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2016 Republican Presidential Primary (2nd Poll, this time multiple choice)

2016 Republican Presidential Primary (Pick as many as you want)


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nice nonsense. we get the fact that you think your hero would fare best against Palin. Palin's history

Actually quite the opposite. I understand that Palin is history....but given THAT list of sorry "front runners"....Palin would stand a better chance in the election than any of them. Sorry....but that is just the honest truth. The GOP better have something up their sleeve because none of these clowns are going to cut it.
 
Actually quite the opposite. I understand that Palin is history....but given THAT list of sorry "front runners"....Palin would stand a better chance in the election than any of them. Sorry....but that is just the honest truth. The GOP better have something up their sleeve because none of these clowns are going to cut it.

I am laughing at this hackery. this is coming from a guy who worships hillary and claims people like Rand Paul is a jok

YOu don't believe Palin would have any chance and neither do I
 
You are wrong about mostly everything you just said.

Moderate/Liberal Republicans don't count. Tea Party Republicans favor small government.

Don't bring Bush into this. We got attacked, there was a War. They recently found out there were WMD's. It requires a lot of grand strategic planning to win a war.

Obama to the right? No offense that's the most foolish thing anyone has ever said.

So how are you going to delete this thread?
 
I made another poll late last year. http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/181089-2016-republican-primary.html

This time, with some candidates not running, and some new big names running, I'm making another poll. This time I'm adding multiple choice. Feel free to vote for as little or many as you'd like.

PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME WHY I DIDN'T ADD SO & SO. I MEAN YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT, BUT I'M GONNA ANSWER NOW. THESE ARE MY PERSONAL GUESSES - NOT NECESSARILY ENDORSEMENTS - JUST WHO I'M GUESSING IS MOST LIKELY TO RUN, AND OF THE 10 BIGGEST NAMES AND MOST LIKELY TO BE THE TOP 10 CANDIDATES. I COULD BE RIGHT, I COULD BE WRONG. SO WHILE YOU CAN REPLY WITH WHAT YOU WANT, I DO WANT TO MAKE THIS POLL LESS ABOUT WHO YOU THINK WILL RUN OR NOT RUN, AND MORE ABOUT WHICH CANDIDATES YOU LIKE OR DON'T LIKE, AND WHY.

Let's have fun with this discussion!

Today on the Republican side, my first choice would be Kasich, second Pence. Of those on your list if I had to pick one would be Jeb Bush. The rest really do not interest me, although a pre-bridgegate Christie probably had the best chance of winning of all those listed in 2016.
 
I am laughing at this hackery. this is coming from a guy who worships hillary and claims people like Rand Paul is a jok

YOu don't believe Palin would have any chance and neither do I

Rand Paul IS a joke. BTW....I don't worship Hilary at all. I would support her, but I would much prefer Elizabth Warren. Hilary and Bill are both too middle of the road for my tastes and their foreign policy is too close in line with the neo-cons. That said...I understand the political realities of having a true liberal elected and will accept what we can actually get. Do I think Palin could get elected? Absolutely not....but I also don't believe that any of the current "front-runners" on this list stand a chance is hell either. I honestly believe that Palin (not gonna happen) would probably make a better showing that any of the others here though (with the exception of maybe Christie...who will never get the GOP nomination).
 
What a sorry list. There isn't a name on that list that stands a realistic chance. Sarah Palin would beat all of them. The GOP's best shot is running Romney again.

The only contest Palin would win is a beauty contest and possibly a drinking one. She doesnt even have a positive favorable rating in Alaska
 
Where is John Kasich and Rob Portman. far more likely candidates than no chancers like Bolton

Gotta agree Bolton seems like it came from left field. Portman was heavily mentioned for VP in 2012 and hes a moderate from a swing state a very attractive candidate although I wouldnt vote for him
 
The Republicans are an anti-freedom party of big, excessive government and the Bush presidency was a failure of epic proportions on all levels. No other President was such a threat to basic civil and human rights as Bush, and thanks to him, the Middle East is a total mess now and we have to deal with ISIS. Cleaning up Bush's mess will take decades.

The Democrats at least are spot on on many general ideas, although the execution is lacking and they got not much through due to extremist-uncompromising Republican obstruction. IMO.

I agree with the Americans who say the Dems have moved from the left into the center (Obama is a center-right politician) and the Reps have moved into an insane asylum (thanks to Tea Party and so on).

Nice to see that the outside view of American politics is just as ignorant as America's view of the rest of the world
 
There's a very obvious disconnect between what Teaparty Republicans, claim and what they do.

Theres a very obvious disconnect between the actual tea party views and what MSNBC told you they were
 
The only ones on that list that would have even a chance of winning the general election would be Jeb Bush and Scott Walker. I don't think Rand Paul could win the general, and the rest would do good to pick up 10 states.

Of the possible GOP candidates, these are the ones I think stand the best chance of actually winning in 2016 should they run:

John Kasich
Jeb Bush
Mike Pence
Rob Portman
Scott Walker
Mitt Romney
and possibly should he actually decide to run, Jeff Flake.

I don't get the Republican primary voter mindset that makes them think some total nutjob like Ben Carson would stand even the most remote chance of ever winning a general election in today's America.
 
Yes, often. But Mitt Romney isn't taking the steps necessary to build a campaign team like he had done before.

Those steps don't even usually start until about december and they arent known to the general public until months later
 
I would never catch myself voting for any of the above. However, if I had to choose the least terrible candidate, I'd probably shoot for Rand Paul. He definitely has his problems but he generally seems to be a bit more reasonable on the issues important to me than the rest on that list. Looks like he's in favor of some sort of amnesty, he doesn't want to bomb countries left and right, he's *ok* on civil liberties (though he seems to be selling himself out on that as the election gets closer), he's against the war on drugs, etc.

Ted Cruz is a total nutjob. Christie is an authoritarian idiot. Jeb Bush...we don't need another Bush in office. Bobby Jindal same as Cruz. Ben Carson has next to no experience and has made his political career thus far only on trashing Obama at some dinner and talking about how bad Obamacare is. Rick Santorum is an absolute theocrat. Rick Perry is a criminal. Scott Walker/John Bolton I don't know enough about them.

you wouldn't vote for someone because you dont like their last name? Ladies and gentlemen your average presidential voter, hard to say Gruber's opinion about the general public was wrong
 
Ted Cruz is a total nutjob. Christie is an authoritarian idiot. Jeb Bush...we don't need another Bush in office. Bobby Jindal same as Cruz. Ben Carson has next to no experience and has made his political career thus far only on trashing Obama at some dinner and talking about how bad Obamacare is. Rick Santorum is an absolute theocrat. Rick Perry is a criminal. Scott Walker/John Bolton I don't know enough about them.

Ben Carson makes Rick Santorum look like Richard Dawkins.
 
The only contest Palin would win is a beauty contest and possibly a drinking one. She doesnt even have a positive favorable rating in Alaska

If you read carefully, I never said Palin would win anything...but neither will any of the others in the current list of GOP "front runners". I stand by my comment that Palin (while she would never win) would probably put up a better showing than pretty much any of these others.

(You KNOW its bad when Romney is currently running 15-20 points higher than anyone else...and he has said he won't run. Clearly, the voters do not like ANY of those mentioned as possible contenders for the 2016 GOP nod).
 
If you read carefully, I never said Palin would win anything...but neither will any of the others in the current list of GOP "front runners". I stand by my comment that Palin (while she would never win) would probably put up a better showing than pretty much any of these others.

(You KNOW its bad when Romney is currently running 15-20 points higher than anyone else...and he has said he won't run. Clearly, the voters do not like ANY of those mentioned as possible contenders for the 2016 GOP nod).

How exactly would Palin do better than any of the other candidates in the general election if she couldnt win the GOP primary? Shes not exactly a moderate
 
How many times has some one said that 2 years before election, then ran? Alot.

He already ran twice, and I think he's done at his age of 67.
 
I'm not American and can't vote in America, but if things remain as they look now, the one candidate from any party will get my sympathy who has the harshest, iron-proof hardline course towards Russia, by default.

If I were American, I'd probably prefer the Democrats, as IMO they have better domestic policy ideas. But since I'm not living in America, I focus on foreign policy. And I'll root for the one candidate who is determined breaking Russia's economic neck and seriously brings the goal of regime change there on the table -- while at the same time being determined to support America's NATO allies in Europe, to save our whiny, sorry asses once again. No matter if Dem or Rep.

So I can't cast a vote in this poll until I know their stances on Russia better. This is not the time for the slightest bit of appeasement.

Easy answer: Romney in 2012 argued that Russia was the US' greatest geopolitical foe, and needed to be contained. The response of the Obama administration (whose foreign policy was then headed by Hillary, the presumptive Democrat nominee) was to make fun of him, arguing that he was, like, so outdated and stuff, and, like, relations with Russia had been reset and we, like, only had to, like, give them space, and be flexible, and stuff, and they, like, would then have the security to be reasonable, and stuff.


So.... with a few exceptions (Rand Paul comes to mind), the vast majority of the people on that list are going to be harder on Russia than their opposition.
 
The only ones on that list that would have even a chance of winning the general election would be Jeb Bush and Scott Walker. I don't think Rand Paul could win the general, and the rest would do good to pick up 10 states.

Of the possible GOP candidates, these are the ones I think stand the best chance of actually winning in 2016 should they run:

John Kasich
Jeb Bush
Mike Pence
Rob Portman
Scott Walker
Mitt Romney
and possibly should he actually decide to run, Jeff Flake.

I don't get the Republican primary voter mindset that makes them think some total nutjob like Ben Carson would stand even the most remote chance of ever winning a general election in today's America.

Yeah, how crazy to think that an erudite, cerebral, minority candidate would be able to win a general election despite lacking any serious national political experience, huh? :lol: Cause that would never happen. :lol:


Bobby Jindal would be a good President, but I don't know if he is able to maintain the commanding presence necessary to win a primary. Last election, however, the Democrats didn't even bother to run anyone against him.

Scott Walker won three elections in four years in a purple state while taking on public sector unions. He's proven he can win in purple area's with conservative ideas, but without taking the kinds of ideological positions that make him unpalatable to the base (Jeb Bush, Chris Christie). He's the best bet, really.
 
How exactly would Palin do better than any of the other candidates in the general election if she couldnt win the GOP primary? Shes not exactly a moderate

I said if she COULD get the nomination....she would do better than any of the current front runners in the GE. It was more of a comment on the sorry lot of potential candidates than it was about Palin.
 
I said if she COULD get the nomination....she would do better than any of the current front runners in the GE. It was more of a comment on the sorry lot of potential candidates than it was about Palin.

How would Palin do better in the GE if she doesnt have the ability to win the GOP nomination? I could see that argument if it was a moderate or left center GOP candidate but a far right winger like Palin that comment seems ignorant at best.
 
How would Palin do better in the GE if she doesnt have the ability to win the GOP nomination? I could see that argument if it was a moderate or left center GOP candidate but a far right winger like Palin that comment seems ignorant at best.

Because Palin has a rabid fan base. She would rile up the masses and get them excited in ways that the current hum-drum candidates can not. Problem for her is that she doesn't have enough fans to win the GE....
 
Because Palin has a rabid fan base. She would rile up the masses and get them excited in ways that the current hum-drum candidates can not. Problem for her is that she doesn't have enough fans to win the GE....

If she doesnt have enough fans to win the GOP nomination there is no way she could do the best in the general election since there isnt anyone outside the GOP that would vote for her.
 
If she doesnt have enough fans to win the GOP nomination there is no way she could do the best in the general election since there isnt anyone outside the GOP that would vote for her.

You are missing the point. Have you seen the latest polling for the GOP nod? Romney is outpolling all of them...by wide margins. Why? Because nobody likes any of the current choices. None of them has any capacity to excite the electorate. The only thing that is going to bring the right-wingers out will be their hatred of Hilary.
 
Bobby Jindal would be a good President, but I don't know if he is able to maintain the commanding presence necessary to win a primary.

Any doubt....watch his deer in the headlights response speech a few years back.
 
Gotta agree Bolton seems like it came from left field. Portman was heavily mentioned for VP in 2012 and hes a moderate from a swing state a very attractive candidate although I wouldnt vote for him

I agree with Portman on most issues. I have known for at least 7 years his son was gay and I figured he'd change on gay marriage. His "pro-life" position is a bit contrived: his family were Pro choice republicans long before that was popular. His two biggest backers in Cincinnati, RIchard Farmer (CINTAS-uniform company), a conservative catholic and Carl Lindner Jr (United Dairy Farmers, Chiquita brand foods), a conservative Baptist, caused his "change"

He's pretty good on gun issues, very good on taxes and budget issues, is brighter than most of the other candidates (Dartmouth and U of Michigan Law school) and actually is not in politics to get rich (he was already wealthy before he gained office)

far smarter than Hildabeast
 
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