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Has getting older made you more conservative?

Are you more conservative now than you were years ago?

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I've become more conservative as I've gotten older. I was a pretty far-left liberal in college, and I've become more moderate since then. I'm not sure if I'll keep getting more conservative or not.
 
KevinKohler said:
My dad loved Ross Perot.

I believe that Ross Perot's beliefs are short sighted, because the beliefs of the people he wanted to empower, the "employers" of this country, are short sighted, by design. Their job is to maximize profit. Not to ensure a healthy economy. A bunch of individuals acting with the collective interest of maximizing individual profits would (will?) doom this country.
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I worked on both his campaigns and I never saw what you're talking about. His main objective was bring the debt to the people's attention. Very little else did he ever campaign on. In fact he told us on numerous occasions to stay out of social issue. Those are to be decided by the individuals involved. This is the first I ever heard of that.

But I fail to see how he could empower them. The employers as you put it, the corporations, wall street, lobbyist were busy giving their money to the Republicans and Democrats. Apparently those employers had more faith in those parties than Ross's.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
A common political theory is that the older voters get, the more conservative they become. Let's put this theory to the test here at DP.
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I voted yes, but it really depends on what you mean by "conservative."

I have a lot more faith in government than I used to.....


...faith that they're going to mess things up and cost us money, that is.
 
Perotista said:
I worked on both his campaigns and I never saw what you're talking about. His main objective was bring the debt to the people's attention. Very little else did he ever campaign on. In fact he told us on numerous occasions to stay out of social issue. Those are to be decided by the individuals involved. This is the first I ever heard of that.

But I fail to see how he could empower them. The employers as you put it, the corporations, wall street, lobbyist were busy giving their money to the Republicans and Democrats. Apparently those employers had more faith in those parties than Ross's.
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Greetings, Pero. :2wave:

My son-in-law from Texas was at my house all last week, and we talked a lot about politics! He was so disappointed [and still miffed] at Perot for dropping out when he did because although he is a staunch Republican, he had voted for Perot! He felt that although Perot had apparently received death threats to both he and his family - which is very possible - that running for President he should have expected that, and he felt that his vote was made for nothing. I told him that it showed to me that Perot proved to the other parties that an "outsider" could compete and maybe win if the message resonates with the public. BTW, the US debt in 1992 when he ran was $4 trillion dollars - 22 years later, it's $18 trillion dollars - almost four times greater! WOW! :thumbdown:
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Pero. :2wave:

My son-in-law from Texas was at my house all last week, and we talked a lot about politics! He was so disappointed [and still miffed] at Perot for dropping out when he did because although he is a staunch Republican, he had voted for Perot! He felt that although Perot had apparently received death threats to both he and his family - which is very possible - that running for President he should have expected that, and he felt that his vote was made for nothing. I told him that it showed to me that Perot proved to the other parties that an "outsider" could compete and maybe win if the message resonates with the public. BTW, the US debt in 1992 when he ran was $4 trillion dollars - 22 years later, it's $18 trillion dollars - almost four times greater! WOW! :thumbdown:
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Make that more than four times greater!
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Pero. :2wave:

My son-in-law from Texas was at my house all last week, and we talked a lot about politics! He was so disappointed [and still miffed] at Perot for dropping out when he did because although he is a staunch Republican, he had voted for Perot! He felt that although Perot had apparently received death threats to both he and his family - which is very possible - that running for President he should have expected that, and he felt that his vote was made for nothing. I told him that it showed to me that Perot proved to the other parties that an "outsider" could compete and maybe win if the message resonates with the public. BTW, the US debt in 1992 when he ran was $4 trillion dollars - 22 years later, it's $18 trillion dollars - almost four times greater! WOW! :thumbdown:
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Evening Pol, in losing Perot accomplished what he set out to do. Bring the debt to the peoples attention and it has remained in their eye ever since. Also both parties adopted his ideas and worked to at least balance the budget. In Clinton's last year as president, the debt rose only 17 billion dollars. Without checking, I would say that is the closest thing to a surplus since Eisenhower had surpluses in 2 of his 8 years where the debt actually went down.
 
KevinKohler said:
He said CONSERVATIVE, not REPUBLICRAT.



You might want to review the differences. Cephus is hands down a conservative.
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Yeah. Still waiting to hear those "conservative" positions.
 
countryboy said:
Then why does he constantly defend liberal positions?
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Depends on what you are referring to. The only ones that I have seen thus far that sound like a lot of liberals today is in regard to religious matters. With Cephus, he's very......(so I don't get snagged here) particular about his preferences for religion being anywhere near him.
 
I have always pretty much been a libertarian

I became more anti death penalty after started working in the Justice Department and less completely in favor of all sorts of abortion (I oppose partial birth abortion except in rare situations) after becoming a parent. I have always been against the war on drugs, the draft, gun control, progressive taxes, and I have always supported gay rights, and most abortion

the only area where I go back and forth is on US intervention overseas
 
I'm fairly sure I've become more liberal as I got older.

Part of that is realizing certain positions were based on bull****.
 
Voted "other" as the poll is very flawed. Social conservatism has little to nothing to do with fiscal (or small government) conservatism. So when those answering a lean to conservatism, a qualifier would be nice.

As I have become older, I have become more Libertarian. Mostly resolved to the notion that I have no business telling others how to live their lives in a manner that today's social conservatism and today's liberalism thinks they should.
 
Goshin said:
Not really no. I was far more conservative two decades ago than I am now, politically at least.


With age I'd say I've become less inclined to stick my nose into other's business, and less inclined to support extremism of any stripe direction color or shape.
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Yep. And there is surprising peace and joy in that that I had not expected. I wish I had discovered it sooner. It makes life a little sweeter, I think.
 
countryboy said:
Yeah. Still waiting to hear those "conservative" positions.
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Guy who has been here for .... 3 months... trying to question the stances a member who has been here for 7 years and is well known to the majority of veteran posters. Flamewarriors is pretty spot on when it comes to guys like you. How about.... you look up Cephus' posting history and quit trying to put him on the spot like he actually owes you an explanation?
 
I've gone from liberal to conservative, but not because my politics have changed; it's because the meanings of those two words have changed.
 
Still a democracy loving socialist. So no.
 
Hatuey said:
Guy who has been here for .... 3 months... trying to question the stances a member who has been here for 7 years and is well known to the majority of veteran posters. Flamewarriors is pretty spot on when it comes to guys like you. How about.... you look up Cephus' posting history and quit trying to put him on the spot like he actually owes you an explanation?
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You make a valid point. Sometimes I get my hackles up. I did do a little browsing, and I seem to have been a bit hasty in my assumptions, we're not nearly as much at odds as I originally thought.

My apologies @Cephus.
 
countryboy said:
You make a valid point. Sometimes I get my hackles up. I did do a little browsing, and I seem to have been a bit hasty in my assumptions, we're not nearly as much at odds as I originally thought.

My apologies @Cephus.
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You're a good guy countryboy, don't let a few disagreements make you into a partisan hack. I'm not saying you are. I've seen it happen to a lot of people, and it's always a terrible thing when new posters get swallowed up by it.
 
My social views have moved to the left. I'm truly living in the "I don't give a **** what consenting adults do as long as nobody gets hurt" world. My fiscal views have become more conservative as I get older (and especially as I make more money).
 
mpg said:
I've gone from liberal to conservative, but not because my politics have changed; it's because the meanings of those two words have changed.
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and the meanings of those terms are still in flux.
 
well it depends on time frame, HS and younger (like i even knew what was really going on) Id say i was more of a lefty but 19-24 I probably started to swing the other way becoming more righty but then i settled in the middle.

at 18 i registered a democrat and MEANT it lol
then at 21 I changed it to republican
at 24 i switch back and forth so i can vote in different things but im an independent and will be forever.
 
The older I get the more informed leftist I become it seems. A lot of the peer pressure about age and harrassment from conservatives that makes young people ignore politics seems to go away, so that I more and more follow an anti-American viewpoint, that we are corrupt and our free-trade ideals are backed by homicidal tendencies more extreme than any enemy we imagine.
 
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