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Obama's Executive Order[W:265]

Is Obama breaking the law?

  • Yes, by his own words he is breaking the law

    Votes: 36 48.6%
  • No, perfectly legal

    Votes: 13 17.6%
  • Doing same as Regan and Bush did

    Votes: 13 17.6%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 3 4.1%
  • Dont care

    Votes: 3 4.1%
  • Go Fish

    Votes: 6 8.1%

  • Total voters
    74
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That is incorrect. There are dozens of bills that have been sitting on Harry Reid's desk - many of them bipartisan - that have passed the House. The guy responsible for nothing happening in Congress is the current (and soon to be ex) majority leader.



Reid has done the same thing as Boener regarding bills, but most of the bills passed by the House are nonsense bills that they knew in advance would never get through the senate.
 
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Like ****, just like this one did, but they can no longer blame the democrats for not getting anything done. It is on them now.

Oh...I'm thinking that logjam on Harry's desk is going to be broken loose. If that stuff is passed by the Republican Senate, that could be considered "getting something done", don't you think?

Plus, there will be the added benefit of Obama having to get something done.
 
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Oh...I'm thinking that logjam on Harry's desk is going to be broken loose. If that stuff is passed by the Republican Senate, that could be considered "getting something done", don't you think?

Plus, there will be the added benefit of Obama having to get something done.




Could be, but we will just have to wait and see.
 
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It appears that Obama is beginning to take heat from the black community for his executive ord...I mean, memo.



And there is more at this page: Black Activists Speak Out against Obama Amnesty*Agenda - Amy Ridenour's National Center Blog - A Conservative Blog


So...this doesn't sound good for Obama and the Democrats. This very well could affect the black vote in 2016. Now, I don't really think black voters will turn to Republicans over just this issue, but I do think it could cause black voters to stay home. I wonder if Democrats are comfortable taking that kind of hit.

I looked up this Project 21. It's a group of black conservatives that nobody has heard of. Hell, their website looks like something from Geocities.

Project 21 - Black Conservative Leadership Network

Yeah, stop playing the race card. It's not working this late in the game. Specially when you don't know what it is you're discussing.
 
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BO's executive amnesty violates the laws Congress has passed in order to create and implement laws Congress has refused to pass. BO is providing an estimated 5 million illegal immigrants with social security numbers, photo IDs and work permits—allowing them to now take jobs directly from struggling Americans.

Meaning they can access almost all U.S. welfare programs and will with State Welfare Programs too.

Call your congressman and tell them to pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill. Have them do their jobs so the Pres doesn't have to do it for them.
 
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I looked up this Project 21. It's a group of black conservatives that nobody has heard of. Hell, their website looks like something from Geocities.

Project 21 - Black Conservative Leadership Network

Yeah, stop playing the race card. It's not working this late in the game. Specially when you don't know what it is you're discussing.

Really?? Posting the link to an article that displays the viewpoint of black leaders is "playing the race card"??? LOL!! :doh

Now...for sure, this is a conservative group, but if you think nobody's heard of them...well, you would be more accurate if you said, "I haven't heard of them". Here is the bio of just one of this group's members:

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Horace Cooper is an adjunct fellow with the National Center for Public Policy Research, co-chairman of the Project 21 National Advisory Board and a legal commentator.

Horace averages over 400 talk radio appearances per year representing Project 21, in addition to regular television appearances and interviews by the print media, also for Project 21.

Horace taught constitutional law at George Mason University in Virginia and was general counsel to U.S. House Majority Leader Dick Armey.
 
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I'm not sure why you even responded to my post. Not only was it NOT directed at you and I said nothing about what Obama's "aim in life" is...but you didn't even answer the question that I asked of pbrauer.

All in all, I'd have to say you made a useless post.



Well, it doesn't matter who it was directed to. It "is" a public forum. It may have been useless to you, but who really cares.
 
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I was thinking along the same lines. Give someone enough rope and....


But it is odd. You would think that in such unsettling times with so many juicy issues that the gop would play a more pleasing tune.



They don't know how. It isn't in their nature.
 
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Yes, they're a group of black conservatives nobody has heard about. The fact that you think Democrats will lose the black vote because an unknown black conservative group doesn't like something Obama is saying is laughable.

Posting the link to an article that displays the viewpoint of black leaders is "playing the race card"??? LOL!! :doh

Black leaders? They're literally an unknown group that nobody has heard of. What rallies have they conducted? What dinner events have they hosted? What community are they known in? What neighborhood have they set up shop up? Hell, have you taken a look at their website? An html website claiming a lot of things for people who nobody has ever heard of before this. Be honest, had you heard of this group before this?

Now...for sure, this is a conservative group, but if you think nobody's heard of them...well, you would be more accurate if you said, "I haven't heard of them". Here is the bio of just one of this group's members:

I haven't heard of them? Seems like nobody has. I went and looked up news reports about anything they'd done in the past 3 years. They're only mentioned on a blog (run by one of its members), an O'Reilley appearance a year ago and this Horace Cooper pled guilty in the Jack Abramoff scandal. Lol. You've got to be kidding if you think these people are a sign that the black community will turn its back on Democrats.
 
I don't recall a POTUS basically saying 'screw Congress, I am doing it anyway' as often as this one has.

For a guy that started out with such praise, he is in danger (imo) of being relegated to the history books (assuming Obamacare gets repealed eventually) as noteworthy for the amount of melanin in his skin, his six pack abs and little else.
 
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I believe that he said three years.

So assuming that is accurate. Will it be easier to deport 5 million illegal aliens in three years, or is this just a ruse, and the truth is the President has granted a permanent modified amnesty?
 
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It's not dishonest because you say it is. Please point to a time in recent history where the government was more partisan and more dysfunctional.

YOu have a point about recent history. I am 65 years old and have avidly been following politics since I was a teen and cannot remember a period of such division and outright hatred for the other side. Much of it has to do with the purging of both parties of their opposite wings - GOP has lost its liberals while the Dems have lost its conservative wing.... and to some extent lots of moderates as well in both parties. This is as a result of the worst sort of gerrymandering which benefits members of both parties creating safe non competitive seats. Then we have the politicizing of the news and media which only allows a person to wallow in their own ideology without having to feel threatened by a different voice telling them things that might be challenging to their belief system.

I think you have to go back to the period before the Civil War to find a comparable period of such hatred and division. When I taught US History for many years, we had a textbook with a chapter on that period titled THE FAILURE OF THE POLITICIANS. Very accurate title which seems to fit today as well.

Sadly, we know how all that turned out.
 
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YOu have a point about recent history. I am 65 years old and have avidly been following politics since I was a teen and cannot remember a period of such division and outright hatred for the other side. Much of it has to do with the purging of both parties of their opposite wings - GOP has lost its liberals while the Dems have lost its conservative wing.... and to some extent lots of moderates as well in both parties. This is as a result of the worst sort of gerrymandering which benefits members of both parties creating safe non competitive seats. Then we have the politicizing of the news and media which only allows a person to wallow in their own ideology without having to feel threatened by a different voice telling them things that might be challenging to their belief system.

I think you have to go back to the period before the Civil War to find a comparable period of such hatred and division. When I taught US History for many years, we had a textbook with a chapter on that period titled THE FAILURE OF THE POLITICIANS. Very accurate title which seems to fit today as well.

Sadly, we know how all that turned out.

You bring up an interesting point,which is 24 hour news channels. They have so much time to fill they use entertainment, drama, sensationalism and opinion to fill the airwaves. I'll admit that I enjoy some of that but it helps to solidify opinions one side or the other of a topic. in general I think that adds to the polarization of the electorate.
 
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Yes, yes we know you enjoy making subjective statements which can't be proven one way or another. :shrug:

It is my observation. If you really cared you know you can find anything on the net. Satisfy your curiosity. Other than that, thanks for the input.
 
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From day one of Obama's 1st term Limbaugh and the party he leads, the G-nO-P, have hoped that America would fail to recover from the depression that Bush mis-led America into so that they could say Obama had failed.

But America didn't fail, and Obama hasn't failed. Whether you like it or not he'll be leading the USA until another Democrat takes his place.

Deal with it. :roll:

I agree with you that Obama hasn't failed. America and American government is failing. Real unemployment is in double digits, although what the government reports is around 6%. Food stamp consumption is at an all time high. We just imported millions of Central Americans who will be a drain on our economy, some of whom carry the enterovirus causing an outbreak in public schools. Internationally we've ruined relationships with our ally's, emboldened our enemies, lost the peace in Iraq and sent high ranking terrorists back to the fight in the Middle East.

Obama has been a success. His plan for the destruction of America is well underway.
 
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Well, it doesn't matter who it was directed to. It "is" a public forum. It may have been useless to you, but who really cares.

Your're right...when you post stuff like that, who cares?
 
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As the President is the one who has undocumented people deported, he is certainly the one who can defer such deportations.

Mornin' Juanita.
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This doesn't give him the Right to create any New Program.

Also his lame excuse as to Congress had failed to send him a bill......was just his usual. Another lie.
 
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Yes, they're a group of black conservatives nobody has heard about. The fact that you think Democrats will lose the black vote because an unknown black conservative group doesn't like something Obama is saying is laughable.



Black leaders? They're literally an unknown group that nobody has heard of. What rallies have they conducted? What dinner events have they hosted? What community are they known in? What neighborhood have they set up shop up? Hell, have you taken a look at their website? An html website claiming a lot of things for people who nobody has ever heard of before this. Be honest, had you heard of this group before this?



I haven't heard of them? Seems like nobody has. I went and looked up news reports about anything they'd done in the past 3 years. They're only mentioned on a blog (run by one of its members), an O'Reilley appearance a year ago and this Horace Cooper pled guilty in the Jack Abramoff scandal. Lol. You've got to be kidding if you think these people are a sign that the black community will turn its back on Democrats.

Oh...I'll admit these people aren't as well-known nationally as, say, Al Sharpton...btw, now THERE'S a black activist we can all be proud of, eh? Trying to bilk the government out of millions and then blaming it on Republicans who don't like Obama because he's black. Talk about playing the race card, eh? Maybe they need to rise to Sharpton's level of black activism before they'll be noticed.
 
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Reid has done the same thing as Boener regarding bills, but most of the bills passed by the House are nonsense bills that they knew in advance would never get through the senate.

I refer to my earlier post on this.

That's not true in any sense, by any measure.

Senate sitting on 290 bills already passed by House; tension mounts | TheHill

Even the House Democrats complain about the bi-partisan supported bills passed by the House that went to die in Harry Reid's desk and his Senate.

So non sequitur, your facts are confused.
 
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Actually its my observation of the last six years.

And I would contend a fairly accurate one.

I wanted a President who would have broken off their raised middle finger and shoved it up their posterior. Sadly, Obama is not a street fightin man. Which only played into the hands of the GOP.

Right, so youre cheering him on, the imperialism.
 
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This Congress has refused to work with this President on most issues and, unfortunately, will continue to do so.

That is within their power. And nothing is stopping voters from removing them from office. Just the contrary they elected MORE republicans to obstruct Obama.
 
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He didn't DO anything. All he did was defer deportation for a short period of time.

He is not enforcing the law, which requires punishment for entering the US without approval. He is also handing out work permits and other benefits, which citizens have earned.
 
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Right, so youre cheering him on, the imperialism.

Allow me to ask you a simple question and I hope you can answer it for me: Can you quote me the law which Obama has broken with these actions?

Yes - I get it that the Congress writes the laws and the President carries them out or executes them. No problem. And that is why the entire growth of presidential power under both parties over the last several decades does indeed bother me. But what specific law has Obama broken with these actions now?
 
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Allow me to ask you a simple question and I hope you can answer it for me: Can you quote me the law which Obama has broken with these actions?

Yes - I get it that the Congress writes the laws and the President carries them out or executes them. No problem. And that is why the entire growth of presidential power under both parties over the last several decades does indeed bother me. But what specific law has Obama broken with these actions now?

Is that law (the US constitution itself) not sufficient for you?
 
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