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2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

What will you do?

  • Not vote

    Votes: 5 4.9%
  • Vote for Clinton

    Votes: 33 32.4%
  • Vote for Bush

    Votes: 28 27.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 3.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 32 31.4%

  • Total voters
    102
good for you, I am in the same boat,,--mostly, I want to see a third party but it needs to be one that can win, otherwise the best i Can do is vote for the better person. not just wait for a third party.

The third party that can win, will be the third party that American independents actually vote for.
 
True, but you get the government you vote for. I usually get the government I don't vote for, but at least I fought with the one weapon I have at my disposal.
That's a bebe gun against an elephant, and the real problem too many people feel like you, and so nothing gets accomplished, what we need to do is galvanize the whole of the Independent movement to come up with one candidate instead of several wanabes that will never make it beyond their own office. for instance all spliter parties nominate and support the presidential candidate of the green party, or----- ?? The heads of all these splinters should come up with their own primary and nominate one person to run against the two other party cantidtes. then a third part wouked have a chance,

I AM NOT KIDDIND If any of you see value in this idea Let's get together and get start organizing and contacting all the people who would be interesred in startin political action movement based on a new third party
 
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That's a bebe gun against an elephant, and the real problem too many people feel like you, and so nothing gets accomplished, what we need to do is galvanize the whole of the Independent movement to come up with one candidate instead of several wanabes that will never make it beyond their own office. for instance all spliter parties nominate and support the presidential candidate of the green party, or----- ?? The heads of all these splinters should come up with their own primary and nominate one person to run against the two other party cantidtes. then a third part wouked have a chance,

I AM NOT KIDDIND If any of you see value in this idea Let's get together and get start organizing and contacting all the people who would be interesred in startin political action movement based on a new third party






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True. However, why would I vote for someone I disagree with?
 
True. However, why would I vote for someone I disagree with?
if you don't believe my reasoning is sound, then you shouldn't. but sometimes we have to look for a happy medium, and to me the happy medium is a third party. rather than someone else in a major party that you also don't agree with.
 
if you don't believe my reasoning is sound, then you shouldn't. but sometimes we have to look for a happy medium, and to me the happy medium is a third party. rather than someone else in a major party that you also don't agree with.

Aren't you the one who was saying he'd vote Republican so his vote "counted?"

I agree with not voting for a major party candidate if you don't like them.
 
Aren't you the one who was saying he'd vote Republican so his vote "counted?"
I agree with not voting for a major party candidate if you don't like them.
I don't know where you go that, I said I wold vote for the better person rather than to waste my vote. my present choices are (subject to change)

1. Mitt Romney
2. Jeb Bush,
3. If there is no better choice coming out, reluctently I may vote for Hilary

By far, I would prefer to vote for Mitt and most especially as a third party candidate.
 
I'm not all that keen on Jeb Bush, but if it's between him and Hillary, I'll go with Bush.

We don't need another left-wing, incompetent loon in the White House, much less a Ringling Bros. Barnum and Bailey Circus cellulite blubber-wench.
 
The third party that can win, will be the third party that American independents actually vote for.
Right, (tho I hope the Amer Ind you are speaking of are generic, and not the party). that won't help unless most of he fringe groups join together and vote for one chosen candidate.
 
Bush. And if you refuse to vote, then please stop bitching.

I think 3rd party voters throw their vote away but at least they vote. Not voting is the epitome of a fence sitting ***** that just wants to complain no matter the outcome
 
Bush. And if you refuse to vote, then please stop bitching.

I think 3rd party voters throw their vote away but at least they vote. Not voting is the epitome of a fence sitting ***** that just wants to complain no matter the outcome

Stop. I have a right to not vote and still complain.

Just for the record, I've voted in every election over the past 20 years (basically, since I was first eligible to vote).

A fence sitting *****? LOL - I know lots of true Patriots whom would disagree with you on that one (many are in my immediate family).

But it doesn't matter - if things continue the way they are, I may just move to Finland and enjoy life. No, I won't bitch - I'll be having too much fun! ;)
 
All a 3rd party does is screw things up........They have zerro chance of electing their candidate.

And thats what I mean by a wasted vote. Either a wasted vore or you helped get the wrong person for the job elected.
 
Wow, after my vote it was:
5 : no votes
33: Clinton
33: Bush
5: undecided
33: other.

Talk about close. If the demographics at DP are any reflection of reality, it should be interesting.

If there was an independent candidate with mass appeal... hmm
 
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Wow, after my vote it was:
5 : no votes
33: Clinton
33: Bush
5: undecided
33: other.

Talk about close. If the demographics at DP are any reflection of reality, it should be interesting.

If there was an independent candidate with mass appeal... hmm

From multiple years of experience, it doesn't.

No online political foru mis going to be a good indication of reality in normal demographics. Those heavily involved in politics enough to actually go onto a website and spend significant time discussing it are likely going to include a far larger percentage of people being open to the notion of voting third party comparitive to the general public.
 
From multiple years of experience, it doesn't.

No online political foru mis going to be a good indication of reality in normal demographics. Those heavily involved in politics enough to actually go onto a website and spend significant time discussing it are likely going to include a far larger percentage of people being open to the notion of voting third party comparitive to the general public.

A better idea of where the nation stands is Gallup's Party Affiliation/identification poll which they usually do once a month. As of 30 September here is where the nation stands as far as party affiliation.

Republican 26%
Democrat 30%
Independent 42%
Independent lean Republican 18%
Independent lean Democrat 18%
true Independent 6%
Third Party 2%

So in a general election if the Democrats get their people to the polls they have a distinct advantage. That is nationwide. Now each state varies and I do not have the figures on a state by state basis.
 
Wow, after my vote it was:
5 : no votes
33: Clinton
33: Bush
5: undecided
33: other.

Talk about close. If the demographics at DP are any reflection of reality, it should be interesting.

If there was an independent candidate with mass appeal... hmm

There is too much for an independent candidate to overcome. The election laws of this country are written by Republicans and Democrats as a mutual protection act. They are written to keep third parties and independents off the ballot and have been strengthen since Perot's run. Secondly is financial, all the money coming in from corporations, Wall Street, Lobbyist, Special Interests etc. goes to the two major parties. They will not donate to third parties. So not only would an independent have to overcome the present election laws just to get on the ballot, he would have to be independently wealthy and willing to spend close to a billion dollars or more of his own money.

In 2012 Obama spent a billion dollars to get elected, Romney spent a billion dollars to challenge him, in third place was Gary Johnson who spent almost 3 million. Being outspent 2 billion to 2 million, Johnson didn't have a chance to even get his message heard. I voted for Gary.
 
I think Jeb Bush isn't a really republican.
 
I'd vote for my wife.
 
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