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Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

Bill Cosby


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I think that leads to the question of if it stops being rape if you keep knowingly coming back for more.

Even if a woman hasn't vocalized consent, doesn't this action kind of imply it?

Yes. Plus admitting that she thought it was part of the deal.
 
Yes. Plus admitting that she thought it was part of the deal.

Yeah, if you're kind of showing up to have sex with a guy because you think it will help with your career then I don't know how you can really claim to be raped.
 
Didn't seem to bother Slick Willy.

Well if the same people were accusing Bill Cosby of being a serial murderer, coke dealer, and of selling plots at the national cemetery on top of being a rapist, then their accusations would hold a lot less water...
 
No but I suspect wealthy, celebrity men are probably accused of rape far more often then any other demographic.

I don't know that either of these things are true for sure but I imagine they are.

It just seems to me that whenever multiple women suddenly start accusing a man of raping them decades before, it's almost always an extremely wealthy celebrity.

Again, I'm not saying that he didn't rape these women but I'm always skeptical when it involves such wealth, high profile people.


I get what you are saying, and I am sympathetic to your argument. However, you wouldn't necessarily hear about such accusations against some average joe because they are not a celebrity, so it goes both ways on that one.
 
Rape allegations won't go away for Bill Cosby - CNN.com

What are your thoughts on Cosby?

Do you think it's possible that he's guilty of raping women?

Or is he a victim of false allegations?

Now I know there's the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing - but I'm asking what your gut feel is regarding this stuff.

Anything is possible.He could be a rapist or he could be a victim of false allegations.Just because a group of people claim something doesn't make it true. As famous as Bill Cosby is I seriously doubt he would have a problem getting women, but then again a famous boxer went to prison for rape(but many people have doubts over whether or not is was rape or consensual sex). If these women are lying hopefully they are exposed for being liars and pay severely. If Cosby is guilty hopefully he gets the book thrown at him.
 
Most of the rich and famous never get accused of rape though..

You're right. But you have to remember, it makes future accusers who may be lying say "Look! A pattern!", adding theoretical credibility to their (false) claims.

I'm not saying he did or didn't rape these women but I'm also cautious about ruining a man's life based on no evidence, just because a handful of women claim it's so. Remember, this is the same country that made the Kardashians celebrities and where women write love letters to the Night Stalker in prison, and go for conjugal visits. There are a lot of crazies out there.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but he had an affair and had a child from that affair, and has said some pretty strange things in the past several yrs. I don't "want" to believe it but my gut screams he's guilty of more than flirtation.
 
This thread reminds me of the old National Enquirer and Star message boards.
 
Rape allegations won't go away for Bill Cosby - CNN.com

What are your thoughts on Cosby?

Do you think it's possible that he's guilty of raping women?

Or is he a victim of false allegations?

Now I know there's the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing - but I'm asking what your gut feel is regarding this stuff.
I think he's probably a rapist. His accusers have given me no reason to doubt them and it seems like a somewhat well-known thing among some comics.
 
As famous as Bill Cosby is I seriously doubt he would have a problem getting women,
People do not rape others because they have a hard time getting women. They rape because they desire something other than consensual sex.
 
Rape allegations won't go away for Bill Cosby - CNN.com

What are your thoughts on Cosby?

Do you think it's possible that he's guilty of raping women?

Or is he a victim of false allegations?

Now I know there's the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing - but I'm asking what your gut feel is regarding this stuff.

Bill Cosby? Bill Cosby? If this is true, then the only way you could top this is if you told me Mr. Rogers was the Zodiac Killer.
 
I have to admit the accusers sound very credible.

A piece of my inner child has died.
 
Wow- this is the first I've heard of, or read about it, at all. I never knew about any earlier allegations. It comes as a huge surprise to me, and right now, I don't have a gut feeling about it either way. I'm still too surprised for it to have rolled around in my mind, or for any oddities to have occurred to me in my memory banks. I truly hope there is nothing to it, but crazier things have happened.
 
Rape allegations won't go away for Bill Cosby - CNN.com

What are your thoughts on Cosby?

Do you think it's possible that he's guilty of raping women?

Or is he a victim of false allegations?

Now I know there's the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing - but I'm asking what your gut feel is regarding this stuff.

They may or may not be true.

There is not enough evidence either way.

Another reason why fornication should be illegal.
 
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But there's been multiple claims made over many years.

These women don't have much to gain anymore over making the claims. They obviously don't have any proof.

Sometimes when the boy cries wolf, there's actually a wolf.

Or when multiple girls or boys allege the same wolf.
 
I think it's extremely possible. I read somewhere that there were 14 different accusations of rape.
 
If it's true, some Republicans are going to have to find a new old black man to use when making generalized statements about young black people. If Morgan Freeman is too expensive, I hear Billy Dee Williams is out of work these days. Oh look... some are already defending him:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/...allegations-its-not-like-he-did-it-yesterday/

“And I asked myself, what did Bill Cosby ever do to tick off some producer at CNN? Or some reporter? Or some assignment? What happened here?”

It's the media, people. The media is at fault here and time is not important when it comes to being a rapist. Brought to you by the guy who did enough painkillers to give Charlie Sheen a dizzy spell.
 
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This is news for me.

She does not claims intercourse though, does she?
 
Rape allegations won't go away for Bill Cosby - CNN.com

What are your thoughts on Cosby?


Do you think it's possible that he's guilty of raping women?

Or is he a victim of false allegations?

Now I know there's the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing - but I'm asking what your gut feel is regarding this stuff.

Cosby isn't one of my favorite people.

But, OTOH: anyone who has a lot of cash is likely to be the target of accusations like this sooner or later.

Like anyone, the man is innocent until proven guilty.
 
People do not rape others because they have a hard time getting women. They rape because they desire something other than consensual sex.

Or because they won't take no for an answer. This is why ppl are so shocked bc he doesn't come off that way. He's always had that gentle grandpa essence about him.
 
Innocent until proven otherwise, that is my position. And as this case has not been tried in court he is for me innocent of the crime. If at a court case irrefutable evidence is presented that proves he is not innocent then he is guilty and has to suffer the consequence (that means a good stretch of time behind bars).
 
Innocent until proven otherwise, that is my position. And as this case has not been tried in court he is for me innocent of the crime. If at a court case irrefutable evidence is presented that proves he is not innocent then he is guilty and has to suffer the consequence (that means a good stretch of time behind bars).


Re; your quote in parenthesis. He's mid 70's so it wouldn't even be a stretch of time.
 
Re; your quote in parenthesis. He's mid 70's so it wouldn't even be a stretch of time.

He could be alive for another 10 or 15 years. And even if he were to die after 5 years of jail, for the amount of time he had left on this earth, that is a stretch of time.
 
Those who doubt the accusers' claims, have you listened to them?
 
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