their siblings but are trained to learn this is inappropriate? Imagine how many times the average male would punch someone in the face if he acted on his impulse just because that's who he is.

We are not a society of barbarians. We do not tolerate people to act on who they are. The reason that we make an exception for homosexuals is because they have fought hard for the right to be given an exception. Otherwise we'd be ignoring the issue altogether. Through organized efforts they have brought this discussion to the forefront.
 
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vasuderatorrent said:
Smart move. :thumbs: A Christian should never debate theology with someone who knows more about the Bible. It's a guaranteed loss.

A lot of atheist have actually read the entire Bible multiple times. That's how they became atheist. This is not true of Christians. They buy a new Bible every year, show it off, put it on a shelf and never read it. You should limit your debate to Christians. They are highly likely to know less than you. That way you will be able to win every single argument.

Never debate theology with an atheist. They know their stuff.
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But see...you don't. That's the problem. I've already shown that twice my friend. You have twice misrepresented the beliefs of Christians and twice I've proven you wrong. However, if you want to claim victory, it's yours man. I'm not here for a mine's bigger than yours competition. I'm just here for a good honest debate. Misrepresenting the Bible then claiming "victory" isn't good honest debate. It's an escape tactic of someone that realizes that stumbled upon another person they underestimated. Just because my user name says Tea Party in it does not mean I'm a big mouth buffoon who believes all others should believe as me or burn in hell.
 
MarineTpartier said:
But see...you don't. That's the problem. I've already shown that twice my friend. You have twice misrepresented the beliefs of Christians and twice I've proven you wrong. However, if you want to claim victory, it's yours man. I'm not here for a mine's bigger than yours competition. I'm just here for a good honest debate. Misrepresenting the Bible then claiming "victory" isn't good honest debate. It's an escape tactic of someone that realizes that stumbled upon another person they underestimated. Just because my user name says Tea Party in it does not mean I'm a big mouth buffoon who believes all others should believe as me or burn in hell.
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You have neither represented or misrepresented the Bible. You have told me what Christians think. We agree on that.

The Bible is crystal clear on this matter. It's not really too much of a debate. Your Bible says the same thing that mine says. You have probably read the Bible more times than me. You know what it says.

Btw: I voted 'no' in this poll.
 
MarineTpartier said:
I don't know about you guys, but I'm sick and tired of hearing about everyone's sexual preference. This includes celebrities, athletes, politicians, and even Joe Schmo the regular guy. I dont care and never did. Just live your life and be with who you want to be with. The rest of us dont need to know what is going on in your bedroom. Just wondering if anyone else feels this way.
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But you do realize, don't you, that for right-wing evangelicals, what goes on in our bedrooms IS their business because they've got to protect 'Merica from godless communism....
 
vasuderatorrent said:
You have neither represented or misrepresented the Bible. You have told me what Christians think. We agree on that.

The Bible is crystal clear on this matter. It's not really too much of a debate. Your Bible says the same thing that mine says. You have probably read the Bible more times than me. You know what it says.

Btw: I voted 'no' in this poll.
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Yes, I do know what it says. You saying rebellion can't be forgiven and misrepresenting Timothy 5:20 are your two mistakes so far my friend. I provided examples of why those two things were wrong. Acquiescing to this and moving on would be proper at this point and would allow this line of debate to conclude.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
But you do realize, don't you, that for right-wing evangelicals, what goes on in our bedrooms IS their business because they've got to protect 'Merica from godless communism....
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I didn't know all communists were gay. Please provide links to this breaking news.
 
MarineTpartier said:
I didn't know all communists were gay. Please provide links to this breaking news.
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Didn't say they were, did I? But those on the Left are a whole lot more likely to be tolerant of LGBT's than those on the Right...and we on the Left are everywhere. Just think about that the next time you're showering in the base gym....
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Didn't say they were, did I? But those on the Left are a whole lot more likely to be tolerant of LGBT's than those on the Right...and we on the Left are everywhere. Just think about that the next time you're showering in the base gym....
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Ha! You make it sound like the left is a gay communist cult..........or is it?
 
MarineTpartier said:
So why not just go out on a date or something else in the public eye? That's what most heterosexual, celebrity couples do. I just don't get the need for the attention grab first is all.
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Because it is the most simple way. Most people assume everyone else is straight, people have to tell others they are gay. Also, it is a good thing that people in the public eye do make public declarations of their homosexuality because it helps normalize it in the culture, and that is what the movement is really all about.
 
TeleKat said:
While this is true, there are gay and lesbian bars where most people you encounter will be gay/bi. That helps a ton when it comes to dating.
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Well, that explains why I can't ever get laid at lesbian bars.
 
Helix said:
a child cannot consent. raping a child of either sex is rape, and this is not analogous to homosexual adults who want to marry.



neither homosexuality nor heterosexuality is analogous to pedophilia because a child cannot consent to sex.
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Consent is a red herring. Has nothing to do with the real definitions.
 
Flamethrower said:
Consent is a red herring. Has nothing to do with the real definitions.
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yeah, consent is a red herring. the red herring between rape and not rape.

your analogy has been debunked. homosexuality is not analogous to pedophilia or bestiality because neither a child or an animal can consent to sex. an adult homosexual can.
 
Helix said:
yeah, consent is a red herring. the red herring between rape and not rape.

your analogy has been debunked. homosexuality is not analogous to pedophilia or bestiality because neither a child or an animal can consent to sex. an adult homosexual can.
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Only debunked by the same narrow-minded theorists with a global political agenda.



Pedophilia

Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger.

Pedophilia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The core defintion of a pedophile has nothing to do with consent.
 
Flamethrower said:
Only debunked by the same narrow-minded theorists with a global political agenda.



Pedophilia

Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger.

Pedophilia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The core defintion of a pedophile has nothing to do with consent.
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it's still not analogous to homosexuality, because an adult homosexual can consent to sex, while a child cannot. consent absolutely matters. your analogy is flawed.
 
Helix said:
it's still not analogous to homosexuality, because an adult homosexual can consent to sex, while a child cannot. consent absolutely matters. your analogy is flawed.
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I could give the same core definition of "homosexual"---but I'd get the same broken record of consent...consent...
 
Flamethrower said:
You can believe anything you want. Free country.

However, although the PC police say otherwise, any male pedophile that rapes a male child is commiting a homosexual act and has an obvious sexual attraction to male boys.

If there was some sort of anger issue, as the PC liberals suggest in pedophillia---then almost all pedophiles would each randomly molest girls and boys during their sexual conquests. However, child rapists are virtually always sexually selective, and 3/4 of the time, it is a heterosexual man raping a girl.
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If a male pedophile molests boys but has absolutely no sexual attraction or interest in adult men then you believe he is gay? What is he molests boy and girls?
 
CriticalThought said:
If a male pedophile molests boys but has absolutely no sexual attraction or interest in adult men then you believe he is gay? What is he molests boy and girls?
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He is a homosexaual, and a pedophile.

A rarity, a man who rapes both boys and girls would be a bi-sexual, pedophile---and probably "gay."
 
Flamethrower said:
I could give the same core definition of "homosexual"---but I'd get the same broken record of consent...consent...
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because.....

consent is the difference between a consensual relationship and rape.

pedophillic sex or bestiality = rape

sex between two adult homosexuals = not rape
 
Helix said:
because.....

consent is the difference between a consensual relationship and rape.

pedophillic sex or bestiality = rape

sex between two adult homosexuals = not rape
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I'm sorry, but that was way too meta for me, could you repeat that again?

Anyway, in answer to the question in the title, I don't know if I care what people's sexual orientations are, but the OP sure as hell does.
 
Flamethrower said:
He is a homosexaual, and a pedophile.

A rarity, a man who rapes both boys and girls would be a bi-sexual, pedophile---and probably "gay."
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Interesting. I disagree in that I believe that attraction, not behavior, is the determining factor. You are entitled to your opinion. The DSM designates pedophilia as a disorder and homosexuality is not considered one.
 
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