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Are You Registered With, Or Otherwise A Part Of, A Third Party?

Are You Registered With, Or Otherwise A Part Of, A Third Party?

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Not registered as anything.
 
Graffias said:
I used to be a member of the National Socialist Libertarian Green party, but I am not affiliated with any party now.
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Is that even still a party? I remember seeing a website about it somewhere.
 
countryboy said:
The Green Party platform is nothing short of authoritarian. It simply doesn't comport in any way, shape, or form with liberty. Isn't "liberty" the root word of "Libertarian"? Sorry, one cannot be both Libertarian and Green Party at the same time. Which one are you really?

Green Party - Our Platform
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E. Domestic Security

Greens want to stop the assault on our civil liberties that intensified after the attacks of September 11, 2001, and restore these and other freedoms to all people.

During the last several decades, there has been an erosion of freedom in the United States. This has come from many sources and takes many forms, including the war on drugs and widespread imprisonment of nonviolent drug offenders; the increased use of personal identification, surveillance of employees at work, and the growing use of private security forces by corporations; restrictions on the speech of protesters and students; and random traffic stops of persons of color and the commonplace use of roadblocks.

Since 9/11, this erosion has turned into a collapse of our freedoms, as then President Bush authorized torture, illegal wiretapping, indefinite detention without trial, and widespread government surveillance.

Greens believe that all such systematic degradation or elimination of our constitutional protections must stop, and that corrective measures need to be taken in a timely manner by Congress to fully reinstate all such losses of guaranteed citizen protections.

1. The Green Party calls for a complete, thorough, impartial, and independent investigation of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, including the role of the administration of George W, Bush, various U.S. based corporations and interests, and other nations and third parties.

2. We call for the repeal of the USA PATRIOT Act. Many of its provisions, along with many of the other so-called National Security Acts, undermine and erode our Bill of Rights, and contribute to the destruction of the democratic foundation of checks and balances between the branches of government.

3. Strict enforcement of our First Amendment rights of speech, assembly, association and petition. Federal, state and local governments must safeguard our right to public, non-violent protest. It is intolerable that law enforcement agencies intimidate lawful protesters with brutality, surveillance, repression and retaliation.

4. End torture, such as in prisons like Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay and other U.S.-controlled facilities. Ensure those guilty of ordering or executing torture are held accountable for violations U.S. and international law.

5. Restore habeas corpus, a legal action to obtain relief from illegal detention. End the use of indefinite detention without trial.

6. Revoke the 2010 re-authorization of the Patriot Act, including "John Doe" roving wiretaps and the "library records" provision.

7. End the abuse of National Security Letters, which the FBI uses to force Internet service providers, libraries, banks, and credit reporting companies to reveal sensitive information about their patrons.

8. End illegal government spying, including the use of warrantless wiretaps. Three federal judges have ruled that President Bush's National Security Agency warrantless wiretaps violated the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which contains criminal sanctions. Ensure that anyone who violated the FISA is held accountable for crimes committed.

9. Enact a constitutional amendment affirming that the rights outlined in our Bill of Rights are human rights and do not apply in any way to corporations.

10. Support U.S. constitutional guarantees for freedom of religion, separation of church and state, and that there shall be no religious test for public office. Eliminate federal, state, and local laws that discriminate against particular religious beliefs or non-belief. End faith-based initiatives and charitable choice programs, whereby public funds are used to support religious organizations that may not adhere to specified guidelines and standards, including anti-discrimination laws.

11. Oppose the death penalty in the United States and worldwide.

12. Support students' constitutional rights to free speech.

13. Ensure that government actions towards immigrants comply with our Constitution and universal human rights principles.

14. Support strict Fourth Amendment protections against illegal search and seizure.

15. Recognize that the privacy protections of the 4th amendment extend to the Internet. Demand the elimination of bulk Internet data collection by our government. Fund and promote research into alternate Internet structures that would build in privacy. Hold criminally accountable all government officials, employees and contractors who illegally spy on Americans, and who provide false, misleading or incomplete testimony to Congress about surveillance of American communications by law enforcement and intelligence agencies.
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Wow, so authoritarian. :roll:
 
TheDemSocialist said:
I say it explains why I drink soo much booze. Helps ease the pain of being affiliated with the two party system.
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Know what eases the pain better? Not being affiliated with it in the first place. :2razz:
 
TeleKat said:
Wow, so authoritarian. :roll:
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Under that section, no. It's not as if the Greens don't support a much more expanded Welfare state.

However, under that section, in addition to other state Green efforts, there's quite a bit of flirtation with the 9/11 Truther movement in there.
 
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Registered independent, but mostly vote republican, with some democrats or 3rd party if a particular candidate interests me.
 
TeleKat said:
If so, which one(s) and why?

I am registered as a Libertarian and frequently vote Green as well.
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I am a member of the Reform Party. But that party does not exist anymore in Georgia although it is active in 18 states. I vote for whom I consider the best candidate for the office regardless of party which includes third parties.
 
Libertarians got my vote in the races that only had a GOP and a Libertarian candidate running.
 
I'm a registered Republican so I can vote in the NH primaries (which as you know are a very big deal). I would like to vote Libertarian across the board but surprisingly, we don't have a lot of Libertarian candidates on our ballots in any given election. We do have some Free Staters running for state offices and I do vote for them when they are on my ballot.
 
Not registered with a political party since Virginia doesn't do that.

TeleKat said:
I am registered as a Libertarian and frequently vote Green as well.
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I could've swore you were from Virginia for some reason. My memory must be off.
 
Not registered, but vote for Libertarian candidates whenever possible.
 
TeleKat said:
Wow, so authoritarian. :roll:
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You quote one small section of a very large document, and claim it is proof the Greens are not authoritarian? If using the heavy handed iron fist of bureaucracy to force people, against their will, to behave a certain way isn't authoritarian, nothing is.

Not only that, but the section you quoted is contradicted in other portions of the Green platform. They are all over the map.
 
countryboy said:
You quote one small section of a very large document, and claim it is proof the Greens are not authoritarian? If using the heavy handed iron fist of bureaucracy to force people, against their will, to behave a certain way isn't authoritarian, nothing is.

Not only that, but the section you quoted is contradicted in other portions of the Green platform. They are all over the map.
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No different than your cherrypicking. Besides, if you are for restoring the constitution and protecting civil liberties you are not "authoritarian." Doesn't matter how many poor people you try to feed or how many kids you give a good education. You are using a buzzword you have given no contexual meaning to provoke an emotional response.
 
Since the beginning of what we call civilization, when men's dominance over women was firmly established, until the present day, our history has been marred with oppression of and brutality to women. The Green Party deplores this system of male domination, known as patriarchy, in all its forms, both subtle and overt — from oppression, inequality, and discrimination to all forms of violence against women and girls including rape, trafficking, forced sex which is also rape, slavery, prostitution and violence against women within marriage and relationships and in all institutions. The change the world is crying for cannot occur unless women's voices are heard. Democracy cannot work without equality for women, which provides equal participation and representation. It took an extraordinary and ongoing fight over 72 years for women to win the right to vote. However, the Equal Rights Amendment, first introduced in 1923, has still not been ratified by 2010, representing a continuous struggle of 87 years with no victory in sight.
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As soon as I read the word patriarchy I found myself fighting against the urge to stop reading. I just knew everything that followed was going to be bull****.
 
More so called libertarian green party politics, Telekat:

1. Make "pollution prevention" the preferred strategy for dealing with environmental justice issues, through eliminating environmental threats before they occur and considering cumulative environmental impacts when evaluating risk.

2. Uphold the precautionary principle, requiring polluters to bear the burden of proof in demonstrating the safety of their practices. Expand the application of the precautionary principle from chemicals and health to land use, waste, energy, food policy and local economic development.

3. Expand the public trust doctrine, which holds that government's role is to protect the commons, to include the domains of public health and protection of the natural environment.

4. Promote programs, policies, and legislation that build the capacity to identify disproportionate or discriminatory siting of polluting or toxic facilities. Assure non*discriminatory compliance with all environmental, health and safety laws to guarantee equal protection.

5. Facilitate procedural justice, ensuring the public's right to know. Ensure rules and regulations are transparent to help communities employ their rights and participate in decision-making. Provide information in languages appropriate to the affected communities.

6. Enforce corrective justice, ensuring the rights of commu*nities and local agencies to seek judicial redress. Communities and local agencies must not be required to show or prove "intent to discriminate" to achieve redress for problems of disproportionate and/or racist environmental impacts.

7. Target precautionary and corrective justice actions and resources in communities with the highest concentrations of environmental hazards and in communities lacking socioeconomic resources.

8. Support, enforce and strengthen the National Environmental Policy Act.
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I'm involved in trying to get the Justice Party organized at the State level in Wyoming, as my illness allows.
 
"Decline to state" but have voted for members of both major parties and several of the "third" parties depending on issues, positions, and year.
 
Registered Green, active. Registered Independent from 1961 to 2000.
 
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