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Should bigamy be legal

If you are for gay marriage are you pro bigamy too

  • I'm pro gay marriage and pro bigamy too

    Votes: 24 82.8%
  • I'm pro gay marriage anti bigamy

    Votes: 5 17.2%

  • Total voters
    29

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So a marriage between same sex couples is now legal across the land so the logical nest issue is bigamy.If the same sex can be married why not multiple partners? It sees like the term marriage and family are now open ended terms and are being redefined daily so if you are for gay marriage you surly must be for bigamy too I would think. Or are you?
 
Have you NOT seen the dozens of threads almost exactly like this????

Consenting adults. Let them do as they please. Actions and consequences.
 
So a marriage between same sex couples is now legal across the land so the logical nest issue is bigamy.If the same sex can be married why not multiple partners? It sees like the term marriage and family are now open ended terms and are being redefined daily so if you are for gay marriage you surly must be for bigamy too I would think. Or are you?

Ditto Dragonfly. I'm already discussing one where the OP was pretty much exact for yours (not necessarily word for word) save it said polygamy not bigamy.

Although I am interested in knowing whether or not you see polygamy as separate from bigamy, and discussing from there.
 
So a marriage between same sex couples is now legal across the land so the logical nest issue is bigamy.If the same sex can be married why not multiple partners? It sees like the term marriage and family are now open ended terms and are being redefined daily so if you are for gay marriage you surly must be for bigamy too I would think. Or are you?

Do you really mean polygamy? Even in a polygamous relationship each partner is in only one marriage at a time, although they may be not be the only man/woman in that marriage. Polygamy is about removing the limit of two marriage partners while bigamy permits one to be an multiple marriages at the same time. SSM seeks to keep the two partner limit but to (only) remove the opposite gender requirement for the partners, while bigamy seeks to allow marriage partnerships to overlap.
 
Complaining about dozens of threads on a specific topic is ridiculous, given it's very common around here. Just like every five years we rehash the same stuff over, there's not much chance of changing that.
 
Do you really mean polygamy? Even in a polygamous relationship each partner is in only one marriage at a time, although they may be not be the only man/woman in that marriage. Polygamy is about removing the limit of two marriage partners while bigamy permits one to be an multiple marriages at the same time. SSM seeks to keep the two partner limit but to (only) remove the opposite gender requirement for the partners, while bigamy seeks to allow marriage partnerships to overlap.

It should also be noted that bigamy only applies to the legal status. So one can be in a polygamous marriage, albeit one not legally recognized, without engaging in bigamy.
 
So a marriage between same sex couples is now legal across the land so the logical nest issue is bigamy.If the same sex can be married why not multiple partners? It sees like the term marriage and family are now open ended terms and are being redefined daily so if you are for gay marriage you surly must be for bigamy too I would think. Or are you?


Exactly, why not if all parties are consenting human adults.
 
So a marriage between same sex couples is now legal across the land so the logical nest issue is bigamy.If the same sex can be married why not multiple partners? It sees like the term marriage and family are now open ended terms and are being redefined daily so if you are for gay marriage you surly must be for bigamy too I would think. Or are you?

Of course people should honor and respect other peoples right to choose, bigamy polygamy whatever as long as it is a legal contract between the family, who cares? If a man and a women want to bring another women into the marriage they should have a right to all three sign a contract to ensure it, however if the wife doesn't sign the contract maybe it wouldn't be legal? The point is, is if government should stay out of marriage based on sex IT SHOULD STAY OUT BASED ON EVERYTHING. its an invasion of civil liberties and rights given to us by life to choose who we want to marry and what our ideal family is, not for the government to decide what the ideal family is. Remember, the government serves us we don't serve them.
 
So a marriage between same sex couples is now legal across the land so the logical nest issue is bigamy.If the same sex can be married why not multiple partners? It sees like the term marriage and family are now open ended terms and are being redefined daily so if you are for gay marriage you surly must be for bigamy too I would think. Or are you?


The arguments in favor of SSM:

  1. Children do best in two parent married households. SSM therefore benefits children.
  2. Marriage promotes social stability.
  3. No good reason to oppose it.

For other types of marriage I would expect supporters to show similar reason for support. I have not seen such from supporters of bigamy/polygamy, but would certainly be willing to look at their arguments and data if they want to present it.
 
Why stop there. How about bestiality or object sexuality.

On a side note I'm against polygamy simply because often 1 wife is too many.
 
It should also be noted that bigamy only applies to the legal status. So one can be in a polygamous marriage, albeit one not legally recognized, without engaging in bigamy.

One can also be in a SSM, albeit not legally recongized, without violating any laws at all. The SSM push back is mainly from the effort to change what is legally recognized as marriage without having to get aprroval by majority vote (or constitutional amendment) but by simply getting a "wise judge" to say what the state (federal?) law "really must be".

When one looks at our nation's constitution they find that amendment #14 was NOT seen as sufficient to give women or black men the right to vote and that caused the addition of amendments #15 and #20 - NOT simply the opinion if a "wise judge" saying that amendment #14 really makes those individual rights become the law of the land.
 
The arguments in favor of SSM:

  1. Children do best in two parent married households. SSM therefore benefits children.
  2. Marriage promotes social stability.
  3. No good reason to oppose it.

For other types of marriage I would expect supporters to show similar reason for support. I have not seen such from supporters of bigamy/polygamy, but would certainly be willing to look at their arguments and data if they want to present it.

I would never enter into a polygamist marriage myself. However, looking at it from the outside in:

1. The children in multiple households are raised with the wives sharing their rearing, and sharing in the capacity of a mother figure at all times
2. It's none of my business
 
So a marriage between same sex couples is now legal across the land so the logical nest issue is bigamy.If the same sex can be married why not multiple partners? It sees like the term marriage and family are now open ended terms and are being redefined daily so if you are for gay marriage you surly must be for bigamy too I would think. Or are you?

Bigamy!?!? What's next, HOMOSEXUAL bigamy!?!?!?!?
 
So a marriage between same sex couples is now legal across the land so the logical nest issue is bigamy.If the same sex can be married why not multiple partners? It sees like the term marriage and family are now open ended terms and are being redefined daily so if you are for gay marriage you surly must be for bigamy too I would think. Or are you?

I don't really think that marriage should be in the mandate of government. And as it is totally legal two guys to cohabit with one girl, it would be no problem. As it is, I do not like gay marriage but find that bigamy should be allowed.
 
The arguments in favor of SSM:

  1. Children do best in two parent married households. SSM therefore benefits children.
  2. Marriage promotes social stability.
  3. No good reason to oppose it.

For other types of marriage I would expect supporters to show similar reason for support. I have not seen such from supporters of bigamy/polygamy, but would certainly be willing to look at their arguments and data if they want to present it.

All that you say is true yet nothing you have said justifies law being made by a judge. Why do we have constitutional amendments #15 and #20 if amendment #14 really grants those rights? One can certainly make a similar argument (valid or not) that amendment #14 makes marijuana possession/use legal when one state allows that "right" and that "blue laws" violate amendment #21/#14. What bothers me is that many state (county and city) laws conflict (treat the same act/right differently) but are not said to violate amendment #14's equal protection "mandate".
 
All that you say is true yet nothing you have said justifies law being made by a judge. Why do we have constitutional amendments #15 and #20 if amendment #14 really grants those rights? One can certainly make a similar argument (valid or not) that amendment #14 makes marijuana possession/use legal when one state allows that "right" and that "blue laws" violate amendment #21/#14. What bothers me is that many state (county and city) laws conflict (treat the same act/right differently) but are not said to violate amendment #14's equal protection "mandate".

Your post has nothing whatsoever to do with anything I said,
 
Your post has nothing whatsoever to do with anything I said,

Indeed it does when those arguments (emphasis on #3) are used to strike down a state law when presented to a judge. States should not need a "good reason" (acceptable to a given federal judge) to enact laws. The fact that a law is popular gets it passed so if the people (via there elected representatives) say no alcohol sales it is allowed to stand despite the existence of amendment $21/#14.
 
I would never enter into a polygamist marriage myself. However, looking at it from the outside in:

1. The children in multiple households are raised with the wives sharing their rearing, and sharing in the capacity of a mother figure at all times
2. It's none of my business

Unless it leads to taking young girls as sexual partners and/or wives. 8)
 
Polygamy is illegal in all states and bigamy is in some.

Bigamy Law & Legal Definition

To be more specific and to the point - we're talking "consenting adults" here.

Not:

1) children
2) dead people
3) animals
4) garden utensils
5) automobiles
6) bank accounts
...................................an so on.

Consenting adults.

And lest people forget, we could also be talking about a woman with multiple husbands.
 
No option for the not pro ssm and not pro bigamy.

I will say that making the wrong decision on SSM doesn't mean that we should then also make the wrong decision on bigamy.



However, it is also worth pointing out that increasingly we no longer have the ability to make decisions on what constitutes marriage. So what the "sovereign" people think is irrelevant. They have a "right" now, and polygamists can claim First Amendment justification as well.
 
So a marriage between same sex couples is now legal across the land so the logical nest issue is bigamy.If the same sex can be married why not multiple partners? It sees like the term marriage and family are now open ended terms and are being redefined daily so if you are for gay marriage you surly must be for bigamy too I would think. Or are you?

Not at all.

My reasoning for supporting same sex marriage is my personal belief that our marriage laws are a violation of the Equal Protection Clause on the basis of gender discrimination.

I've still yet to be presented with an argument for bigamy that convinces me it'd fall under an Equal Protection Clause protection. I see no way it'd fit into a middle or upper tier category, which would make it the lowest tier at best which is a very low threshold to jump through. Considering the SIZABLE structural change...instead of language change...that would have to occur by allowing those who are married to marry other people and the multitude of new legal issues that would cause, I think the state has a legitimate interest in not moving forward with such.
 
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