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2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

What will you do?

  • Not vote

    Votes: 5 4.9%

  • Vote for Clinton

    Votes: 33 32.4%

  • Vote for Bush

    Votes: 28 27.5%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 3.9%

  • Other

    Votes: 32 31.4%
  • Total voters
    102
doniston said:
we might have had that third party if Perot had taken a back seat and turned the reins over to another qualified person, His personality literally stopped the party from success. of course, that is just MY personal opinion I was sorry that the party failed.
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In a way you are right. It was definitely a top down organization. But we were doing alright until 2000 when Pat Buchanan hijacked the Reform Party and its ballot access. Buchanan was a sly one.
 
Here's hoping both parties will have a better choice than these two. Don't the American people deserve better? There's no way I would support HIllary Clinton as I don't agree with her ideology and I am tired of what the Republican elites keep parading out. I held my nose to vote for the "compassionate conservative" twice. I held my nose to vote for the maverick McCain, I held my nose to pull the lever for Mitt Romney. I don't think I have it in me to hold my nose and vote for another Bush. I don't support Common Core, I don't support his immigration policies. I don't support his love for big government solutions. Either they cough up another choice or once again they will find themselves losing because their base will leave them. In fact, if the Republican party elites don't get their sh*t together and return to the core principles of their party this next presidential election cycle, I'm willing to bet the party will split.
 
vesper said:
Here's hoping both parties will have a better choice than these two. Don't the American people deserve better? There's no way I would support HIllary Clinton as I don't agree with her ideology and I am tired of what the Republican elites keep parading out. I held my nose to vote for the "compassionate conservative" twice. I held my nose to vote for the maverick McCain, I held my nose to pull the lever for Mitt Romney. I don't think I have it in me to hold my nose and vote for another Bush. I don't support Common Core, I don't support his immigration policies. I don't support his love for big government solutions. Either they cough up another choice or once again they will find themselves losing because their base will leave them. In fact, if the Republican party elites don't get their sh*t together and return to the core principles of their party this next presidential election cycle, I'm willing to bet the party will split.
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Both parties are wide open, so people have a chance to choose better in the primaries.
 
radcen said:
Both parties are wide open, so people have a chance to choose better in the primaries.
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I hope you are right radcen, because this scenario presented is a nightmare.
 
I am a politically independent person and vote for the person whom I think is best suited for the job, regardless of their party affiliation. Therefore, in your poll pitting Bush against Clinton, I will offer this:

First of all, my choices would be Mitt Romney, then Jeb Bush, and if no other suitable Republican Candidate would appear, I would vote for Hilary Clinton.( I didn't include any other potential Demo Candidates because i think HiIlary is a forgone conclusion), and in reality, Unless Rhan Paul declines to run as third party, I believe Hilary will be the next President. She is in"MY" third place because of her poor showing during her initiation as First lady, and apparently failed attempt to operate as co-president. Her Health package trial was an absolute disaster. Still, I hope that her politics have matured sufficiently hat she could take on the office of the Presidency.

I, for one, do not believe that the president needs to have all the answers but should take on the job in similar manner as CEO, or Chairperson of the Board. (This seldom occurs with the very notable exception of Ronald Reagan, who in his first term personified that image. Thus, IN MY OPINION, while the parties past exploits are important, they take a back seat to the parties management skills.
 
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Perotista said:
In a way you are right. It was definitely a top down organization. But we were doing alright until 2000 when Pat Buchanan hijacked the Reform Party and its ballot access. Buchanan was a sly one.
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Just out of curiosity, regarding your signature, Do you agree with the gerrymandering bit? I don't, i believe the gerrymandering which already exists is the most serious problem we have with the election system.
 
doniston said:
Just out of curiosity, regarding your signature, Do you agree with the gerrymandering bit? I don't, i believe the gerrymandering which already exists is the most serious problem we have with the election system.
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Oh yes I do. Because of gerrymandering we, the electorate, the people do not choose our representatives, they choose the voters. We are suppose to be choosing them, not the other way around. I agree, gerrymandering should be illegal, done away with. But as long as it benefits both parties, it will stay.
 
Perotista said:
Oh yes I do. Because of gerrymandering we, the electorate, the people do not choose our representatives, they choose the voters. We are suppose to be choosing them, not the other way around. I agree, gerrymandering should be illegal, done away with. But as long as it benefits both parties, it will stay.
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I hate to tell you this, but the reason I asked is that the way that signature is worded, I though you were "for" gerrymandering.(as presently practiced) sorry, but that's the way I read it.
 
Unfortunately, If I was in this scenario, I would vote for Clinton then go drink a **** ton of Whiskey afterwards to ease the pain.
 
doniston said:
I hate to tell you this, but the reason I asked is that the way that signature is worded, I though you were "for" gerrymandering.(as presently practiced) sorry, but that's the way I read it.
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No problem. There is something inherently evil when our elected officials can decide, pick and choose which voters they are going to allow to vote in their district. Gerrymandering is nothing more than jury rigging an election. Legal jury rigging.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Unfortunately, If I was in this scenario, I would vote for Clinton then go drink a **** ton of Whiskey afterwards to ease the pain.
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You must feel this way every time you vote.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Unfortunately, If I was in this scenario, I would vote for Clinton then go drink a **** ton of Whiskey afterwards to ease the pain.
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I think Bill did the same thing after waking up next to her each morning:mrgreen:
 
Nightrider said:
Love Gary Johnson - don't think he can win. I have a better chance, I think, of making it to Finland than Gary Johnson has of making it into the White House. In a few years, I may just choose Finland - IF my finances are in order.



I've voted 3rd party before and advocated for those candidates. I can practically hear crickets chirping in the background, while I preach on my soapbox, lol. So, Finland, here I come.
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Interesting that a libertarian would consider Finland a mecca.....

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TheDemSocialist said:
:shrug: good point.... But in 2014 im pretty pumped for the Governors race in KS
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who are your choices and what are the polls saying

Kasich is gonna destroy the Dem in Ohio. Last time it was competitive-I thought Ted Strickland might retain his seat over "Kave in Kasich" but Kasich has done a good job and the Dem has run a campaign that was John Edwards level incompetent
 
TurtleDude said:
who are your choices and what are the polls saying

Kasich is gonna destroy the Dem in Ohio. Last time it was competitive-I thought Ted Strickland might retain his seat over "Kave in Kasich" but Kasich has done a good job and the Dem has run a campaign that was John Edwards level incompetent
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Davis (D) is up by 5% against the super conservative Brownback (R)
 
In that case, I would have to say Clinton with what I know of them right now. I will do more studying when I find out the canidates and I have to see what issues are seeming to be facing the nation as well.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Between those two I would have to go 3rd party. I could not in good conscience vote for another Bush or another Clinton.
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Don't you think you would just be wasting your vote? I would not be thrilled with those candidates either but I would vote for one or the other. I just dont see a 3rd party having a chance even if they are the better candidate.
 
Van Basten said:
Jeb was the last Florida Governor worth remembering in recent times, but I wouldn't give him my vote come 2016. We already rode that train.
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I honestly don't know a lot about Jeb Bush but would be willing to listen to what he has to say if he does run. People say that Bush 1 and 2 were poor Presidents but they both were leaders. Did they make bad decisions sometimes? Sure they did but at least they made them. I don't think we need another 4 years of Obama which would be what we get if Hillary does run. I'd rather take my chances with Bush if thats the best we got out there.
 
Unrepresented said:
While I'm not a fan of dynasties and nepotism, I feel Clinton is even more prepared to lead the nation than she was eight years ago, while the nation is still not strong enough to handle another Bush presidency.
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Are you kidding? Clinton has zero leadership skills, and less personality than a lump of ****. She ain't no Slick Willie, and she can't speak. She's a droner at the microphone. Look at her resume for crying out loud for once! If it weren't for Bill Clinton, she would be nobody. You know what's worse than someone who votes for a (D) behind a name? Someone that votes for someone with zero skills for the job with a (D) behind their name.
 
mperry said:
Don't you think you would just be wasting your vote?
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Nooooooo!!!!!!!!!


That's the damn problem with this country. People think any vote not for a D or an R is a "wasted vote".

That's complete drivel and manipulative brainwashing bullsh!t that causes this country to constantly ping-pong back and forth between crooked liars, and lying crooks.

You are part of the problem, not part of the solution when you suggest such things.

Please stop it. For the good of the country, please stop it.
 
American said:
Are you kidding? Clinton has zero leadership skills, and less personality than a lump of ****. She ain't no Slick Willie, and she can't speak. She's a droner at the microphone. Look at her resume for crying out loud for once! If it weren't for Bill Clinton, she would be nobody. You know what's worse than someone who votes for a (D) behind a name? Someone that votes for someone with zero skills for the job with a (D) behind their name.
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Which is why you and rest of the rightists keep attacking her 24/7.
She scares the daylights out of you and this moronic nonsense only pushes people further away from you .
 
NIMBY said:
Which is why you and rest of the rightists keep attacking her 24/7.
She scares the daylights out of you and this moronic nonsense only pushes people further away from you .
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That's right, she's an incompetent boob who has no business whatsoever in the White House. Only morons and America haters will vote for her.
 
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