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Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

Is there such a thing as White Privilege?

  • Yes

    Votes: 50 59.5%
  • No

    Votes: 34 40.5%

  • Total voters
    84
And if you believe that then where is all the WHITE privilege?

I'll let others speak for a moment:

The concept of white privilege – with roots in the 19th century, a resurgence in 1980s feminist scholarship and now making a mainstream splash – doesn’t point fingers at white supremacy or racist acts, but at structural and historical problems in society. White privilege is about the way white people are treated, generally favorably, regardless of what is in their hearts and minds.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news...-privilege-experience-attention-and-criticism

The Origins of “Privilege” - The New Yorker

http://www.buzzfeed.com/michaelblackmon/17-harrowing-examples-of-white-privilege-9hu9
 
I'm from Los Angeles. Please tell me exactly this place is? I never heard any of my white friends say that they were pulled over because they were white.

Especially by the LAPD !!!!

LOL. Yeah, so an LAPD officer is going to tell someone, "I'm stopping you because you are white". The topic of the OP is a question about "white privilege" not about the habits of the LAPD. There are areas in Southern California where being white is not a privilege, but could be a serious problem. Since you claim to be from Los Angeles, you know very well where those areas are.
 
White privilege is a myth. Asians do better economically and educationally than white people yet you dont hear "asian privilege"

Its basically black people that made that up and liberals parrot it.

Yes, if you are black, you are more likely to have a negative encounter with police than any other race.

Here is the deal. Black people are victims not to white privilege, but to the consequences of a disproportionate amount if black misbehavior.

There is so much criminal behavior occurring in black areas police naturally become more suspect of black people.

So two guys are walking down the street, one white, one black. Neither are criminals.

First off, neither are likely to be harrassed but the black guy is more likely to be than the white guy?

Why? Is it because cops are racist? Or because 85 pct of the guys the cop arrested were black.

You ask what came first the chicken or the egg? I dont know,

But i can tell you as a fed, 90 pct of my suspects end up being black. Mind you i have no clue who these peope are ir anything else about them when i show up to begin my investigation.

I go where the evidence leads me. And i mostly investigate white collar crime.

Now the question is how can we reduce crime in the black communities?

Thats above my paygrade
 
White privilege is a myth. Asians do better economically and educationally than white people yet you dont hear "asian privilege"

Its basically black people that made that up and liberals parrot it.

Yes, if you are black, you are more likely to have a negative encounter with police than any other race.

Here is the deal. Black people are victims not to white privilege, but to the consequences of a disproportionate amount if black misbehavior.

There is so much criminal behavior occurring in black areas police naturally become more suspect of black people.

So two guys are walking down the street, one white, one black. Neither are criminals.

First off, neither are likely to be harrassed but the black guy is more likely to be than the white guy?

Why? Is it because cops are racist? Or because 85 pct of the guys the cop arrested were black.

You ask what came first the chicken or the egg? I dont know,

But i can tell you as a fed, 90 pct of my suspects end up being black. Mind you i have no clue who these peope are ir anything else about them when i show up to begin my investigation.

I go where the evidence leads me. And i mostly investigate white collar crime.

Now the question is how can we reduce crime in the black communities?

Thats above my paygrade

Whites have an edge. But, the liberals enabling horrible black behaviour, from encouraging out of wedlock births to excusing that many (most?) of them do not speak proper English or achieve reasonable educational goals, is the main reason the black community is such a mess, IMO. For those who are held to low expectations, poor attainment is achieved. Common sense.
 
White privilege is a myth. Asians do better economically and educationally than white people yet you dont hear "asian privilege"

Its basically black people that made that up and liberals parrot it.

Yes, if you are black, you are more likely to have a negative encounter with police than any other race.

Here is the deal. Black people are victims not to white privilege, but to the consequences of a disproportionate amount if black misbehavior.

There is so much criminal behavior occurring in black areas police naturally become more suspect of black people.

So two guys are walking down the street, one white, one black. Neither are criminals.

First off, neither are likely to be harrassed but the black guy is more likely to be than the white guy?

Why? Is it because cops are racist? Or because 85 pct of the guys the cop arrested were black.

You ask what came first the chicken or the egg? I dont know,

But i can tell you as a fed, 90 pct of my suspects end up being black. Mind you i have no clue who these peope are ir anything else about them when i show up to begin my investigation.

I go where the evidence leads me. And i mostly investigate white collar crime.

Now the question is how can we reduce crime in the black communities?

Thats above my paygrade

Most Asians in America come from well educated households from east Asia ... it's the middle and upper classes that send their kids to America to study, or come here to work.
 
I dont think there is any white privilege. There is a rich privilege. Most people fail to realize the difference.

I'd also suggest another .... political priviledge from politicians, which at some point intersects and includes the rich.
 
I'd also suggest another .... political priviledge from politicians, which at some point intersects and includes the rich.

I agree. Political privilege certainly would be included in that. Especially since politicians are the rich, and their strings are pulled by the rich.
 
I dont think there is any white privilege. There is a rich privilege. Most people fail to realize the difference.

With all due respect, I believed this way and I could have been quoted the same thing you said verbatim because I didn't understand what white privilege is. If you'll allow, let me give you an example that may make it clearer for you.

Thuc Chen comes from a wealthy Vietnamese family who made a fortune bottling and selling a hot sauce recipe they brought to America from their remote village in their native country. She's grown up her entire life in the San Fernando Valley in California and has a business degree from UCLA. She plays tennis, loves shopping and her favorite show is Gossip Girl. She is a SoCal girl through and through.

Derek Murray has just arrived from a remote village called Swtragh in Northern Ireland. It lies about 120 miles north of the town of Maghera. He has a charming gaelic accent that sometimes makes him hard to understand, especially when he is excited. He has a similar business degree as Thuc's from a prominent university which put him in debt with student loans; his parents were poor and could not afford to pay for his education. He never had television growing up and he isn't much for keeping with current events. He'd rather be out playing football than indoors when he has spare time.

Joe is a hiring manager at a hip PR firm. He has a position open for an accounts supervisor. The requirements for the position are that candidate holds a business degree, has excellent communication skills, and can interact engagingly with clients in the media industry. Joe receives two resumes: one with the name Thuc Chen at the top and the other headlined Derek Murray.

Which do you think Joe is going to give immediate attention considering his requirements for the job?
 
With all due respect, I believed this way and I could have been quoted the same thing you said verbatim because I didn't understand what white privilege is. If you'll allow, let me give you an example that may make it clearer for you.

Thuc Chen comes from a wealthy Vietnamese family who made a fortune bottling and selling a hot sauce recipe they brought to America from their remote village in their native country. She's grown up her entire life in the San Fernando Valley in California and has a business degree from UCLA. She plays tennis, loves shopping and her favorite show is Gossip Girl. She is a SoCal girl through and through.

Derek Murray has just arrived from a remote village called Swtragh in Northern Ireland. It lies about 120 miles north of the town of Maghera. He has a charming gaelic accent that sometimes makes him hard to understand, especially when he is excited. He has a similar business degree as Thuc's from a prominent university which put him in debt with student loans; his parents were poor and could not afford to pay for his education. He never had television growing up and he isn't much for keeping with current events. He'd rather be out playing football than indoors when he has spare time.

Joe is a hiring manager at a hip PR firm. He has a position open for an accounts supervisor. The requirements for the position are that candidate holds a business degree, has excellent communication skills, and can interact engagingly with clients in the media industry. Joe receives two resumes: one with the name Thuc Chen at the top and the other headlined Derek Murray.

Which do you think Joe is going to give immediate attention considering his requirements for the job?

I see what you are trying to do but tell me, if he simply has a resume, how does he know derek isnt black? Oops.
 
Most Asians in America come from well educated households from east Asia ... it's the middle and upper classes that send their kids to America to study, or come here to work.

I see, this has become the token defense of the left. So? If there is white privilege those white kids would be doing better socioeconomically as they entered the work force. But it aint so.

The truth is that if both white and asian families put a higher priority on education and maintain the family unit, its no wonder they do better.
 
based off your question, definition and the simplistic yes or no framing theres only one answer and that answer is yes, there is.
now having said that it is a much deeper conversation than that but yes the fact is it exists in a form, the form can be honestly debated but not the existence.

im sticking with my original comment above

nothing in this thread so far as even logically hinted it doesnt "exist"
and there certainly isnt any accurate or factual based logic that says it doesnt
 
im sticking with my original comment above

nothing in this thread so far as even logically hinted it doesnt "exist"
and there certainly isnt any accurate or factual based logic that says it doesnt

Where is the accurate factual based logic that says it does?
 
I see what you are trying to do but tell me, if he simply has a resume, how does he know derek isnt black? Oops.

There is no "oops" on my part. Even if "Derek" is black, when held up to another name like Thuc Chen, there is an assumption of an Anglo centric education and experience that comes with Derek's name alone.

The concept of "white privilege" does not carry an accusation nor a judgment against white people or culture. It is simply an assessment of the difference between the cultural experiences of whites and non whites and how being white in an anglo centric culture will carry certain benefits and privileges that those who are obviously not white will not enjoy. It's no different than saying there is minority privilege as well in this country. It's just two sides of the same coin.

And all I am trying to do is explain the concept with examples because it appears people are getting stuck on the denotations of "white" and "privilege" and not the contextual definition of the phrase "white privilege". The only "oops" in all of this is your failure to understand the content to which you were replying with much unneeded snark and passive aggression rather than engaging an informative dialog. I will leave you to all that.
 
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And you are erroneously hung up on the belief that white privilege is real, it isnt.

What if the business owner is asian?

Not to mention that unlike what you may desperately want to believe the manager recognizes accomplishments of one candidate over the other. Maybe he interviews derek because he assumes thuc may not speak english as well. I woudnt blame him. If im a busy manager, im trying to make my job as simple as i can.

To liberals its always gotta be because he is white. Good luck with that
 
And further more, its OBVIOUS that the hiring managers have been interviewing more asians than whites because they as a group are doing better economically. This cannot be disputed, it is a simple fact that the left is ignoring
 
let's try some statistics:

Percent of recipients who are white 38.8 %
Percent of recipients who are black 39.8 %

Welfare Statistics | Statistic Brain

Considering the advantage whites have, shockingly close.

Not sure what younare trying to prove here. Blacks make up 13pct of the populous. Wouldnt your statement indicate they should be 13 pct of benefactors
 
And you are erroneously hung up on the belief that white privilege is real, it isnt.

What if the business owner is asian?

Not to mention that unlike what you may desperately want to believe the manager recognizes accomplishments of one candidate over the other. Maybe he interviews derek because he assumes thuc may not speak english as well. I woudnt blame him. If im a busy manager, im trying to make my job as simple as i can.

To liberals its always gotta be because he is white. Good luck with that

It's ironic that the more people try and give examples of white privilege not existing the more I'm convinced it's:

1) present
2) those claiming it isn't are not particularly objective.
 
With all due respect, I believed this way and I could have been quoted the same thing you said verbatim because I didn't understand what white privilege is. If you'll allow, let me give you an example that may make it clearer for you.

Thuc Chen comes from a wealthy Vietnamese family who made a fortune bottling and selling a hot sauce recipe they brought to America from their remote village in their native country. She's grown up her entire life in the San Fernando Valley in California and has a business degree from UCLA. She plays tennis, loves shopping and her favorite show is Gossip Girl. She is a SoCal girl through and through.

Derek Murray has just arrived from a remote village called Swtragh in Northern Ireland. It lies about 120 miles north of the town of Maghera. He has a charming gaelic accent that sometimes makes him hard to understand, especially when he is excited. He has a similar business degree as Thuc's from a prominent university which put him in debt with student loans; his parents were poor and could not afford to pay for his education. He never had television growing up and he isn't much for keeping with current events. He'd rather be out playing football than indoors when he has spare time.

Joe is a hiring manager at a hip PR firm. He has a position open for an accounts supervisor. The requirements for the position are that candidate holds a business degree, has excellent communication skills, and can interact engagingly with clients in the media industry. Joe receives two resumes: one with the name Thuc Chen at the top and the other headlined Derek Murray.

Which do you think Joe is going to give immediate attention considering his requirements for the job?

Loaded example... any hiring manager will look at both resume's with interest and you are assuming bias based off of race/names/etc.

White privilege is an excuse that people have come up with to find fault at their own failures or shortcomings.

I took a class on this and lasted about 10 minutes until it was clear that it was an exercise in racism and was getting screamed at by two clack women in the class for not agreeing with the premise.
 
It's ironic that the more people try and give examples of white privilege not existing the more I'm convinced it's:

1) present
2) those claiming it isn't are not particularly objective.

White privilege is a nice way of saying institutionalized racism... it is a PC scam.
 
There is a "rich" privilege and that extends to all races...
 
And you are erroneously hung up on the belief that white privilege is real, it isnt.

What if the business owner is asian?

Not to mention that unlike what you may desperately want to believe the manager recognizes accomplishments of one candidate over the other. Maybe he interviews derek because he assumes thuc may not speak english as well. I woudnt blame him. If im a busy manager, im trying to make my job as simple as i can.

To liberals its always gotta be because he is white. Good luck with that

First off, I'm not a liberal so can it with your assumptions about me. Second, there is no desperation in my explanation but there certainly is a lot of overly excited utterance and unneeded pissiness in your responses. If you can't continue in a civil tone, we won't be continuing at all as your level of education on the topic that you are commenting nor your obvious ignorance on the same are of no consequence to me and I will not waste time trying to engage some keyboard cowboy who finds aggressive posturing to be an acceptable substitute for dialog.

That said: You explained the concept of white privilege in the post above: Maybe he interviews Derek because he ASSUMES Thuc may not speak English as well. White privilege. The assumption that because someone is white they may have certain skills or social experience that the nonwhite doesn't. It is an assumption of aptitude in specific areas that may or may not be true but is accepted as truth based on the perceived ethnicity of the subject and all the social experience that whites are assumed to have had.

That is one example of white privilege. And for the record, there is also minority privilege. There is no accusation or judgment behind the term white privilege.
 
You are making a somewhat circular argument

I say derek may be black, you say yeah but he thought he was white

I say maybe he doesnt want to take a chance that thuc may not speak english, you say thats white privilege.

Its not, in that case it is american privilege or english speaking privilege. If her name was brittany chen, there would be no assumption of english speaking ability

You continue to move the goal post, and as i said, it's clear through data that more thucs are being interviewed than dereks.
 
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