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Flauntingly religious conservatives, do they hurt conservatism overall?

Flauntingly religious conservatives, do they hurt conservatism overall?

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    Votes: 6 16.7%

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I've noticed this phenomena throughout my life being extremely conservative myself. Openly religious people tend to "Judge your conservatism against theirs" EVEN when your conservatism is far deeper than their own. I've noticed that such types are the exact people that do the most damage to conservatism on all levels. (I'm saying this as a conservative person). I just can't stand it. It makes me sick seeing someone go around acting as if their religion somehow makes them conservative. IN my experience religious people of all walks are some of the most non-conservative lifestyle people you'd ever meet yet then they put a cross on and "walla" they're ready to supposedly judge on others.



-How are you more conservative than me because you wear religious jewelry? (They're actually serious)

-How are you more conservative than me because you wear a certain attire? (Again, they're actually serious)

-Do you truly believe that you can't be conservative and non religious? What do you think conservatives did before the fantasies (religions) were adopted?
 
Yes, but they have their reward.
 
I've noticed this phenomena throughout my life being extremely conservative myself. Openly religious people tend to "Judge your conservatism against theirs" EVEN when your conservatism is far deeper than their own. I've noticed that such types are the exact people that do the most damage to conservatism on all levels. (I'm saying this as a conservative person). I just can't stand it. It makes me sick seeing someone go around acting as if their religion somehow makes them conservative. IN my experience religious people of all walks are some of the most non-conservative lifestyle people you'd ever meet yet then they put a cross on and "walla" they're ready to supposedly judge on others.

'Voila".
You're welcome.
 
I think they hurt themselves and their religion too. Many hard right wing religious conservatives I know put their conservatism before their religion and try to warp religion into something that supports their political beliefs. I think they hurt conservatism because they are mainly just dogmatic mouth pieces set in their ways and will warp everything else to try and fit their view and why they are right without objectively analyzing issues. There are all kinds of people on both sides that do this, but specifically for religious conservatives who flaunt that, I do think it hurts conservatism overall.
 
If Christians were so conservative, they'd be Jews...

Ba da bump!

Let's at least have the courage to call them out by name, eh?

Let's also stop with this "hurt their religion" mishegoss...It's one of the most self-righteous phrases I've ever heard. It also turns the "He who is without sin..." into a complete mockery when it is hurled at the religious by the non and/or hostile to religious when they don't like being told "No."

In close, who gives a rat's ass about the quantifiable nature or yours or others conservativism?
 
I've noticed this phenomena throughout my life being extremely conservative myself. Openly religious people tend to "Judge your conservatism against theirs" EVEN when your conservatism is far deeper than their own. I've noticed that such types are the exact people that do the most damage to conservatism on all levels. (I'm saying this as a conservative person). I just can't stand it. It makes me sick seeing someone go around acting as if their religion somehow makes them conservative. IN my experience religious people of all walks are some of the most non-conservative lifestyle people you'd ever meet yet then they put a cross on and "walla" they're ready to supposedly judge on others.



-How are you more conservative than me because you wear religious jewelry? (They're actually serious)

-How are you more conservative than me because you wear a certain attire? (Again, they're actually serious)

-Do you truly believe that you can't be conservative and non religious? What do you think conservatives did before the fantasies (religions) were adopted?

It's a tactic. Basically if you disagree with them you are a liberal. I have been called liberal plenty of times. It just means they aren't really good at argument.
 
I've noticed this phenomena throughout my life being extremely conservative myself. Openly religious people tend to "Judge your conservatism against theirs" EVEN when your conservatism is far deeper than their own. I've noticed that such types are the exact people that do the most damage to conservatism on all levels. (I'm saying this as a conservative person). I just can't stand it. It makes me sick seeing someone go around acting as if their religion somehow makes them conservative. IN my experience religious people of all walks are some of the most non-conservative lifestyle people you'd ever meet yet then they put a cross on and "walla" they're ready to supposedly judge on others.



-How are you more conservative than me because you wear religious jewelry? (They're actually serious)

-How are you more conservative than me because you wear a certain attire? (Again, they're actually serious)

-Do you truly believe that you can't be conservative and non religious? What do you think conservatives did before the fantasies (religions) were adopted?

There's a herd or pack mentality in politics, especially concerning a party. To fit in you must check as many boxes as possible, even at the expense of previous more rational beliefs. It fits for all parties and even certain Independents and Moderates. I know I'm a mixed bag of conservative values in some areas and liberal on other issues, probably because I don't use those ideals to form my opinions. I attempt to be rational and objective when deciding on what's a reasonable stance, without using faith based ideas but rather principles guided by fairness and equality. It's a simple formula that eliminates a lot of biases and prejudices.

For me the most devoutly religious people are those who show or speak it the least. They seem to not need the outward appearance as much for conviction. I believe most organized religion is for those who need it.
 
I never trust anyone who wears their religion on their sleeve. Some of the most despicable people I ever knew were always flouting their supposed Christianity.
 
Yes.

Unless you like your politics as stated by Pat Robertson.
 
No, not in all demographics. But then again, most of the religious "right" was actually part of the Dems and the Left 30-40 years ago. Many of them may hurt conservatives only because they are not conservatives and there are too many people as dumb as liberals who think they are.
 
It deeply hurts me to see these buffoons of people flaunt themselves around like retards. They're exactly like ISIS twisting my religious values to reach their goals. It astounds me on how they can pick and choose so easily from my Bible and use God's words to spread hate through our society
 
It deeply hurts me to see these buffoons of people flaunt themselves around like retards. They're exactly like ISIS twisting my religious values to reach their goals. It astounds me on how they can pick and choose so easily from my Bible and use God's words to spread hate through our society

That's the thing that irritates me the most about them.
 
I've noticed this phenomena throughout my life being extremely conservative myself. Openly religious people tend to "Judge your conservatism against theirs" EVEN when your conservatism is far deeper than their own. I've noticed that such types are the exact people that do the most damage to conservatism on all levels. (I'm saying this as a conservative person). I just can't stand it. It makes me sick seeing someone go around acting as if their religion somehow makes them conservative. IN my experience religious people of all walks are some of the most non-conservative lifestyle people you'd ever meet yet then they put a cross on and "walla" they're ready to supposedly judge on others.



-How are you more conservative than me because you wear religious jewelry? (They're actually serious)

-How are you more conservative than me because you wear a certain attire? (Again, they're actually serious)

-Do you truly believe that you can't be conservative and non religious? What do you think conservatives did before the fantasies (religions) were adopted?

The modern attempt to separate conservatism from religion is foolish and ignorant of history.

From when the French Revolutionaries were first opposed, conservatism has been linked with religious faith.

If you think conservatism predates religion, then you frankly don't have a clue about history.
 
I've noticed this phenomena throughout my life being extremely conservative myself. Openly religious people tend to "Judge your conservatism against theirs" EVEN when your conservatism is far deeper than their own. I've noticed that such types are the exact people that do the most damage to conservatism on all levels. (I'm saying this as a conservative person). I just can't stand it. It makes me sick seeing someone go around acting as if their religion somehow makes them conservative. IN my experience religious people of all walks are some of the most non-conservative lifestyle people you'd ever meet yet then they put a cross on and "walla" they're ready to supposedly judge on others.



-How are you more conservative than me because you wear religious jewelry? (They're actually serious)

-How are you more conservative than me because you wear a certain attire? (Again, they're actually serious)

-Do you truly believe that you can't be conservative and non religious? What do you think conservatives did before the fantasies (religions) were adopted?

The problem is "judgement". The problem for conservatives in this context started with Jerry fallwell, then moved through Ralph Reed and has been carried on by Pat Robertson and a whole host of Republican politicians whoare only placating to the Bible voting block. US conservatism has been forever bbeen linked to religiocentric judgemental fundamentalism. The bigger problem of course is that patriotism - ("true patriotism...") has been wrapped in a flag worn by Jesus.
 
With the exception of the extremely conservative and the extremely liberal, most of the country considers themselves fiscally conservative and socially liberal. The only real debate comes down to what is considered "fiscally conservative" vice socially liberal... as in, what do we spend the money on?

I would vote Republican all day, every day, if the Republicans didn't alienate women and gays. And if they practiced what they preached regarding fiscal policy. Sadly, I must now waste my vote on libertarian candidates.
 
I've noticed this phenomena throughout my life being extremely conservative myself. Openly religious people tend to "Judge your conservatism against theirs" EVEN when your conservatism is far deeper than their own. I've noticed that such types are the exact people that do the most damage to conservatism on all levels. (I'm saying this as a conservative person). I just can't stand it. It makes me sick seeing someone go around acting as if their religion somehow makes them conservative. IN my experience religious people of all walks are some of the most non-conservative lifestyle people you'd ever meet yet then they put a cross on and "walla" they're ready to supposedly judge on others.



-How are you more conservative than me because you wear religious jewelry? (They're actually serious)

-How are you more conservative than me because you wear a certain attire? (Again, they're actually serious)

-Do you truly believe that you can't be conservative and non religious? What do you think conservatives did before the fantasies (religions) were adopted?

I totally think the Right pushes away independents and some Leftists by making the Conservative position, one that is so commonly seen as a Christian view. To their credit, few Conservatives if any, have pushed for students to legally attend church, purchase a bible, or pray. While the Left uses the state to take money by force from taxpayers, and make it law kids must attend schools that purchase Leftist textbooks (on Economics and History), while being taught by a government employee who is most likely a Leftist, and require (yes require, I just got out of high school in May) they Pledge their Allegiance to the government flag.

Yes them always taking about it is bothersome, but at least they seldom if ever use the state as a tool to force funding for their agendas and require kids to listen to their religious view from age 5-18.
 
I've noticed this phenomena throughout my life being extremely conservative myself. Openly religious people tend to "Judge your conservatism against theirs" EVEN when your conservatism is far deeper than their own. I've noticed that such types are the exact people that do the most damage to conservatism on all levels. (I'm saying this as a conservative person). I just can't stand it. It makes me sick seeing someone go around acting as if their religion somehow makes them conservative. IN my experience religious people of all walks are some of the most non-conservative lifestyle people you'd ever meet yet then they put a cross on and "walla" they're ready to supposedly judge on others.



-How are you more conservative than me because you wear religious jewelry? (They're actually serious)

-How are you more conservative than me because you wear a certain attire? (Again, they're actually serious)

-Do you truly believe that you can't be conservative and non religious? What do you think conservatives did before the fantasies (religions) were adopted?


It seemed to work real good for that famous Conservative GW Bush, the first torturer.
 
The modern attempt to separate conservatism from religion is foolish and ignorant of history.

From when the French Revolutionaries were first opposed, conservatism has been linked with religious faith.

If you think conservatism predates religion, then you frankly don't have a clue about history.

I don't think so.... most of the founding fathers were influenced by Deism. Which is a very non-religious interpretation of religion.
 
I don't think so.... most of the founding fathers were influenced by Deism. Which is a very non-religious interpretation of religion.

The founding fathers were not conservatives.
 
In close, who gives a rat's ass about the quantifiable nature or yours or others conservativism?

The people that want reasonable conservative candidates to get into office. Ones that base their platforms on actual conservative principles that address govt and not peoples' private lives or views based solely on religion (for example, 'murder' against the law is a widely held principle, as well as most religions. While Blue Laws are/were laws based on religion and are not widely held by others.)
 
The people that want reasonable conservative candidates to get into office. Ones that base their platforms on actual conservative principles that address govt and not peoples' private lives or views based solely on religion (for example, 'murder' against the law is a widely held principle, as well as most religions. While Blue Laws are/were laws based on religion and are not widely held by others.)

I'm sure that conservatives around the globe are thankful that they have you to tell them what they want...:roll:
 
No, not in all demographics. But then again, most of the religious "right" was actually part of the Dems and the Left 30-40 years ago. Many of them may hurt conservatives only because they are not conservatives and there are too many people as dumb as liberals who think they are.

Is there an english translation to this? I haven't a clue what you are trying to say. The way it reads to me is complete nonsense, and since nonsense is not what I think you intended, I think you need to try this again.
 
I'm sure that conservatives around the globe are thankful that they have you to tell them what they want...:roll:

Hey, the religious have ignored reality to their own detriment many times...I don't expect them to change, Religious fundamentalists are, by definition and dogmatic nature, unable to change, period :mrgreen:
 
The modern attempt to separate conservatism from religion is foolish and ignorant of history.

From when the French Revolutionaries were first opposed, conservatism has been linked with religious faith.

If you think conservatism predates religion, then you frankly don't have a clue about history.




It does predate religion. Who do you truly think were the individuals to decide to write down the various religions? Are you truly saying they were liberals or some form of anti traditionalists before they decided to codify traditions into religions on paper? That's entirely irrational to even suggest that conservatism has anything at all to do with religion. Conservatism (traditionalism) absolutely predates codified religion.

Try telling the ancient barbarians of Europe that the raping Christian Romans were the actual traditionalists. Try telling the Aztecs that the raping Spanish Catholics were the traditionalists.

Something tells me the Barbarians and Aztecs disagreed.

Face it. Religion is the ultimate Liberalism. The ultimate historical justification for cultural and historical rape and genocide of peoples everywhere. Religion is inherently an anti traditionalist ideology in its very core being. It has to first annihilate all original culture.

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It does predate religion. Who do you truly think were the individuals to decide to write down the various religions? Are you truly saying they were liberals or some form of anti traditionalists before they decided to codify traditions into religions on paper? That's entirely irrational to even suggest that conservatism has anything at all to do with religion. Conservatism (traditionalism) absolutely predates codified religion.

Try telling the ancient barbarians of Europe that the raping Christian Romans were the actual traditionalists. Try telling the Aztecs that the raping Spanish Catholics were the traditionalists.

Something tells me the Barbarians and Aztecs disagreed.

Face it. Religion is the ultimate Liberalism. The ultimate historical justification for cultural and historical rape and genocide of peoples everywhere. Religion is inherently an anti traditionalist ideology in its very core being. It has to first annihilate all original culture.

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What are you babbling about?

If you think medieval Europe was full of liberals then I can't help you.
 
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