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Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

Was liberalism rejected in the mid term elections?

  • Im a right leaning American, yes.

    Votes: 14 21.5%

  • Im a right leaning American, no.

    Votes: 12 18.5%

  • Im a left leaning American, yes.

    Votes: 3 4.6%

  • Im a left leaning American, no.

    Votes: 32 49.2%

  • Im a not American, yes.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Im a not American, no.

    Votes: 4 6.2%
  • Total voters
    65
US Conservative said:
I dont get it either, he's got no cohesive theme to his policies (except distortions/spin) he STILL fails at what he decides to pursue, and yes-Americans still "like" the guy (or so we hear). THAT is a very dangerous precedence because so many horrible things have been allowed because of a slick personality. I dont know about all Canadians, but you are a different species of liberal from this guy.

And this song is absolutely appropriate.
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Oh dear, the subject of precedent kind of triggers severe anxieties, and should with any American. Let's start with the IRS scandal, how will the Dems react when a Republican president takes it a step further and wipes out a few progressive PACS through the IRS and in the same way transferring blame, the blamed resign and hide behind the fifth with a co-conspirator in the AG's office.

The list goes on and on, and grows more horrifying the more one looks.

Just as Living Colour [note the Canadian spelling] is as apt today, the Buffalo Springfield is even more so, "there's a man with a gun over there, tellin' me I got to beware.....Paranoia strikes deep.



When you read Machiavelli, these words become very frightening.

And no, I am nothing like any self identified American Liberal I have ever met. But I am in the majority here in terms of over all approach, although I differ slightly in that I am a fiscal conservative. I support strong but fair taxes but demand those funds be spent efficiently and fairly. Like most Canadians like like lots of laws so we know where we stand, but do not want so much enforcement.
 
Perotista said:
I think the biggest stat from exist polls was 78% of voters are worried about the economy in the years ahead. The parties can put all the spin on the election they want, but what happened boiled down to "It's the economy Stupid,"

Mandates, I do not think so unless the mandate is get this country moving again, i.e. the economy. Relieve worries about the future. But the question to Republicans is did they also get this message? Or do they think they have a mandate for their political agenda? In reality the Repubicans really didn't run on anything like the Contract with America back in 1994. they won because Obama fatigue as I put has set in. If the GOP congress concentrates on the economy a bright future is ahead, if not look for another 2006 and 2008 in 2016. Just keep in mind neither party is well liked:

44% of voters view the Democratic Party favorably, 53% unfavorably
40% of voters view the Republican Party favorably, 55% unfavorably

I have said all along that 2014 was a unique election, it was. The party with the lowest favorable rating and the highest unfavorable rating won. That hardly ever happens if it has happened.
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The way I see it the republicans have seen it, but Dingy Harry would never let anything the Pubs wanted a vote on come to the floor. That is a fact. Republicans has always been for a growing economy, whereas the Dems are all about entitlements and free stuff, they have never been about jobs. Dems are hell bent on regulation and the killing of jobs EPA, like killing all the coal jobs and not drilling on government lands and job killing Obamacare, the list goes on and on.

I suggest the first bill that hits Obama's desk is Keystone, of which the liberals hate so much no matter how many jobs are lost. See my point.

You quote the parties approval and unfavorably ratings and I don't question the numbers. However what was up for election was Obama's policies that were supported by the democrats that voted for his policies in the 95+ % range. That is overwhelming support for Obama's policies that were clearly rejected by the American people. Yes neither party is well liked but they really hate Obama's policies and thus republicans were voted in to stop him and his party of failure.

We now have to wait and see what the Pubs pass in legislation that hits Obama deck, I would bet it will be legislation to grow the economy, by keystone, fixing the job killing parts of Obamacare, pulling back the EPA and regulations, etc. If they do a good job they will have the advantage in 2016. People want good legislation and jobs, but for the past 6 years Obama and clan have been a complete failure. Plus they helped the rich get richer while the middle class are making less, they made the financial inequality worse. Obama and clan shoved failure in every category and scandals in the peoples face. The people have had enough.

Now will the GOP turn things around by putting legislation the people want and put Obama on the hot seat to sign or veto. The GOP now has the wind at their back, if they **** it up they have no one to blame.
 
Ockham said:
Liberalism rejected? No ... liberalism in the classic sense is nearly (or perhaps fully now?) extinct. Progressive policies were rejected in this mid-term as the road those policies lead the American people are not satisfactory.
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I'm extinct?

****, when all this time I found being a classic Liberal was a license to get laid.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Oh dear, the subject of precedent kind of triggers severe anxieties, and should with any American. Let's start with the IRS scandal, how will the Dems react when a Republican president takes it a step further and wipes out a few progressive PACS through the IRS and in the same way transferring blame, the blamed resign and hide behind the fifth with a co-conspirator in the AG's office.

The list goes on and on, and grows more horrifying the more one looks.

Just as Living Colour [note the Canadian spelling] is as apt today, the Buffalo Springfield is even more so, "there's a man with a gun over there, tellin' me I got to beware.....Paranoia strikes deep.



When you read Machiavelli, these words become very frightening.

And no, I am nothing like any self identified American Liberal I have ever met. But I am in the majority here in terms of over all approach, although I differ slightly in that I am a fiscal conservative. I support strong but fair taxes but demand those funds be spent efficiently and fairly. Like most Canadians like like lots of laws so we know where we stand, but do not want so much enforcement.
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Theres a part of me that would love to see the dems get what they gave, but most conservatives/republicans believe in playing by the rules (and that competition is a good thing). Contrast this with the lies and distortions of the left-anything to win, anytime. I wont forget the tactics employed by the left this election when they were cornered. I wont forget the lies of POTUS and the writer of the ACA. The truth isn't necessary. The ends justify the means.

So what I expect is the republicans continuing to play by the rules while the left continues the tactics its been using for years.
 
Interesting results from gallup, regarding the rejection of the democrat party...
Democratic Party Favorable Rating Falls to Record Low

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Democrats' favorable rating at a record-low 36%
Democratic Party lost support among Democrats, independents
Republican Party's favorable rating remains steady at 42%
 
Born Free said:
The way I see it the republicans have seen it, but Dingy Harry would never let anything the Pubs wanted a vote on come to the floor. That is a fact. Republicans has always been for a growing economy, whereas the Dems are all about entitlements and free stuff, they have never been about jobs. Dems are hell bent on regulation and the killing of jobs EPA, like killing all the coal jobs and not drilling on government lands and job killing Obamacare, the list goes on and on.

I suggest the first bill that hits Obama's desk is Keystone, of which the liberals hate so much no matter how many jobs are lost. See my point.

You quote the parties approval and unfavorably ratings and I don't question the numbers. However what was up for election was Obama's policies that were supported by the democrats that voted for his policies in the 95+ % range. That is overwhelming support for Obama's policies that were clearly rejected by the American people. Yes neither party is well liked but they really hate Obama's policies and thus republicans were voted in to stop him and his party of failure.

We now have to wait and see what the Pubs pass in legislation that hits Obama deck, I would bet it will be legislation to grow the economy, by keystone, fixing the job killing parts of Obamacare, pulling back the EPA and regulations, etc. If they do a good job they will have the advantage in 2016. People want good legislation and jobs, but for the past 6 years Obama and clan have been a complete failure. Plus they helped the rich get richer while the middle class are making less, they made the financial inequality worse. Obama and clan shoved failure in every category and scandals in the peoples face. The people have had enough.

Now will the GOP turn things around by putting legislation the people want and put Obama on the hot seat to sign or veto. The GOP now has the wind at their back, if they **** it up they have no one to blame.
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Ah, there need be no bill for the Keystone XL pipeline. It has been green lighted by the International Joint US-Canada Committee on Water rights, the Departments of Interior, Commerce, State and had twice been reviewed and approved by the EPA. \

Obama has simply refused to let the deal go.

I doubt it will EVER happen now. TransCanada Pipeline is a consortium of many companies including SMC Lavalin who have since turned their attention to a much more profitable plan "B", a pipeline through the Rockies to Prince Rupert and the Pacific, eliminating the need for Keystone for 20 to 50 years. It is shorter and can be built in one third the time.

That's what happens when you say "no".

It will mean 10,000 jobs to engineer the project, and 30,000 more to build it, all in Canada.
 
US Conservative said:
Theres a part of me that would love to see the dems get what they gave, but most conservatives/republicans believe in playing by the rules (and that competition is a good thing). Contrast this with the lies and distortions of the left-anything to win, anytime. I wont forget the tactics employed by the left this election when they were cornered. I wont forget the lies of POTUS and the writer of the ACA. The truth isn't necessary. The ends justify the means.

So what I expect is the republicans continuing to play by the rules while the left continues the tactics its been using for years.
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LOL, and it's always the Dems yelling "cheaters".

As a strategist, I would recommend they double down on strictly adhering to the rules, and even get more clean where there are grey areas. My read is that this vote was about that exact topic, the people are tired of being manipulated. When the architect of the ACA admits they deliberately deceived with “This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Okay, so it’s written to do that." it's bordering on the grotesque.
If I am wrong and the replies of the Obama trolls in here is representative of the over all attitude of the US, then you are doomed as the minimum morality is corrupt to the core.

I do not believe it is and that sooner or later the nation will find the God-given righteous indignation as is our right and kick some ass. I hope the results of this election are just the beginning and repeat the caveat that Republicans lie to themselves if they see it as a clear victory for them.
 
Fearandloathing said:
LOL, and it's always the Dems yelling "cheaters".

As a strategist, I would recommend they double down on strictly adhering to the rules, and even get more clean where there are grey areas. My read is that this vote was about that exact topic, the people are tired of being manipulated. When the architect of the ACA admits they deliberately deceived with “This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Okay, so it’s written to do that." it's bordering on the grotesque.
If I am wrong and the replies of the Obama trolls in here is representative of the over all attitude of the US, then you are doomed as the minimum morality is corrupt to the core.

I do not believe it is and that sooner or later the nation will find the God-given righteous indignation as is our right and kick some ass. I hope the results of this election are just the beginning and repeat the caveat that Republicans lie to themselves if they see it as a clear victory for them.
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Our left does not value truth and accountability-even in its own politicians. This is part of the destructive nature of liberalism-decry virtue, defend those with no moral restraint. Why? Because it leads to a complacent mass who allows its leaders to do what they like.

In another thread here today an ACA supporter (lefty) was lamenting her rates going up, and when I asked if she felt any remorse or anything else about the millions of people (who didn't support the aca) going through this mess right now-and she replied she didn't see how it mattered how she felt. :confused:
 
Fearandloathing said:
Ah, there need be no bill for the Keystone XL pipeline. It has been green lighted by the International Joint US-Canada Committee on Water rights, the Departments of Interior, Commerce, State and had twice been reviewed and approved by the EPA. \

Obama has simply refused to let the deal go.

I doubt it will EVER happen now. TransCanada Pipeline is a consortium of many companies including SMC Lavalin who have since turned their attention to a much more profitable plan "B", a pipeline through the Rockies to Prince Rupert and the Pacific, eliminating the need for Keystone for 20 to 50 years. It is shorter and can be built in one third the time.

That's what happens when you say "no".

It will mean 10,000 jobs to engineer the project, and 30,000 more to build it, all in Canada.
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Do you think keystone would be off the table in 2 years?

Im reminded of this...
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US Conservative said:
Our left does not value truth and accountability-even in its own politicians. This is part of the destructive nature of liberalism-decry virtue, defend those with no moral restraint. Why? Because it leads to a complacent mass who allows its leaders to do what they like.

In another thread here today an ACA supporter (lefty) was lamenting her rates going up, and when I asked if she felt any remorse or anything else about the millions of people (who didn't support the aca) going through this mess right now-and she replied she didn't see how it mattered how she felt. :confused:
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Now that is funny coming form the party of Nixon. Then there is Senator wide stance and Mark Sanford who hiked the Appalachian Trail, also known as spending time with your mistress, and he got re-elected. Truth and accountability in action. If you look at the last few presidencies and the congressmen who have been arrested and convicted of a crime its pretty even. Its quite hypocritical for conservatives to claim moral superiority. I'm sure it won't stop you from continuing but I will try and point out the BS when I see it.
 
US Conservative said:
Our left does not value truth and accountability-even in its own politicians. This is part of the destructive nature of liberalism-decry virtue, defend those with no moral restraint. Why? Because it leads to a complacent mass who allows its leaders to do what they like.

In another thread here today an ACA supporter (lefty) was lamenting her rates going up, and when I asked if she felt any remorse or anything else about the millions of people (who didn't support the aca) going through this mess right now-and she replied she didn't see how it mattered how she felt. :confused:
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Are you serious!

I have worked with practicing addicts with less self denial than that.
 
US Conservative said:
Do you think keystone would be off the table in 2 years?

Im reminded of this...
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I would guess that at least the a Republican president would have to make a case FOR it now. A lot of money has been burned on the principle engineering and the principles have a better offer on the table. There is a huge, media-fed opposition, but it is the usual eco-rent-a-crowd we destroyed in the last provincial vote and natives, who come around when the money arives...same case there with hold outs.

So, my guess would be no unless a new Canadian government says no. As that is more than likely to be the Liberal Party of Canada, they will, as usual, be opposed and then find a "safe" way to do it.
 
Born Free said:
The way I see it the republicans have seen it, but Dingy Harry would never let anything the Pubs wanted a vote on come to the floor. That is a fact. Republicans has always been for a growing economy, whereas the Dems are all about entitlements and free stuff, they have never been about jobs. Dems are hell bent on regulation and the killing of jobs EPA, like killing all the coal jobs and not drilling on government lands and job killing Obamacare, the list goes on and on.

I suggest the first bill that hits Obama's desk is Keystone, of which the liberals hate so much no matter how many jobs are lost. See my point.

You quote the parties approval and unfavorably ratings and I don't question the numbers. However what was up for election was Obama's policies that were supported by the democrats that voted for his policies in the 95+ % range. That is overwhelming support for Obama's policies that were clearly rejected by the American people. Yes neither party is well liked but they really hate Obama's policies and thus republicans were voted in to stop him and his party of failure.

We now have to wait and see what the Pubs pass in legislation that hits Obama deck, I would bet it will be legislation to grow the economy, by keystone, fixing the job killing parts of Obamacare, pulling back the EPA and regulations, etc. If they do a good job they will have the advantage in 2016. People want good legislation and jobs, but for the past 6 years Obama and clan have been a complete failure. Plus they helped the rich get richer while the middle class are making less, they made the financial inequality worse. Obama and clan shoved failure in every category and scandals in the peoples face. The people have had enough.

Now will the GOP turn things around by putting legislation the people want and put Obama on the hot seat to sign or veto. The GOP now has the wind at their back, if they **** it up they have no one to blame.
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All true to a certain extent. The same ABC exits polls showed 59% of the voters were dissatisfied with President Obama and his policies which included 23% that were plain angry in that group. Only 37% said they were satisfied with the president. Also 32% said their voted was cast against Obama while only 20% said they vote was in support of Obama.

From what I hear Dirty Harry now plans to bring up the Keystone Pipeline for a vote in the lame duck session. He is only doing that to help Landrieu in her runoff election in December.

But before the Republicans jump up and down with glee and start proclaiming a mandate, they should look at this:

Half of U.S. voters say the Republican takeover of Congress was a repudiation of President Obama’s party rather than an endorsement of the GOP. Democrats don’t disagree.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 30% of Likely U.S. Voters believe last week’s election results were more a vote for the Republicans than a vote against the Democrats. Forty-nine percent (49%) disagree and say the election results were a vote against the Democrats instead. But one-in-five (21%) aren’t sure.

Voters See Election As Rejection of Democrats - Rasmussen Reports™

I think what the voters want is for someone in Washington to do something about the economy and jobs. Forget healthcare, immigration, all these political party agendas and concentrate on the voters wishes and wants. If the Republicans do this, they will do good in 2016. If the Republicans also ignore the people they will surely lose in 2016 as the people will give the other party a chance to get it right and so it goes.
 
US Conservative said:
Do you think keystone would be off the table in 2 years?

Im reminded of this...
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Actually I have to amend my earlier comment, there is a scenario where the Keystone XL will get a green light. As you may be aware Stephen Harper has joined the fray in Iraq, we have training troops on the ground, which is a political liability for the Conservatives, Canadians tend to fire politicians who go to war, Jean Chretien got re-elected because he told Bush to **** off on Iraq.

Harper and Obama do not like each other, Harper is a deep thinker, a practical ideologue and a policy wonk where Obama is all show and no go. So, we as we speculate why Harper payed puppet, there has to be a reason from which he or Canada or both get something in return, no business is done internationally without some hog trading. The typical return is that the White House gives us a lot of defense work [we hate war but have no problem making money off it], but there is speculation this favor is much, much pricier...that an OK of the XL is part of the package.

Naturally dubious about such things, I have to ask whether Obama can engage in the kind of moral gymnastics and reverse himself on something he has made a trump card for six years. I don't see it happening, but I nor would I be surprised. My best bet is he made the deal, but will renege on it
 
Fearandloathing said:
Actually I have to amend my earlier comment, there is a scenario where the Keystone XL will get a green light. As you may be aware Stephen Harper has joined the fray in Iraq, we have training troops on the ground, which is a political liability for the Conservatives, Canadians tend to fire politicians who go to war, Jean Chretien got re-elected because he told Bush to **** off on Iraq.

Harper and Obama do not like each other, Harper is a deep thinker, a practical ideologue and a policy wonk where Obama is all show and no go. So, we as we speculate why Harper payed puppet, there has to be a reason from which he or Canada or both get something in return, no business is done internationally without some hog trading. The typical return is that the White House gives us a lot of defense work [we hate war but have no problem making money off it], but there is speculation this favor is much, much pricier...that an OK of the XL is part of the package.

Naturally dubious about such things, I have to ask whether Obama can engage in the kind of moral gymnastics and reverse himself on something he has made a trump card for six years. I don't see it happening, but I nor would I be surprised. My best bet is he made the deal, but will renege on it
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Interesting. Historically Obama has proven he wont change course.

I meant to ask, whats the mood in Canada after that attack a few weeks back? Is it business as usual?
 
Perotista said:
All true to a certain extent. The same ABC exits polls showed 59% of the voters were dissatisfied with President Obama and his policies which included 23% that were plain angry in that group. Only 37% said they were satisfied with the president. Also 32% said their voted was cast against Obama while only 20% said they vote was in support of Obama.

From what I hear Dirty Harry now plans to bring up the Keystone Pipeline for a vote in the lame duck session. He is only doing that to help Landrieu in her runoff election in December.

But before the Republicans jump up and down with glee and start proclaiming a mandate, they should look at this:

Half of U.S. voters say the Republican takeover of Congress was a repudiation of President Obama’s party rather than an endorsement of the GOP. Democrats don’t disagree.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 30% of Likely U.S. Voters believe last week’s election results were more a vote for the Republicans than a vote against the Democrats. Forty-nine percent (49%) disagree and say the election results were a vote against the Democrats instead. But one-in-five (21%) aren’t sure.

Voters See Election As Rejection of Democrats - Rasmussen Reports™

I think what the voters want is for someone in Washington to do something about the economy and jobs. Forget healthcare, immigration, all these political party agendas and concentrate on the voters wishes and wants. If the Republicans do this, they will do good in 2016. If the Republicans also ignore the people they will surely lose in 2016 as the people will give the other party a chance to get it right and so it goes.
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I agree with everything said, in bold is exactly how I saw it, as the public is fed up with Obama's policies. I have not heard that Dingy Harry is going to bring up Keystone, that just shows how much the voters repudiated their polices. Now after losing Dingy is going to bring it for a vote, what a hypocrite. He's on the losing end, thus he's trying to make amends. What a jerk. Take away some of the Pubs thunder.
 
US Conservative said:
Interesting. Historically Obama has proven he wont change course.

I meant to ask, whats the mood in Canada after that attack a few weeks back? Is it business as usual?
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The one on Parliament Hill? Sort of business as usual, but with a major exception .....for us.

We don't panic easily in fact we kind of see you guys as overly reactive, thus my coining of the term "Excited States of America" The conservative government tried to pull a David Cameron and capitalize on it's 'tough on crime" agenda, but we collectively yawned and wondered if a Canadian team can even make it to our birthright Stanley Cup play offs....hockey is the only really important issue here...that and beer prices.

But the major, revolutionary change is that our Parliamentary Security Force will henceforth be armed and have body armor. That's kind of radical since we're still adjusting to the idea of customs agents with guns...and even the RCMP have to have them covered with a safety flap...and it is illegal for Canadian Forces members from appearing in public in battle gear without an executive warrant.

But, Harper did return from China to attend our Memorial services, but we take them much more seriously here, wearing poppies etc., and he did mention the soldiers who died in that. As a story though it has dropped off the headlines.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Ah, there need be no bill for the Keystone XL pipeline. It has been green lighted by the International Joint US-Canada Committee on Water rights, the Departments of Interior, Commerce, State and had twice been reviewed and approved by the EPA. \

Obama has simply refused to let the deal go.

I doubt it will EVER happen now. TransCanada Pipeline is a consortium of many companies including SMC Lavalin who have since turned their attention to a much more profitable plan "B", a pipeline through the Rockies to Prince Rupert and the Pacific, eliminating the need for Keystone for 20 to 50 years. It is shorter and can be built in one third the time.

That's what happens when you say "no".

It will mean 10,000 jobs to engineer the project, and 30,000 more to build it, all in Canada.
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http://keystone-xl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Senate-Democrats-letter-to-President-Obama.pdf
 
Fearandloathing said:
Ah, there need be no bill for the Keystone XL pipeline. It has been green lighted by the International Joint US-Canada Committee on Water rights, the Departments of Interior, Commerce, State and had twice been reviewed and approved by the EPA. \

Obama has simply refused to let the deal go.

I doubt it will EVER happen now. TransCanada Pipeline is a consortium of many companies including SMC Lavalin who have since turned their attention to a much more profitable plan "B", a pipeline through the Rockies to Prince Rupert and the Pacific, eliminating the need for Keystone for 20 to 50 years. It is shorter and can be built in one third the time.

That's what happens when you say "no".

It will mean 10,000 jobs to engineer the project, and 30,000 more to build it, all in Canada.
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We are too good of friends for us not to give the green light to keystone, this is all Obama's doing stopping the line and we all know that. And Canada are too good of friends to not build it. There is no good to come by us not giving the green light and Canada not building it. It will happen for political reasons if not financial.
 
Born Free said:
I agree with everything said, in bold is exactly how I saw it, as the public is fed up with Obama's policies. I have not heard that Dingy Harry is going to bring up Keystone, that just shows how much the voters repudiated their polices. Now after losing Dingy is going to bring it for a vote, what a hypocrite. He's on the losing end, thus he's trying to make amends. What a jerk. Take away some of the Pubs thunder.
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Dirty Harry is trying to help Landrieu in her runoff next month in Louisiana by bringing up the Keystone. All along Dirty Harry's agenda was to protect his leadership position by ensuring no tough votes would be brought up to force red state democratic senator hands. Thus his close to 300 passed house bills tabled.
 
Born Free said:
I agree with everything said, in bold is exactly how I saw it, as the public is fed up with Obama's policies. I have not heard that Dingy Harry is going to bring up Keystone, that just shows how much the voters repudiated their polices. Now after losing Dingy is going to bring it for a vote, what a hypocrite. He's on the losing end, thus he's trying to make amends. What a jerk. Take away some of the Pubs thunder.
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Transparent politics-straight from Reid.
 
eohrnberger said:
State and the Stateswoman | Foreign Affairs

Didn't fail as SOS. Mmmm. OK. If you say so.

Doesn't look that way to me.
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Your source is membership only, so I couldn't read the article. Having said that; there is nothing in your points that suggest a failure, moreover, it's not like we've had nothing to do while she was SOS. So you assertion is kind of lost on me.
 
jet57 said:
Your source is membership only, so I couldn't read the article. Having said that; there is nothing in your points that suggest a failure, moreover, it's not like we've had nothing to do while she was SOS. So you assertion is kind of lost on me.
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Odd. I click the link and it takes to the complete article, no login, nothing, never logged in, never registered. However, I hesitate to post the entire article here not wanting to run afoul of the rules or copyright. However, the most poignant and short excerpt may suffice.

even an admirer must acknowledge that few big problems were solved on her watch. There was no equivalent of Ambassador George F. Kennan's development of the containment doctrine and associated initiatives, such as the creation of NATO during the Cold War; Secretary of State Henry Kissinger's paving the way for the United States' opening to China; or Secretary of State James Baker's push for German reunification after the fall of the Berlin Wall. In part, this is because there is no single overriding threat or issue today. Further, the problems that do exist might just not be ripe for major initiatives. But the fact remains that there was no big historic breakthrough. And Clinton gained little ground in the battles nearest to her heart -- ending global poverty, tamping down civil conflict in Africa, improving the status of women around the world -- perhaps because they require patient diligence more than big speeches or doctrines. But still, Clinton cannot claim a signature accomplishment just yet.
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Bottom line, she didn't solve any of the existing problems, didn't accomplish much of anything except log quite a number of air miles (Rice traversed a total of 1,006,846 miles, Clinton a mere 956,733), but then, she didn't embarrass herself either, well with the exception of reducing the security levels for the mission in Benghazi.

I think you'd agree that this would be an characterized as unremarkable.
 
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