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What should be done to Americans caught being ISIS members by US Forces

What should the US military do to Americans serving with ISIS

  • send them for "rendition" in an allied nation

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Try them for treason.


This would probably be just about the definition of treason, though I'm sure lawyers would find a way to question it.


Since we technically don't have a declaration of war...
 
funny how people think today, in 1949 the Rosenberg's were hung for giving secrets of the bomb to the Russians.

today people some people would find it hard to punish people who committed treason.

It it treasonous for an American to fight against the regimes in Syria and Iraq?
 
treason by the founders is defined as.... giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war.....enemy of america.

Well, I think it might be simpler to not capture any. I don't see a legal route through the minefield.
 
Well, I think it might be simpler to not capture any. I don't see a legal route through the minefield.

well even though there is no war declared, the government might be inclined to say, "since our military is fighting them from the air"......any aid and confront could be treason.

this is why constitutional law should be strictly adhered to, and wars declared by congress, not presidential use of military power when he feels like it.
 
This would probably be just about the definition of treason, though I'm sure lawyers would find a way to question it.


Since we technically don't have a declaration of war...

Lawyers always find ways to question everything.

That's what they do best.
 
funny how people think today, in 1949 the Rosenberg's were hung for giving secrets of the bomb to the Russians.

today people some people would find it hard to punish people who committed treason.

they actually were made into crispy critters in 1953.
 
thanks for the correction...:)

I knew they got fried because I saw a movie about it and Julius fainted before they cooked him

and I knew it was under Ike. apparently Julius got what he deserved but his wife was murdered by the government
 
It it treasonous for an American to fight against the regimes in Syria and Iraq?

It is treasonous to join in a war against the United States of America, which is how ISIL perceives itself.
 
It is treasonous to join in a war against the United States of America, which is how ISIL perceives itself.

I think Londoner JIhadi john should be publicly defiled and then beheaded on TV when caught

the parents of the men he murdered should be allowed to do the defiling and then saw his head off
 
Sixty minutes is currently interviewing some London based scum bag who is a radical islamist who has been charged with recruiting for Isis and admitted to supporting jihad against the west. This report noted that one of the ISIS thugs who beheaded an unarmed western victim had a "london accent"

what should be done to americans captured by US or allied troops fighting against ISIS?

America does not have boots on the ground and as such will not capture anyone.
 
America does not have boots on the ground and as such will not capture anyone.

all of that can change. I suggest hunter-killer teams
 
all of that can change. I suggest hunter-killer teams

If Americans are caught in Iraq, committing crimes* there, the Iraqi government has jurisdiction.

*Since ISIS are insurgents legally, participation is criminal regardless of the participant's nationality.

We should leave it to the Iraqis and Iranians.
 
America does not have boots on the ground and as such will not capture anyone.

Last I heard another 1,500 non-boots-on-the-ground were headed over.
 
It is treasonous to join in a war against the United States of America, which is how ISIL perceives itself.

I hope ISIL's perceptions aren't a consideration.
I don't want to look like defending these jerks but my instincts tell me that fighting for a cause in a foreign country should not be a crime at home. Should everyone who went to Spain to fight fascism have been charged when they came home? Lots of Canadians joined the US army and marines to fight in Viet Nam.
This is why I say there should be no American citizens captured there.
 
i hope isil's perceptions aren't a consideration.
I don't want to look like defending these jerks but my instincts tell me that fighting for a cause in a foreign country should not be a crime at home. Should everyone who went to spain to fight fascism have been charged when they came home? Lots of canadians joined the us army and marines to fight in viet nam.
This is why i say there should be no american citizens captured there.

take no prisoners!!
 
I hope ISIL's perceptions aren't a consideration.
I don't want to look like defending these jerks but my instincts tell me that fighting for a cause in a foreign country should not be a crime at home. Should everyone who went to Spain to fight fascism have been charged when they came home? Lots of Canadians joined the US army and marines to fight in Viet Nam.
This is why I say there should be no American citizens captured there.
It should not be a crime at home unless the soldier is fighting for an entity that is an enemy of his own nation. In the case of ISIS, it is an enemy of all of the western democracies. It is, in fact, an enemy of liberty.
 
take no prisoners!!

Literally. Why would you? Soldiers facing overwhelming odds and certain annihilation are allowed to surrender, but stateless fanatic terrorists have removed themselves from accepted civilized procedures. Just so you be careful of collaterals, and there's liable to be many, send them all to their Valhalla.
 
It should not be a crime at home unless the soldier is fighting for an entity that is an enemy of his own nation. In the case of ISIS, it is an enemy of all of the western democracies. It is, in fact, an enemy of liberty.

Well, I'd like another nation, another government, involved before I'd use the word 'treason', but I take your point.
 
I hope ISIL's perceptions aren't a consideration.
I don't want to look like defending these jerks but my instincts tell me that fighting for a cause in a foreign country should not be a crime at home.

That cause includes the overthrow of our government - making it either treason or rebellion, both of which are punishable by death.
 
Well, I'd like another nation, another government, involved before I'd use the word 'treason', but I take your point.

The Islamic State collects taxes, runs a judicial system, issues passports, and is in the process of developing its own monetary system, making it more independently sovereign than most nations in Europe.
 
I'd simply suggest revoking their citizenship, passport etc., as well as black list them as terrorists barring them from traveling to the US. If they left assets in the US either their family will need to address upkeep of them or it will be repossessed (like cars and houses and such). There's no grounds to rendition them or kill them as spies.
 
The Islamic State collects taxes, runs a judicial system, issues passports, and is in the process of developing its own monetary system, making it more independently sovereign than most nations in Europe.

I'm not sure that makes them a state or a nation. The Confederacy did much of that as well, but never really became a nation.
 
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