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Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof vests?

Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof vests?

  • Private citizens should be allowed to buy only certain types bullet proof vests.

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  • Private citizens should not be allowed to buy any kind of bullet proof vests.

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  • Private citizens should be restricted at where they can wear bullet proof vests.

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  • Private citizens should not be allowed to wear any kind of bullet proof vests.

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Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof vests?

Private citizens should be allowed to buy any kind of bullet proof vests they want.
Private citizens should be allowed to buy only certain types bullet proof vests.
Private citizens should not be allowed to buy any kind of bullet proof vests.

Private citizens should be allowed to wear bullet proof vests where ever they want.
Private citizens should be restricted at where they can wear bullet proof vests.
Private citizens should not be allowed to wear any kind of bullet proof vests.

other( if you or don't have some concerns regarding former criminals)



Private citizens should not be banned from buying any kind of body armor and should be allowed to wear it where ever they want to. The government should not have the right to make it easier to shoot you.



Proposed bill limits sale of body armor to private citizens
OKLAHOMA CITY - A local company's sales have skyrocketed in recent months. It's all because of a bill introduced by a Representative from California. The bill would prevent citizens from buying military grade body armor.

Michael Blackmore is the owner of Armor Advantage, a body armor sales and manufacturing company based out of Purcell. When it comes to body armor there's almost nothing Blackmore doesn't know, but a new bill proposed by a Congressman from California has him stumped.

"It started, probably good intentions, but I don't know that it's been thought all the way through," Blackmore said.

The Responsible Body Armor Possession Act, proposed by Rep. Mike Honda, CA, would prevent private citizens from buying military grade body armor.

"They state military grade, but they don't state where that line is, and that's a very slippery slope," Blackmore said.

Blackmore says private citizens like security guards and even taxi drivers buy body armor all the time. He says he won't let his kids go to the shooting range unless they wear it, and he says many people where body armor when they go hunting.

Blackmore says for him it's not a financial opposition he has to the bill. In fact, since it was announced Blackmore's body armor sales have skyrocketed 300%. For him, it's about principle.

"I personally believe that politics should be kept out of this and the bottom line is, we are a free country and we have the right to choose," he said.
 
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Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

There is no right to body armor, only to infantry weaponry.

The government is acting within its limits even if it decides to outright ban body armor.

As for how I feel, I think it should only be regulated, not banned or anything.
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

"I personally believe that politics should be kept out of this and the bottom line is, we are a free country and we have the right to choose," he said.

Enough said right there.
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

It is unconscionable that the government would presume to regulate any article of clothing, including body armor, that affects absolutely nobody else in any way and puts nobody at any kind of risk.

It is reasonable for the Homeland Security people to be interested if there is an unusual increase in sales of body armor, most especially in a particular area and by a particular group/class of people. And I would have no problem with a group buying an unusual concentration of body armor to come under increased scrutiny by those who are responsible for the common defense.
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

What a stupid bill.
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

There is no right to body armor, only to infantry weaponry.

The founders who were opposed to listing our rights in the Bill of Rights were afraid of people just like you, who would think that the government had the power to limit any right not explicitly stated.

Our rights are what the government cannot do, not what the people can do.

The government is acting within its limits even if it decides to outright ban body armor.

By what law? Which Government? If federal, how does the Supremacy clause give the feds the power to regulate/ban anything only being made and sold in the same state?

As for how I feel, I think it should only be regulated, not banned or anything.

Regulated how?
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

The Second Amendment clearly mentions body armor, so yes, it should be legal for anyone, anywhere. ;)
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof vests?

Private citizens should be allowed to buy any kind of bullet proof vests they want.
Private citizens should be allowed to buy only certain types bullet proof vests.
Private citizens should not be allowed to buy any kind of bullet proof vests.

Private citizens should be allowed to wear bullet proof vests where ever they want.
Private citizens should be restricted at where they can wear bullet proof vests.
Private citizens should not be allowed to wear any kind of bullet proof vests.

other( if you or don't have some concerns regarding former criminals)



Private citizens should not be banned from buying any kind of body armor and should be allowed to wear it where ever they want to. The government should not have the right to make it easier to shoot you.



Proposed bill limits sale of body armor to private citizens
OKLAHOMA CITY - A local company's sales have skyrocketed in recent months. It's all because of a bill introduced by a Representative from California. The bill would prevent citizens from buying military grade body armor.

Michael Blackmore is the owner of Armor Advantage, a body armor sales and manufacturing company based out of Purcell. When it comes to body armor there's almost nothing Blackmore doesn't know, but a new bill proposed by a Congressman from California has him stumped.

"It started, probably good intentions, but I don't know that it's been thought all the way through," Blackmore said.

The Responsible Body Armor Possession Act, proposed by Rep. Mike Honda, CA, would prevent private citizens from buying military grade body armor.

"They state military grade, but they don't state where that line is, and that's a very slippery slope," Blackmore said.

Blackmore says private citizens like security guards and even taxi drivers buy body armor all the time. He says he won't let his kids go to the shooting range unless they wear it, and he says many people where body armor when they go hunting.

Blackmore says for him it's not a financial opposition he has to the bill. In fact, since it was announced Blackmore's body armor sales have skyrocketed 300%. For him, it's about principle.

"I personally believe that politics should be kept out of this and the bottom line is, we are a free country and we have the right to choose," he said.

Citizens should be allowed pretty much anything they want. Restrictions should require very high standards of poof of grave and direct danger to others.
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

There is absolutely no reason to outlaw this. It's an article of clothing that protects the user. Is the government worried they won't be able to kill someone? Really?
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

There is no right to body armor, only to infantry weaponry.

The government is acting within its limits even if it decides to outright ban body armor.

As for how I feel, I think it should only be regulated, not banned or anything.

I do not think we should allow our representatives to restrict our rights unless there is better reason than i have seen here.
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

It is unconscionable that the government would presume to regulate any article of clothing, including body armor, that affects absolutely nobody else in any way and puts nobody at any kind of risk.

It is reasonable for the Homeland Security people to be interested if there is an unusual increase in sales of body armor, most especially in a particular area and by a particular group/class of people. And I would have no problem with a group buying an unusual concentration of body armor to come under increased scrutiny by those who are responsible for the common defense.

I remember reading/hearing about some bank robbery in California I think where the two robbers were wearing body armor and shooting cops and they couldn't be stopped for a awhile until they finally got shot in the head. Most lesigslation/laws are a reaction to something that happened like that.
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

I do not think we should allow our representatives to restrict our rights unless there is better reason than i have seen here.

and yet, we do it all the time, usually in the name of security.
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

and yet, we do it all the time, usually in the name of security.

And that would make it better?
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

Buy whatever you want. Govt has no business involving itself.
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

I remember reading/hearing about some bank robbery in California I think where the two robbers were wearing body armor and shooting cops and they couldn't be stopped for a awhile until they finally got shot in the head. Most lesigslation/laws are a reaction to something that happened like that.

I understand that, but the fact that some use something for illegal purposes should not trump the right of law abiding citizens to use that something. If we start forbidding the law abiding citizen from using ANYTHING that somebody else uses in an illegal way, there's a whole bunch of stuff we law abiding citizens won't be allowed to use. The right of a citizen to use body armor to protect himself/herself or just because he/she likes the way it looks should not be taken away because of two robbers. And I'm pretty sure a ban on body armor for ordinary citizens would not discourage a robber from getting and using body armor.
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

I understand that, but the fact that some use something for illegal purposes should not trump the right of law abiding citizens to use that something. If we start forbidding the law abiding citizen from using ANYTHING that somebody else uses in an illegal way, there's a whole bunch of stuff we law abiding citizens won't be allowed to use. The right of a citizen to use body armor to protect himself/herself or just because he/she likes the way it looks should not be taken away because of two robbers. And I'm pretty sure a ban on body armor for ordinary citizens would not discourage a robber from getting and using body armor.

Are you seriously telling me that CRIMINALS don't obey LAWS?

j/k, IMO in a free society one needs not explain why he needs to own something in order to have it.
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

There is absolutely no reason to outlaw this. It's an article of clothing that protects the user. Is the government worried they won't be able to kill someone? Really?

Yeah, pretty much.
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

Restricting body armor would be as ridiculous as restricting the possession of fire extinguishers.



Cali leading the way... that figures.
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

What would make what better?

What i implied above. Showing that the harm caused is much greater by having them.
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

I remember reading/hearing about some bank robbery in California I think where the two robbers were wearing body armor and shooting cops and they couldn't be stopped for a awhile until they finally got shot in the head. Most lesigslation/laws are a reaction to something that happened like that.

When I lived in Illinois, where it is illegal for a private citizen to wear vests the story above was the example given. I do a lot of training with the officers in my hometown so obviously I can call them for questions. A friend of mine who is a real estate attorney was attending the sale of a farm that was foreclosed and he was receiving death threats from the family. We tried to get him a vest but was told they were not legal for citizens. He ended up hiring private guards instead. The problem with this is how many people can afford armed guards if they feel their life is in danger.

I understand the position of law enforcement considering what a mess that shootout was in Cali, but I also fear regular citizens could be put in danger in certain cases.
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

Yet again, the government, and usually those on the left, want to further weaken the average citizenry. First, it's gun control so we cannot defend ourselves. Now, it's body armor so we cannot protect ourselves. All in the childishly naive belief that these legal restrictions will cause criminals to not have access to them.
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

I remember reading/hearing about some bank robbery in California I think where the two robbers were wearing body armor and shooting cops and they couldn't be stopped for a awhile until they finally got shot in the head. Most lesigslation/laws are a reaction to something that happened like that.
They indeed are a reaction to stuff like that. They're also poorly thought out and never serve the purposes alleged.
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

I should have voted yes to both buying and wearing

anything cops can have in terms of protective gear other civilians should be able to have. I have a Level III vest that has a handgun in a pouch with a flashlight near my nightstand. its not a big as I would like but its better than nothing
 
Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

There is absolutely no reason to outlaw this. It's an article of clothing that protects the user. Is the government worried they won't be able to kill someone? Really?

This is what the bill looks like.They want to ban something so it is easier for them to kill you.
 
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