• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Is Elizabeth Warren a hypocrite?

Is Elizabeth Warren a hypocrite?

  • Total voters
    27
TurtleDude said:
socialist control freaks who appeal to low wattage minions are dangerous NIMBY.
Click to expand...

So you're very wary of the GOP lineup this go around I bet...
 
sangha said:
Tes Cruz? You mean the guy who said that SCOTUS *not* taking a case was judicial activism? :lamo
Click to expand...

inaction is action, grasshopper...
 
She is clearly native american. Lol
 
sangha said:
War is Peace, Winston
Click to expand...

:lol:

That was a good one, really, it was, I got a chuckle.

“One who sees inaction in action, and action in inaction, is intelligent among men, and he is in the transcendental position, although engaged in all sorts of activities.” (Bhagavad Gita 4.18)

I guess we'll just have to wait while you *cough* assume the position...;)
 
Fenton said:
She's a hack and a Lo-info magnet.

She sucks in all of the hard core ideologues on the left with her " Too Big to Fail " rhetoric and ignores the REAL criminals that led to the 2008 Subprime mortgage crisis.
Click to expand...


She is boring and very clearly informed about many issues. If there is any politician who is popular among the more informed, but largely unknown among the uninformed, it is her. Where do conservatives even get this stuff?

As far as the question in the OP, of course she is. Every human in the world is. However, I think what telekat said is accurate. The moment you accept being part of either major party, you can't help but sell your soul to the corporate and special interests that have the money to make you a major national player in our political culture. If you are an honest and principled person, you would never win reelection, because the chamber of commerce (or some similar organization), will dump 40 million into your race to make sure you lose. You need to be a corporate lap dog or you fade into irrelevancy. That is why Obama and Hillary will do well, they put principle behind ambition at every step of the way, so they have no problems selling out to corporate and special interests.
 
Fenton said:
Oh please, what do YOU know about the Subprime mortgage crisis ?

All I've ever seen you post on this issue is same regurgitated let wing talking points that have been debunked again and again on this very site.

Ill give you some advice, if you DON'T know what you're talking about, then keep your mouth shut.

Especially on this issue.

You realize Clinton was the source of most of the "deregulation " that led to the Crisis becoming so systemic.

From the GSEs to CDSs.
Click to expand...


What do you know? I know that Elizabeth Warren knows quite a lot, I can't speak for this NIMBY fellow though.
 
TurtleDude said:
socialist control freaks who appeal to low wattage minions are dangerous NIMBY.
Click to expand...


Anyone who believes socialism is a problem in America can never insult the intelligence of others. We have no socialists in American mainstream politics. The socialists that do exist are wholly marginalized. We have only capitalist puppets who support gay marriage and want to kill Arabs covertly in order to maintain control over their oil resources vs capitalist puppets who don't like gay marriage and don't care about how we kill Arabs just as long as we do so.
 
frodly said:
anyone who believes socialism is a problem in america can never insult the intelligence of others. We have no socialists in american mainstream politics. The socialists that do exist are wholly marginalized. We have only capitalist puppets who support gay marriage and want to kill arabs covertly in order to maintain control over their oil resources vs capitalist puppets who don't like gay marriage and don't care about how we kill arabs just as long as we do so.
Click to expand...


man overboard !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Frodly said:
Anyone who believes socialism is a problem in America can never insult the intelligence of others. We have no socialists in American mainstream politics. The socialists that do exist are wholly marginalized. We have only capitalist puppets who support gay marriage and want to kill Arabs covertly in order to maintain control over their oil resources vs capitalist puppets who don't like gay marriage and don't care about how we kill Arabs just as long as we do so.
Click to expand...

psychobabble noted and rejected.
 
Frodly said:
Anyone who believes socialism is a problem in America can never insult the intelligence of others. We have no socialists in American mainstream politics. The socialists that do exist are wholly marginalized. We have only capitalist puppets who support gay marriage and want to kill Arabs covertly in order to maintain control over their oil resources vs capitalist puppets who don't like gay marriage and don't care about how we kill Arabs just as long as we do so.
Click to expand...

I mostly agree although Bernie Sanders is a socialist. Democrats have moved so far to the right that it's hard to even call them left wing.
 
TurtleDude said:
psychobabble noted and rejected.
Click to expand...


Do you know what psychobabble implies? That I am using the jargon of psychology to create a facade of understanding, but really have no understanding of the human mind or human behavior at all. I did no such thing. I simply explained the absurd inaccuracy of your post. There are no socialists in American politics and you only believe there are because you fundamentally misunderstand both capitalism and socialism.
 
Frodly said:
Do you know what psychobabble implies? That I am using the jargon of psychology to create a facade of understanding, but really have no understanding of the human mind or human behavior at all. I did no such thing. I simply explained the absurd inaccuracy of your post. There are no socialists in American politics and you only believe there are because you fundamentally misunderstand both capitalism and socialism.
Click to expand...

socialism is a disease and the main issue is how infected a given individual is
 
Frodly said:
What do you know? I know that Elizabeth Warren knows quite a lot, I can't speak for this NIMBY fellow though.
Click to expand...



She knows enough to pull the wool over the eyes of her supporters, which isn't saying much.

People that are easily manipulated, easily influenced and short on the facts SO FAR seem to be her primary supporters.

She's a liar, and as corrupt as they come.
 
TurtleDude said:
socialism is a disease and the main issue is how infected a given individual is
Click to expand...


I remember now why I rarely contribute at these forums. It is because the level of discourse rarely rises above "Ahhhhhhhhh Socialism!!!!!" :2mad: :2mad: There are no socialists in mainstream American politics. This is a fact. If you do not understand this fact, you should stop freely giving out your opinion until this fact has sunk in.
 
Fenton said:
She knows enough to pull the wool over the eyes of her supporters, which isn't saying much.

People that are easily manipulated, easily influenced and short on the facts SO FAR seem to be her primary supporters.

She's a liar, and as corrupt as they come.
Click to expand...


Cool story bro!! Do you care to add even the smallest amount of substance to your post? Like possibly providing an example of her being misinformed and your explanation for why it is misinformed. This place is called debate politics. Not random dude on the internet says stuff without facts, context, or argument forum. That is of no interest to anyone. No one cares about your opinion of her. At least not unless you can make a coherent and informed argument to back up that opinion.
 
Bigfoot 88 said:
Elizabeth Warren is known to be an opponent of awarding special privileges to corporations through the government. However, she supports the Export-Import bank, which largely serves to provide special privileges to corporations.

Is she a hypocrite?
Click to expand...

Along with favoring regulations written by corporate lobbyists only big business can afford to comely with; and raising the minimum wage so no middle class american can afford to employ anyone and compete with bigger businesses and increase their wealth- I would say yes she is an economically illiterate hypocrite.
 
NIMBY said:
The export-import bank serves to help small businesses survive in Illinois and our common-sense GOPs know it.
The premise of this OP is a false-equivalency lie supported by extreme TEA-partiers like Norquist .
Click to expand...

The EIB is a needed source of finance for small businesses, and also for large businesses that have a business model that doesn't fit the criteria of commercial banks. One thing most people don't realize, is that companies have to exhaust all commercial options before the EIB will get involved.

The GOP rants against the EIB are ludicrous, as are the assertions that it's some kind of corporate welfare from some on the left. The EIB is one of the only parts of the federal government that has not only covered the costs of its existence, but is revenue positive - which if it wasn't part of the government would be called a profit. And, as I said before in other words, the EIB is not taking any money out of the private sector banking system, because they only get involved when all other commercial options fail to provide the needed financing.

Together with US State Department programs to assist US companies with import requirements in foreign countries, the EIB has created jobs, stimulated local US economies and helped to build this country in an every growing global economy.

As a fiscal conservative, the EIB makes more than just fiscal sense, it is good sound government to stimulate job growth and the economy.
 
I give her credit for at least calling attention to important problems in the financial sector. Who else is doing so?
 
Thank you B--I miss talking with you--a common sense GOP who doesn't run from his brand.
I've seen you get lit up by far righties for this kind of post--not towing their line--yet they deny who they vote for.

I can only go by what my friends who are small businessmen tell me--you have made an excellent case I could never make for the EIB.
These anti-people are just blinded by their feelings against Sen. Warren .

Beaudreaux said:
The EIB is a needed source of finance for small businesses, and also for large businesses that have a business model that doesn't fit the criteria of commercial banks. One thing most people don't realize, is that companies have to exhaust all commercial options before the EIB will get involved.

The GOP rants against the EIB are ludicrous, as are the assertions that it's some kind of corporate welfare from some on the left. The EIB is one of the only parts of the federal government that has not only covered the costs of its existence, but is revenue positive - which if it wasn't part of the government would be called a profit. And, as I said before in other words, the EIB is not taking any money out of the private sector banking system, because they only get involved when all other commercial options fail to provide the needed financing.

Together with US State Department programs to assist US companies with import requirements in foreign countries, the EIB has created jobs, stimulated local US economies and helped to build this country in an every growing global economy.

As a fiscal conservative, the EIB makes more than just fiscal sense, it is good sound government to stimulate job growth and the economy.
Click to expand...
 
TurtleDude said:
socialism is a disease and the main issue is how infected a given individual is
Click to expand...

The economic disaster awaiting this Nation in the next few decades caused by this
2nd 30-year Gilded age will make the first depression look like happy days are here again.

And it will begin with the overexposure of public pensions and insurance companies .
 
NIMBY said:
Thank you B--I miss talking with you--a common sense GOP who doesn't run from his brand.
I've seen you get lit up by far righties for this kind of post--not towing their line--yet they deny who they vote for.

I can only go by what my friends who are small businessmen tell me--you have made an excellent case I could never make for the EIB.
These anti-people are just blinded by their feelings against Sen. Warren .
Click to expand...

I'm not a Warren fan, by any means. But, using her reported support for the EIB to attack her from the right is ridiculous, and just makes people in the GOP who are supposed to be fiscal conservatives look childish at best, and totally ignorant at worst.

Thanks for the kind words, BTW.
 
Bigfoot 88 said:
Elizabeth Warren is known to be an opponent of awarding special privileges to corporations through the government. However, she supports the Export-Import bank, which largely serves to provide special privileges to corporations.

Is she a hypocrite?
Click to expand...

Yes she is, and this is a very good example why I feel that way about her.

The other hypocrisy she holds and will manifest itself over time is her "consumer protection" views that she managed to get rammed through. The consumers have no idea what kind of negative impact that will all have on their lives over time.
 
NIMBY said:
I'll listen to the small businessmen in Illinois who are GOPs and want the export/import bank.
Problem is, they keep voting against their interests and they know it.

Especially my friends who are GOP small businessmen being ****ed by the Elites and TEAts in their own party.
I'm a serious poster and listen to both sides--try it some time .
Click to expand...

Don't make me laugh. You are one of the biggest partisan hacks on this site. Virtually every one of your posts does nothing but attack the right no matter the topic of the thread while I have never seen you say a single negative thing about the left.
No one is going to believe the crap you are pushing.
 
Frodly said:
Cool story bro!! Do you care to add even the smallest amount of substance to your post? Like possibly providing an example of her being misinformed and your explanation for why it is misinformed. This place is called debate politics. Not random dude on the internet says stuff without facts, context, or argument forum. That is of no interest to anyone. No one cares about your opinion of her. At least not unless you can make a coherent and informed argument to back up that opinion.
Click to expand...

She's not " misinformed", her supporters are misinformed.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom